Class B - Driving - Theory Test

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Hi all, 

 

I tried for the 2nd time to pass the theory test but failed - 6 questions out of 30 wrong. I wonder how to pass the test. 

 

Getting really tired of re-appearing.

 

Any tips?

 

Im using the fahrschule card app only. There is no help from the driving school as they only speak german and me only english. And i cannot wait till i learn fluent german. 

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I learned in English and took mine in English (in Hamburg). I bought the web practice test here: https://www.click-learn.de/. Their app are only in German so i practiced through my browser. Passed the first time. It's completely worth the money.

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I remember you asked here about the English speaking driving schools, why did you then choose an only German speaking Fahrschule?

 

And in the theory test, 30 of the nearly 1100 questions in the app are asked. Exactly the same questions, so you just have to practice everyday and memorize all of Them.

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17 hours ago, tfernandes said:

Hi all, 

 

I tried for the 2nd time to pass the theory test but failed - 6 questions out of 30 wrong. I wonder how to pass the test. 

 

Getting really tired of re-appearing.

 

Any tips?

 

Im using the fahrschule card app only. There is no help from the driving school as they only speak german and me only english. And i cannot wait till i learn fluent german. 

 

I know its very difficult to keep on studying and failing in the end. My situation was similar like yours. My driving school people will speak only deutsch (not even a single english word) and I know only english. I never understood the theory classes. I was going in theory class to give attendance and sit there idle for an hour :(

 

I wrote theory exam twice, first time failed with 13 points and second time passed.

 

First time I concentrated more on doing exams. Even though I had 100% progress in the app, I failed in exam. 

 

For the second try, instead of doing exams, first I went through all the 12 lessons in the eBook (available in fahrschulcard app) and other sub lessons, completed all the question list, category list and lesson list. I took screen shots of all wrongly answered questions and revised the screenshots.

 

After learning the formula (stopping distance, braking distance, reaction distance), I passed all the questions with numberquestions.

 

I studied all the road signs from http://www.gettingaroundgermany.info/zeichen.shtml (even though many are irrelevant and unavailable in the app)

 

I byhearted few questions and when I read those questions only half, I was able to tell the answers...

 

Practise practise practise...You can do it...

 

All the best.

 

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I am also planning to take the theory test in English. Are there too many differences between the questions in the app and the one in the exams? I thought once one master the app questions, it's almost certain that one will pass because questions are repeated

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10 hours ago, lonedev said:

Are there too many differences between the questions in the app and the one in the exams? I thought once one master the app questions, it's almost certain that one will pass because questions are repeated

 

You know it right. Once you mastered the app questions, passing is guaranteed. Questions are exactly the same.

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12 hours ago, lonedev said:

I am also planning to take the theory test in English. Are there too many differences between the questions in the app and the one in the exams? I thought once one master the app questions, it's almost certain that one will pass because questions are repeated

Questions will be the same..

 

I have seen  many questions in fahrschulcard app being asked in the exam, but some difference in translation which makes the question look different.

 

Once you have learned the question properly, translation would not be a big deal...

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On 7/31/2018, 10:13:10, Saritha said:

 

I know its very difficult to keep on studying and failing in the end. My situation was similar like yours. My driving school people will speak only deutsch (not even a single english word) and I know only english. I never understood the theory classes. I was going in theory class to give attendance and sit there idle for an hour :(

 

I wrote theory exam twice, first time failed with 13 points and second time passed.

 

First time I concentrated more on doing exams. Even though I had 100% progress in the app, I failed in exam. 

 

For the second try, instead of doing exams, first I went through all the 12 lessons in the eBook (available in fahrschulcard app) and other sub lessons, completed all the question list, category list and lesson list. I took screen shots of all wrongly answered questions and revised the screenshots.

 

After learning the formula (stopping distance, braking distance, reaction distance), I passed all the questions with numberquestions.

 

I studied all the road signs from http://www.gettingaroundgermany.info/zeichen.shtml (even though many are irrelevant and unavailable in the app)

 

I byhearted few questions and when I read those questions only half, I was able to tell the answers...

 

Practise practise practise...You can do it...

 

All the best.

 

Hi Saritha - Thanks for your inputs. Its a big pain that they have such kind of negative marking. I'll be trying the third time hope i pass. Still the farschule app is not easy to crack.

 

Could you share with me the stopping distance formula (Mathematics part) if you have it on paper / online.

 

 

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36 minutes ago, tfernandes said:

Could you share with me the stopping distance formula (Mathematics part) if you have it on paper / online.

 

You can find the mathematical formula(s - there are more than one!) in the section Faustformeln für Autos of the German Wikipedia article on Bremsweg or on this page from the ADAC: Berechnung des Anhaltewegs

 

Good luck with your intensive programm of re-education - it took me several weeks practise back in the UK to eliminate some bad habits acquired after driving for a couple of years in the UAE.

 

2B

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11 hours ago, 2B_orNot2B said:

 

You can find the mathematical formula(s - there are more than one!) in the section Faustformeln für Autos of the German Wikipedia article on Bremsweg or on this page from the ADAC: Berechnung des Anhaltewegs

 

Good luck with your intensive programm of re-education - it took me several weeks practise back in the UK to eliminate some bad habits acquired after driving for a couple of years in the UAE.

 

2B

 

Given the example on the Wikipedia link, going at 50km/h one needs 27.5m to brake, but the safety distance is 25m. For 100km/h the required braking distance is 80m, safety distance 50m...what am I missing?

 

 

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1 hour ago, msam said:

Given the example on the Wikipedia link, going at 50km/h one needs 27.5m to brake, but the safety distance is 25m. For 100km/h the required braking distance is 80m, safety distance 50m...what am I missing?

 

Safety distance =|= braking distance!

 

However, given the cross-mixing of selected example results in your post I'd have to guess you'd missed out on some of the related linguistic nuances.;)

 

Rather than add to the further confusion by attempting to verbally analyse or explain your selections I'll go with the hope that maybe those who are seriously concerned about learning for their up-coming test can figure out those nuances with the help of the notes on this screenshot.

 

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It is assumed that when obeying the safety distance rule of thumb an alert driver of a modern car with ABS should be able to avoid colliding with another vehicle travelling in forward line of sight in the same direction.

 

Different rules of thumb apply when driving heavy vehicles.

 

HTH ;)

 

2B

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1 hour ago, msam said:

 

Given the example on the Wikipedia link, going at 50km/h one needs 27.5m to brake, but the safety distance is 25m. For 100km/h the required braking distance is 80m, safety distance 50m...what am I missing?

 

 

I couldn't find anything wrong in your calculation, if you have done calculations for emergency braking.

 

Safety distance: 1/2 of speedometer reading
Reaction distance : (Speed / 10) * 3
Standard Braking Distance: (Speed / 10) * (Speed / 10)
Evasive (Emergency) Braking Distance: ((Speed / 10) * (Speed / 10)) / 2

 

Stopping distance = Braking distance + Reaction Distance

 

 

50 km/h:
safety distance = 50 / 2 = 25
Reaction distance = (50 / 10)*3 = 15
Braking distance = (50 / 10) * (50 / 10) = 25
emergency braking = ((50 / 10) * (50 / 10)) / 2 = 25 / 2 = 12.5


Stopping distance = 25 + 15 = 40 (or) 12.5 + 15 = 27.5

 

100 km/h:
safety distance = 100 / 2 = 50
Reaction distance = (100 / 10)*3 = 30
Braking distance = (100 / 10) * (100 / 10) = 100
emergency braking = ((100 / 10) * (100 / 10)) / 2 = 100 / 2 = 50


Stopping distance = 100 + 30 = 130 (or) 50 + 30 = 80

 

When increase the speed from 50 km/h to 100 km/h Standard braking distance is quadrupled from 25 m to 100 m (100 / 10) * (100 / 10) = 100 m
 

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For those trying to learn or understand the formulas for the test: ignore my post, 2B_orNot2B explained it very well.

 

That said:

 

1 hour ago, 2B_orNot2B said:

 

Safety distance =|= braking distance!

 

However, given the cross-mixing of selected example results in your post I'd have to guess you'd missed out on some of the related linguistic nuances.;)

 

 

What cross-mixing? I referred to the Sicherheitsabstand (how much distance you should keep from the next car) as safety distance and the Gefahrbremsung (how much distance you will travel before stopping when you brake hard) as braking distance. The 27.5m and 25m are directly taken from the Wikipedia example. The 100km/h values are calculated using the same formulas. In essence: if you keep the safety distance, you will not be able to stop in time if the car in front of you comes to a sudden stop. 

 

I understand that if the car in front of you brakes, it will still be traveling forward while it's braking. So that might explain the difference. But if the car in front of you crashes without attempting to brake, there's a good chance you'll plough straight into it.

 

Note that I'm not doubting the equations. I'm more concerned as to why the Sicherheitsabstand is so low

 

 

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23 minutes ago, msam said:

What cross-mixing?

 

Sorry, poor choice of wording on my part. :(

 

I did not realize (until your last post) that you had actually indented to select the Emergency braking distance (Gefahrenbremsweg).

 

27 minutes ago, msam said:

2B_orNot2B explained it very well

 

Thanks, but I think @Saritha actually did a much better job of explaining it than me.

 

30 minutes ago, msam said:

I understand that if the car in front of you brakes, it will still be traveling forward while it's braking. So that might explain the difference.

 

AFAIR this is the consensus of most arguments brought to the table by German road safety experts who are routinely consulted as participants in ministerial-level forward traffic planning.

 

35 minutes ago, msam said:

But if the car in front of you crashes without attempting to brake, there's a good chance you'll plough straight into it.

 

Don't know if you've seen the videos of an unbraked LPG tanker hitting the tailend of a standing lane of trucks in Bologna, catching fire and exploding in this weeks horror example (which resulted interalia in the destruction of an elevated section of a multi-lane inner city highway), but I agree that under those circumstances the chances of serious consequences are fairly high.

 

45 minutes ago, msam said:

Note that I'm not doubting the equations. I'm more concerned as to why the Sicherheitsabstand is so low

 

In my inexpert opinion, speaking as a former motor mechanic, vehicle parts specialist, licensed hackney cab operator and long-distance truck driver (mostly in Germany but also in UK,10 other EU and 2 North African countries) I suspect it boils down to a pragmatic attempt  to match a half-hearted or semi-sincere intent of protecting the innocent with the unattractive prospect of educating the selfish mass of idiots.

 

From my observation on any given random day about 40 - 60% of heavy truck drivers on German autobahns would routinely risk cutting their mandatory safety distances by 40 - 80%.

 

For long-distance bus, car and light truck drivers my observation suggested numbers up to 70 - 85% seemed oblivious to the risk of reducing their safety distances by as much as 75 - 90%.

 

It would seem likely that those members of government who are in the position to mandate changes in such vital public safety measures are either too deeply involved with the 'shareholder value interests' of the automotive and logistic industries and their lobbyists or are more interested in continuing their own political careers than they are in actually acting on behalf of their constituents long-term interests.

 

Lack of moral fortitude - backbone - guts - ethical principles.

Whatever its name or purported motivation, we all must pay the price multiple times and ways

for electing and tolerating the inefficient, inept and vastly overpaid human effluent scum which floats to the top of most governments.

 

Cynically yours,

 

2B

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On July 30, 2018 at 10:33:56 AM, tfernandes said:

Hi all, 

 

I tried for the 2nd time to pass the theory test but failed - 6 questions out of 30 wrong. I wonder how to pass the test. 

 

Getting really tired of re-appearing.

 

Any tips?

 

Im using the fahrschule card app only. There is no help from the driving school as they only speak german and me only english. And i cannot wait till i learn fluent german. 

Aren't you the guy who imported a humungous Mitsubishi / Hummer with flashing lights from ? Dubai?   Then please stop driving - failed twice and very poor German !

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