14-yr-old girl murdered by refugee in Wiesbaden

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Fingers crossed it isn't her!

Such an awful situation for the parents to have to go through.

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1 hour ago, robinson100 said:

Fingers crossed it isn't her!

Such an awful situation for the parents to have to go through.

But it's still a female body. So fingers crossing is not really doing any good.

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http://www.wiesbadener-kurier.de/lokales/polizei/vermisste-susanna-f-ist-tot-leiche-der-14-jaehrigen-aus-mainz-in-wiesbaden-gefunden_18822238.htm

 

So, sadly the body was that of the 14yr old...

 

Its been also rumoured/Reported that one of the Iraqi friends that she used to hand around will ( Assylum seeker) has volutarily flown back to Iraq.

No coincidence there then eh?

 

It is too close to home for my liking!

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There was apparently another offender also with a simillar religious background.

 

And of the exactly the same gender, of course.

 

Few states protect girls and women enough from violent men.  This man (noticable how these reports always hide behind gender neutral terms like "offender" while making sure to highlight other "similarities") had a reported history of violence against females.  No surprise, men who murder women and girls usually have previous history like that.   A man's right to his freedom clearly trumped the wellbeing of teenage girls.   In almost all such cases, there's a man whose poor behaviour to females has been excused or rationalised away.  And so again here.

 

And, if you are a man who fancies murdering a girl here, the authorities will seemingly even let you run away.   The German authorities really do need to account to us for that. 

 

Damn right, that stinks.  Institutionalised misogyny.    This is exactly what recent women's movements such as #MeToo are about.  There but for the grace of god go many of us, insufficiently protected.   This needs to change.

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I'll offer to start the fund required to send SP over and settle the matter.

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How can it be stopped?

They are here now...    

The Current Perps in Wiesbaden have been arrested for possesion of a gun.. Agrivated assault, and assault on a minor... Now Murder!

 

 

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well this is just another small "einzelfall" (single case) of the  "refugees" politics.

i just find curious that his case is so much in the media. 

 

in the police feed of different cities  ( it is possible to go to the police page, and check the feeds)

is normal to see cases of rapes similar to these ones, (rape by refugees)

 

but they dont appear in the news or appear just in the local news. 

 

although this one is also a murdered. so maybe that is an extra reason, (although i think i also saw cases where the girl was also murdered or left to die)

or is also because she was jew? maybe she is someone known? 

 

btw, i think the family will eventually come back or some of them. it already happen before some of them come back sometimes, even several times, with different identities.

 

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what about a title correction, to be more precise? she is not missing. she was found raped and dead  ;)

( the refugee part can be left out as  that would be PC incorrect .and would get the attention of the Toytown police...sigh...sigh...) 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, robinson100 said:

 

- according to the news yesterday, the whole family has left.

I find it amazing that a whole family of asylum seekers can find the funds to all jump on a plane at short notice like that!

 

It costs about 10k to get to Germany via the people smuggling route.

 

To even think that the mass migration have no cash is just plain stupid.

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2 hours ago, bramble said:

An older man and some of the murderer's former fellow schoolmates say that the Koran forbids murder, but when a woman leaves her husband/fiance or leaves home, the Koran says she has to be killed.

 

 

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"Whoever kills a believer intentionally, their reward will be Hell, to abide therein forever, and the wrath and the curse of Allah are upon them, and a dreadful penalty is prepared for them." (Holy Quran, Chapter 4, Verse 93)

"On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone kills a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if they killed all people. And if any one saved a life, it would be as if they saved the life of all people." (Holy Quran, Chapter 5, Verse 32)

The practice of so-called "honour killing" is in reality an act of murder. It is usually carried out against a female family member who is seen by relatives as dishonoring their family through real or perceived acts of indiscretion, such as premarital sexual relations or unapproved dating. In many cases of "honour killing", the accused woman is innocent, and is killed purely based on suspicion. In other cases, the issue of "honour" is used as a cover to justify a murder that was really committed for other purposes. No matter what the reason is, "honour killing" is a despicable crime.

There is absolutely no justification in Islam for "honour killing" of women or men. Those who commit these crimes can expect hellfire as their punishment, in addition to the wrath and anger of God, as the previous verse from the holy Quran describes. These types of killings are quite simply murder crimes, and should be prosecuted as such. No society, Muslim or otherwise, should tolerate such extrajudicial murder. This is especially true if these murders are carried out in the name of Islam or any other religion. There is no justification or leniency in Islamic teachings for such murder crimes. Those who commit these crimes are either ignorant of Islamic teachings, or they try to invoke religion to get lenient treatment. In both cases, they must be punished as murderers in order to establish justice and in order to act as a deterrent to those who would consider committing such crimes.

There is no historical background in Islam for "honour killing". No verse in the holy Quran and no saying of Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) sanctions such crimes. There were no cases of "honour killing" during the early period of Islam. This is a concept that seems to have appeared only recently, and is based only upon ignorance of the true teachings of Islam, and perhaps some ancient customs that pre-date Islam.

 

 

 

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@ bramble. I think the Swedes in particular would be sympathetic to that comment. We have been stupidly and blindly naive.

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Unfortunately the past tense is inappropriate. This behaviour is still very much alive and well.

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1 hour ago, fraufruit said:

 

 

 

 

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Tell that to the Muslims interviewed in the documentary, who explicitly mention the Koran. Even if they should be wrong concerning the Koran, their culture certainly allows honour killings of women AND they seem to think the Koran justifies it. 

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The first quote (Surah 4 Verse 93) cited by fraufruit specifically cites only Muslim murder victims (use of the world "believer". Plus what is meant by "mischief" in Surah 5 Verse 32? A lot of things could fall under that.

 

 

 

 

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