How long ZAB will give the ‘Statement of Comparability’ ? Is there anyway to check the application status?

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Is there anyone out there been through ZAB process? I received email from them saying they received the fees and will send me receipt and the statement. It’s been 3weeks now and I didn’t hear anything yet from them. My job is waiting for their statement since ZAV only granted my pre approval letter if ZAB give out my statement Comparability for foreign high education. Is there anyway to check my application status? How hard is to get that statement? 

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26 minutes ago, Ella Elle said:

Is there anyone out there been through ZAB process? I received email from them saying they received the fees and will send me receipt and the statement. It’s been 3weeks now and I didn’t hear anything yet from them. 

 

Their website/FAQ says:

 

"How long does it take to issue a Statement of Comparability?

 

You will receive the Statement of Comparability three months after we received all the documents needed and after you have paid the fee."

 

https://www.kmk.org/zab/central-office-for-foreign-education/statement-of-comparability-for-foreign-higher-education-qualifications/faq-statement-of-comparability.html

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Is there any way for me to speed up the process? Job not gonna wait for me and I’m aware about the website just thinking if there’s any possibility to get the process done faster than 3 months 

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4 minutes ago, Ella Elle said:

Is there any way for me to speed up the process? Job not gonna wait for me and I’m aware about the website just thinking if there’s any possibility to get the process done faster than 3 months 

 

If you are aware of the website then you know that they also give contact information – e-mail addresses, telephone numbers and times. Write them or call them and ask. Although I doubt that will speed up anything, they are processing 46.000 applications per year ... 

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On 5/9/2018, 2:46:46, someonesdaughter said:

 

If you are aware of the website then you know that they also give contact information – e-mail addresses, telephone numbers and times. Write them or call them and ask. Although I doubt that will speed up anything, they are processing 46.000 applications per year ... 

Yes and I did call and also email. No clear information about when they will give out the statement. That’s the reason I ask if anyone ever facing the same thing, since I need to know also I can estimate when I need to pay for house deposit and etc. It’s sound like a small stuff but if someone come from outside Germany, we have loads things to do especially housing. At least if they can give estimate time since they already have my application it can help people like me to get other things done. 

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On 8.5.2018, 20:37:25, Ella Elle said:

Is there any way for me to speed up the process? Job not gonna wait for me and I’m aware about the website just thinking if there’s any possibility to get the process done faster than 3 months 

 

How much will you be earning? If you will earn enough for a Blue Card you should submit your job offer to the ZAB and they will give your application priority (usually within 2 weeks).

 

 

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Mine took almost five months! Luckily my employer never asked for it, I just ordered it pre-emptively. They always answered my email questions quickly, though. zabservice@kmk.org

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On 5/14/2018, 9:08:52, engelchen said:

 

How much will you be earning? If you will earn enough for a Blue Card you should submit your job offer to the ZAB and they will give your application priority (usually within 2 weeks).

 

 

I’m not earning enough for EU blue card. I did email them and attached my work contract since I need to start working soon. Until now no answer from them.

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1 hour ago, AlexCLE said:

Mine took almost five months! Luckily my employer never asked for it, I just ordered it pre-emptively. They always answered my email questions quickly, though. zabservice@kmk.org

I did email using that email but no one reply me. If 5 months, I don’t think my job can wait that long tho.

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On 8.5.2018, 18:52:32, Ella Elle said:

 It’s been 3weeks now and I didn’t hear anything yet from them.

 

3 weeks is not long at all.

 

1 hour ago, Ella Elle said:

I’m not earning enough for EU blue card. I did email them and attached my work contract since I need to start working soon. Until now no answer from them.

 

If you don't earn enough for a Blue Card, you need to be patient. Applications made by foreigners who qualify for a Blue Card (and have submitted a copy of the job offer) are given priority and all others are processed in the order in which they were received.

 

Stop pestering the ZAB and let them do their job. They will contact you if they require further information.

 

BTW, this is the reason that I recommend that foreigners submit their degrees to the ZAB at the beginning of their job search.

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3 hours ago, engelchen said:

 

3 weeks is not long at all.

 

 

If you don't earn enough for a Blue Card, you need to be patient. Applications made by foreigners who qualify for a Blue Card (and have submitted a copy of the job offer) are given priority and all others are processed in the order in which they were received.

 

Stop pestering the ZAB and let them do their job. They will contact you if they require further information.

 

BTW, this is the reason that I recommend that foreigners submit their degrees to the ZAB at the beginning of their job search.

If I know that I required to do all this process I definitely will do it before anything else. I search for information but I did not get any information that could help me with this issue. I did email the welcome center and based on their email I actually didn’t require any of that since my qualification is valid to use in Germany. As per ZAV they just ask my employer to do it even after we both forward this email to them. You can refer to this -> 

 

General Information:

 

First, you must know: Your studied profession/degree with regard to working in a private Kindergarten as a Betreuerin is a so-called non-regulated profession/field in Germany. There is no recognition procedure available for these degree/field on an academic level. Legally, your degree is valid in Germany. However, you need a working permit (= Arbeitserlaubnis) from the Ausländerbehörde or the German Embassy in the Malaysia in order to travel to and to work in Germany. Furthermore, several requirements of the ZAV have to be fulfilled by your employer.

 

 From my personal opinion, they should provide more information and more online sources for people like me who actually have no idea how to apply and etc. I’m not pestering ZAB but I’m seeking for information and asking if there’s anyone that experience same situation and is there any way to check the application or any chances to speed it up. I know they doing their job, no offense maybe it’s easy for you to say since you know how it works but not for me or maybe people out there who facing same issue. I believe the reason we have this forum is for people to seek information. 

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One thing you'll learn is to get help you need to know what you don't know... if you know what I mean. People are generally helpful when you ask them something but my experience has been that they won't go out of their way to make sure you have all the information you may not have thought of to ask. Explain the situation to your new employer and ask them to make an exception and put you in a trial period until the ZAB results show up. They should do this if you really have the skill set they're looking for.

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15 hours ago, AlexCLE said:

Explain the situation to your new employer and ask them to make an exception and put you in a trial period until the ZAB results show up.

 

How is she supposed to start working without a work permit?

 

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 From my personal opinion, they should provide more information and more online sources for people like me who actually have no idea how to apply and etc.

 

Unfortunately, the info provided is much too general and written by Germans who don't understand the whole picture.

 

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I’m not pestering ZAB but I’m seeking for information and asking if there’s anyone that experience same situation and is there any way to check the application or any chances to speed it up. I know they doing their job, no offense maybe it’s easy for you to say since you know how it works but not for me or maybe people out there who facing same issue. I believe the reason we have this forum is for people to seek information. 

 

I know you don't want to hear this, but you are pestering them. Since you will not earn enough for a Blue Card, there is no reason to process your application earlier. You have to wait your turn like everyone else. If you haven’t heard anything 3 months after you applied, you can contact them to ask for an update.

 

 

Although I have never worked for the ZAB, I have evaluated foreign degrees. Some degrees are more complicated to evaluate than others and it is impossible to know everything about all the different foreign degrees, therefore, different employees usually specialise in different countries. Considering the number of applications that the ZAB receives, it is impossible for them to tell you in advance how long it’ll take. The ZAB will process all applications in the order in which they were received (with the exception of applications from those who will earn enough for a Blue Card).

 

 

You can also find all this info on the ZAB website:

 

 

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How long does it take to issue a Statement of Comparability?

You will receive the Statement of Comparability three months after we received all the documents needed and after you have paid the fee.

Why might the time needed to process the documents differ from country to country?

Every year 110 specialists of the ZAB (Central Office for Foreign Education) answer 27.000 official requests concerning international qualifications, they issue 21.500 Statements of Comparability and answer 32.000 enquiries made by telephone. They also maintain and update the database "anabin".

Applicants come from over 100 countries. Changes in world politics might cause a sudden increase in questions concerning certain countries. Since our specialists need specific language skills and knowledge about the educational system of the relevant countries, it is not possible to simply distribute the reqests to other specialists.

 

https://www.kmk.org/zab/central-office-for-foreign-education/statement-of-comparability-for-foreign-higher-education-qualifications/faq-statement-of-comparability.html

 

18 hours ago, Ella Elle said:

Your studied profession/degree with regard to working in a private Kindergarten as a Betreuerin is a so-called non-regulated profession/field in Germany. There is no recognition procedure available for these degree/field on an academic level. Legally, your degree is valid in Germany. However, you need a working permit (= Arbeitserlaubnis) from the Ausländerbehörde or the German Embassy in the Malaysia in order to travel to and to work in Germany.

 

BTW, although the info you received is technically correct, you should note that a "Betreuerin" is not a real "profession" in Germany. In Germany "Erzieher" are regulated and you should look into getting your qualifications recognised as either an Erzieher or teacher (depending on your exact qualifications).

 

 

We have discussed this before. See this thread for more info:

 

https://www.toytowngermany.com/forum/topic/274108-qualified-teacher-job-application-proccess/

 

 

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On 5/18/2018, 6:24:27, engelchen said:

 

How is she supposed to start working without a work permit?

 

 

Unfortunately, the info provided is much too general and written by Germans who don't understand the whole picture.

 

 

I know you don't want to hear this, but you are pestering them. Since you will not earn enough for a Blue Card, there is no reason to process your application earlier. You have to wait your turn like everyone else. If you haven’t heard anything 3 months after you applied, you can contact them to ask for an update.

 

 

Although I have never worked for the ZAB, I have evaluated foreign degrees. Some degrees are more complicated to evaluate than others and it is impossible to know everything about all the different foreign degrees, therefore, different employees usually specialise in different countries. Considering the number of applications that the ZAB receives, it is impossible for them to tell you in advance how long it’ll take. The ZAB will process all applications in the order in which they were received (with the exception of applications from those who will earn enough for a Blue Card).

 

 

You can also find all this info on the ZAB website:

 

 

 

https://www.kmk.org/zab/central-office-for-foreign-education/statement-of-comparability-for-foreign-higher-education-qualifications/faq-statement-of-comparability.html

 

 

BTW, although the info you received is technically correct, you should note that a "Betreuerin" is not a real "profession" in Germany. In Germany "Erzieher" are regulated and you should look into getting your qualifications recognised as either an Erzieher or teacher (depending on your exact qualifications).

 

 

We have discussed this before. See this thread for more info:

 

https://www.toytowngermany.com/forum/topic/274108-qualified-teacher-job-application-proccess/

 

 

I finally get in touch with the person who handle my case and they said they only going to review mine on  July 18. I let them know that I supposed to work soon and they asked me to get an email from my boss saying that I need to start working soon (with date). Hopefully I’ll get mine soon. Finger crossed 🤞🏻! Thank you for all information!!!! 

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