Syrian refugee convicted in Germany for defrauding Islamic State

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A Syrian refugee contacted someone from IS and requested 180 000 euro for making a bomb attack in Germany. Yet his IS guy was dead while the account was in control of some Syrian rebel. That rebel reported the refugee to German authorities.

 

He explained (or, rather, his smart ass lawyer) that he didn't want to do any attack. He planned to defraud the IS and keep the money for himself.

 

Court in Saarbrücken convicted him for fraud, 2 years in prison. Federal Court confirmed the verdict. You do not defraud anyone in Germany. Not even terrorists.

https://justillon.de/2018/04/versuchter-betrug-nachteil-is/

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An illustration of good job German intelligence BND does in Syria. Risking their lives.

 

A job which nobody will appreciate.

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More importantly, I'd like to know whether the guy will be deported after he has served his sentence.

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That depends whether there will be a country with more or less stable government in Syria. Otherwise there will be Abschiebestopp and Duldung status.

 

That, in turn, depends on Assad being removed from power, peacefully or by force. There is left right consensus supporting Assad in Germany. The longer this Assad support/tolerance lasts, the fewer chances there are on any government at all = more refugees, no way to return criminal refugees.

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Shame they didn't let him carry on with it and then confiscate the cash.

 

We could set up a government department to do this kind of thing.

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52 minutes ago, cb6dba said:

Shame they didn't let him carry on with it and then confiscate the cash.

 

We could set up a government department to do this kind of thing.

That is dangerous. Sure, it is better to be convicted for fraud than terrorism, but no one knows what he was really up to.

 

The first failure with "let's continue observation to catch a bigger fish" was with NSU: they were able to continue with killings despite being observed by Verfassungsschutz for a long time.

 

The second such failure was with Anis Amri, the Berlin Christmas market attacker.

 

There will be no third failure: the tactics of German secret services has changed to "arrest ASAP".

 

P.S. Such government department exists. It's called Finanzamt NRW, the ones who buy CDs from Swiss bank employees. They are very good.

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4 hours ago, engelchen said:

More importantly, I'd like to know whether the guy will be deported after he has served his sentence.

 

Just wondering who the lawyer is..can he/she sleep at night? Dummies like me and most of you pay taxes and that Syrian guy got a lawyer at our expense, right?

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57 minutes ago, john g. said:

Just wondering who the lawyer is..can he/she sleep at night?

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Are you suggesting to cancel the rule of law? Very dangerous post of yours, John.

 

All persons suspected of crime have a right for a lawyer. That makes a difference between a civilized country and a barbaric regime.

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Ah, no worries, yourkeau...I´m definitely in favour of the rule of law. I´m equally in favour of being democratically allowed to bitch about morons exploiting the system! And I´m glad the bugger lost out!

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On 13/04/2018, 09:35:34, optimista said:

That's one way to get free board and lodge for a while.

That they get automatically by saying the magic word Syrian asyl! Last month the police caught a Syrian man who was claiming state support from 16 different places in Germany and had sub let his accommodation to various people! Now reports are in that the economic fraud is over 350 million euros yearly! 

 

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On 13/04/2018, 17:27:06, yourkeau said:

That depends whether there will be a country with more or less stable government in Syria. Otherwise there will be Abschiebestopp and Duldung status.

 

That, in turn, depends on Assad being removed from power, peacefully or by force. There is left right consensus supporting Assad in Germany. The longer this Assad support/tolerance lasts, the fewer chances there are on any government at all = more refugees, no way to return criminal refugees.

It takes an average of 10 years to deport someone in Germany. Six months back convicted 6 afghani paedophiles were deported but before their plane touched down in Kabul they were recalled as the state justice ruled that it is unconstitutional to deport them to a country where their life is at risk. Now all are roaming free with state sponsored counselling! 

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Naive society around these days in Europe, Sauvage. It makes life tougher for genuine and respectful refugees and gives support to Far Right groups. 

I am; however, skeptical why you are posting here right now..newbie, German..politically motivated?

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11 minutes ago, Sauvage said:

It takes an average of 10 years to deport someone in Germany. Six months back convicted 6 afghani paedophiles were deported but before their plane touched down in Kabul they were recalled as the state justice ruled that it is unconstitutional to deport them to a country where their life is at risk. Now all are roaming free with state sponsored counselling! 

You joined on 28th March, and we are discussing this crap for 4 years already. The same crap, over and over again. Please, stop. This is a thread about Syrian convicted for fraud while allegedly planning a terror attack.

 

Use the search function or create own thread.

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51 minutes ago, Sauvage said:

It takes an average of 10 years to deport someone in Germany. Six months back convicted 6 afghani paedophiles were deported but before their plane touched down in Kabul they were recalled as the state justice ruled that it is unconstitutional to deport them to a country where their life is at risk. Now all are roaming free with state sponsored counselling! 

I don’t understand this. The state justice protected the paedophiles’ lives at the cost of children in Germany? What’s going on in their twisted minds??

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50 minutes ago, Sauvage said:

That they get automatically by saying the magic word Syrian asyl! Last month the police caught a Syrian man who was claiming state support from 16 different places in Germany and had sub let his accommodation to various people! Now reports are in that the economic fraud is over 350 million euros yearly! 

 

If the system allows that, it's getting what it deserves.  However, I find that story a bit hard to believe.  Asylum seekers are fingerprinted in most cases these days and their fingerprints are run through an EU database to find out if they've been registered somewhere else.  I know a guy who asked for asylum in Germany after having done so in the Netherlands and it took the system about 3 months to find out.  As for renting out asylum seekers accommodation, they are not giving them apartments.  They are getting shared rooms with 2-3 other guys and sharing a toilet and kitchen with much more ppl.  Who wants to rent that?

 

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16 minutes ago, desdemona said:

I don’t understand this. The state justice protected the paedophiles’ lives at the cost of children in Germany? What’s going on in their twisted minds??

Bavaria is going to adopt a new police law which allows imprisonment of "dangerous persons" without them committing any crime. In addition Germany has so called "Sicherungsverwahrung": imprisonment of persons who did commit crime, their prison sentence ended, but letting them out is deemed dangerous.

 

Were this Syrian caught in Bavaria, it would have been a long long prison sentence for him.

 

And now someone registered a month ago pops up and tells fake news that a dangerous person can walk free in Germany.

 

Such people has only one goal: to prove that democracy is incapable of safeguarding the people, and that Germany needs a strong Führer for that. Apparently there is no crime in totalitarian surveillance state because all criminals have a job at SS or Gestapo, so legally not criminals.

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