Calls from Strange Numbers - Telephone Scams

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Hmm, and for those that dont have a number transmitted at all, I get anon y mouse shown in the display...

 

oops, wrong spelling there anony - oh sh*t I cant be bothered to look it up on leo.org...

 

Stephen

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I have been having these calls and they hang up after a couple of rings. Because I've got a UK SIM, does that mean I am paying for all these rogue calls myself?

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If you don't pick up the phone, you will not be paying.

 

If someone is trying to call you, he will notice a different rinning tone, and that is maybe why the caller is hanging up after ringing a few times. ( its called roaming )

 

Stephen

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Just be careful that you're mailbox is not switched on!

 

Had a very expensive experience with that. I was over here on business for a few weeks and wasn't able to answer my mobile. People would call and they would just get to the first few seconds of my mailbox and then hangup. I would get no message but because they connected to my mailbox I was getting charged. It was about 90p at the time, had a bill for over £40 just for missed calls :(

 

And that reminds me of another story! Back a few years ago there was no SMS agreement between the international operators, only call agreements. So when I was in Germany I could send SMS for the same price as at home. While I was here for a few months on business the SMS agreement came in but it was not made public!! I was looking at my monthly bill on line and noticed that I was getting charged almost double the price for SMS. So I sent a mail to my operator asking what the hell was happening! They then ring me on my mobile and explain the whole thing and tell me they will refund me the difference for all SMS up until then, which was fair enough! But the price of their call to me was more than the refund :angry: Never got it refunded!

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The thing is, that cold calling is against the law in Germany for German companies, but if they are owned by companies in other countries (daughter company etc), then these can ring you, and what's more it's hard to trace. This is why you get all this c##p.

 

Just felt I needed to explain that little gem of modern capitalism. I hate all those b#####ds! :o

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We get two or three of those automated phone calls a day. Sometimes they phone at 10 o'clock at night. Only problem is there is no number listed to phone and complain to. I was told never to start pressing the numbers to either talk to the customer service or to enquire further as it costs you even more then.

I often have Newspaper companies and catalogs phone me and ask if I want a subscription too.

 

Recently we have been targeted by the Jehovas except they come to the door. I pretended I knew no German so they started sending English speaking ones round. Watchtower magazine anyone??

 

The Jahovah's witnesses annoy the hell out of me and I have an irregular schedule, so they disturb me when I'm at home to the point now that I don't even answer the door. It got even creepier when one was actually in my building and I almost called the police, but knew they don't respond anyhow.

 

 

That is very odd that you get cold calls because they are strictly forbidden in Germany. A company may only call you if you have had dealings with them in the past, or if you have signed up for something and agreed to let them call you (sometimes you have to check a box NOT to be called).

 

I haven't gotten a single one in 3.5 years in Germany.

 

In the US I used to get about 10 per night. A computer would call at around 6:30, and then hang up when you answer, recording the fac that you're home. You would then be in for a night of the phone ringing off the hook. When I visit my father he simply won't touch the phone between 6:00 and 9:00 pm.

 

They might be forbidden in Germany, but these companies know that it takes way too much effort to do anything about such things, on top of any consumer action requiring a lawyer and out of pocket+time people don't have.

 

 

The thing is, that cold calling is against the law in Germany for German companies, but if they are owned by companies in other countries (daughter company etc), then these can ring you, and what's more it's hard to trace. This is why you get all this c##p.

 

Just felt I needed to explain that little gem of modern capitalism. I hate all those b#####ds!

 

You might have capitalism confused with German socialism. Why do you think people don't have time to complain? Because they are working ridiculous hours on salary to afford such things as living. That's why physicians here make the equivalent of about €7-9 per hour.

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Those are old posts. For what it's worth cold-callers must now send their number via Caller-ID and most do.

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The fines for anonymous cold calling are now very high (up to €50,000). It's pretty easy to report someone - lead the caller along to find out who or where they are (if they are selling you something there comes a point where they have to tell you who they are or what the product is) then complete and return this form. If you are getting regular anonymous calls and can't identify the caller then your phone provider can enable a service called "Fangschaltung" (MCID) - when you get the call you simply hit a telephone key which reports the caller number back to the phone company (even if there was no caller-ID on your display) and you subsequently receive a list of such calls to report them.

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There I go? I go no-where... like I said before, just string them along until they tell you who they are or what they selling...

Cold-calling to mobiles is most unusual and not common - it's too expensive for the caller.

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MCID seem to be possible with mobile providers, they are just not advertised. You should ask your provider about it. From what little information I found when briefly looking it up it seems to be a quite expensive service.

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I got one from Kenia last night at 3:37 a.m.

 

00254711******

 

Just got another call from this number no name, just a female voice saying "Can you call me, I'm in hospital"

 

In the mean time I have found out that 711 is a mobile phone

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our new phone enables us to block numbers.

google them first to check they are bogus though.

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I've googled this one and it is an Italian company conducting some survey, they've tried to reach us repeatedly over the last couple weeks and I answered this time and the lady's talking to me in German ("Möchten Sie die Italienische Küche?") and I says "Ich möchte Sie bitten, unsere Nummer aus Ihrem Verzeichnis zu löschen." Then she talks more and I ask "Haben Sie mich verstanden?" And she says "Nein, ich spreche kein Deutsch. Können Sie Italienisch sprechen?"

 

Frechheit.

 

Weirder stories of this number here:

 

00390109169783

 

And I'm googling our phone manual to see if our phone can block numbers too as per Moonboot's tip above...

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To Resurect this thread..

 

I Just received a call from 030206469611 claiming to be a new Cellphone/handy seller!

A Quick google search found this info...

 

 

Fore-warned is fore-armed

 

I mentioned to the caller that cold calling is forbidden... and any further calls would result in court action! She hung up!

 

SP

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I was wondering the other day if it would be legally binding if we could have a recorded message when anyone calls our number that says "if this is a unrequested business call, we have the right to charge 20,-€ per minute" for the phone call ;O) Afterall, it seems to be so easy for other electronic media to make "licensing agreements".

 

The catch would also be that you would need a phone that is capable of intercepting the phone call before the ring to place the message.

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