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Help with ESt 1C Tax form.

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You would have to provide more information about your circumstances for anyone to be able to assist. What income are you trying to declare?

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Hi!


Thanks for the replies. 
Not much, I expect a refund of like 300€. If someone can help me I would also pay something if necessary. 
I am not sure a Steuerberater would accept to help get a tax refund for an intern :/

Gledis

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4 minutes ago, PandaMunich said:

Tax forms for 2017: http://www.finanzamt.bayern.de/Informationen/Formulare/Steuererklaerung/Einkommensteuer/2017/

Follow the instructions in the yellow section of the TT Elster wiki: https://www.toytowngermany.com/wiki/ELSTER

Hi,

Thanks but I am aware of the form link. I need to complete ESt 1C. But I do not speak German and even if I did it would be difficult I think. 
Was hoping someone can help me complete those 4 pages?

Thanks

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Look at Panda's instructions for the TT Elster wiki. They are very helpful.

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On 3/6/2018, 11:43:21, PandaMunich said:

 

Let's think, if the 2017 tax forms can be found under this link: http://www.finanzamt.bayern.de/Informationen/Formulare/Steuererklaerung/Einkommensteuer/2017/

under which link could the 2010 forms be found?

 

Could it be http://www.finanzamt.bayern.de/Informationen/Formulare/Steuererklaerung/Einkommensteuer/2010/ ?

Lo and behold, that is really where they can be found.

 

And if you had read the TT Elster wiki, you would have learned that you do not need only the general information form, the Mantelbogen ESt1C, but also Anlage N and Anlage Vorsorgeaufwand.

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4 hours ago, PandaMunich said:

 

Let's think, if the 2017 tax forms can be found under this link: http://www.finanzamt.bayern.de/Informationen/Formulare/Steuererklaerung/Einkommensteuer/2017/

under which link could the 2010 forms be found?

 

Could it be http://www.finanzamt.bayern.de/Informationen/Formulare/Steuererklaerung/Einkommensteuer/2010/ ?

Lo and behold, that is really where they can be found.

 

And if you had read the TT Elster wiki, you would have learned that you do not need only the general information form, the Mantelbogen ESt1C, but also Anlage N and Anlage Vorsorgeaufwand.

Ok you are right. But it seemed chinese to me everything so I wasn't sure if even reading all of that it would have helped. 
Can you please confirm that as an intern for only 3months in 2017 in Germany,  I have to complete ESt 1 C, Anlage N and Anlage Vorsorgeaufwand and send it to the tax office in Frankfurt (where I live)?
For Anlage N and Anlage Vorsorgeaufwand I will follow the instructions in the wiki page.

For ESt 1 C I will use the link to the other topic. But it seems to me that ESt 1 C has a lot of things to leave empty? 

Thanks! 

 

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3 minutes ago, gledisk said:

Can you please confirm that as an intern for only 3months in 2017 in Germany,  I have to complete ESt 1 C, Anlage N and Anlage Vorsorgeaufwand and send it to the tax office in Frankfurt (where I live)?

 

Yes.

 

3 minutes ago, gledisk said:

But it seems to me that ESt 1 C has a lot of things to leave empty? 

 

Yes.

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2 hours ago, PandaMunich said:

 

Yes.

 

 

Yes.

Again me... Sorry but in my Lohnsteuerbescheinigung I have number 28 but I do not see where to put it in Anlage Vorsorgeaufwand? In the wiki it does not say anything about number 28. Otherwise I would have to send an empty Anlage Vorsorgeaufwand, just with my name...

Also for pages 2,3,4 I do not understand what should I put for ESt 1 C. Do you have some guidelines for the mandatory fields to complete? Comparing it with 2010 does not really help :/

Thanks! 

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Ignore the no. 28 field from the Lohnsteuerbescheinigung, it's irrelevant.

 

Sorry, but if you lack the ingenuity to compare the German phrases from the 2010 form with the same German phrases in the 2017 form, using GoogleTranslate for any remaining doubts, then you will just have to join a Lohnsteuerhilfeverein, and pay the around 55€ for them to do the tax return for you: https://www.steuerring.de/fileadmin/user_upload/Dokumente/downloads/steuerring_flyer_english.pdf

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10 minutes ago, PandaMunich said:

Ignore the no. 28 field from the Lohnsteuerbescheinigung, it's irrelevant.

 

Sorry, but if you lack the ingenuity to compare the German phrases from the 2010 form with the same German phrases in the 2017 form, using GoogleTranslate for any remaining doubts, then you will just have to join a Lohnsteuerhilfeverein, and pay the around 55€ for them to do the tax return for you: https://www.steuerring.de/fileadmin/user_upload/Dokumente/downloads/steuerring_flyer_english.pdf

To be honest I would prefer paying 55€ than not being sure if I complete what is required. 
I tried steuergo but they do not do ESt 1 C. Can I do it online with steuerring.de? 

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No.

You simply give them your details and Lohnsteuerbescheinigung and they do everything for you. 

They offer a complete service.

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3 hours ago, PandaMunich said:

No.

You simply give them your details and Lohnsteuerbescheinigung and they do everything for you. 

They offer a complete service.

Hi Panda, 
I sent you a PM, did you receive it? 

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Nope.

But I don't see what you want to discuss in a private message, everything has been said: join a Lohnsteuerhilfeverein!

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3 minutes ago, PandaMunich said:

Nope.

But I don't see what you want to discuss in a private message, everything has been said: join a Lohnsteuerhilfeverein!

I thought you could help me do it now. I think you can do it in 5min, in exchange of a payment if necessary. 
I wrote some emails using the website you told me but will take one week. If I complete them tonite I can send it by post on Monday.

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