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I am going to work as "Grenzgänger-Schweiz" from January.

Suppose If I get 6000 CH (Brutto) everymonth. I should pay Swiss tax in switzerland is 4.7% i.e 282 CH.

I want to know How much approximate tax I have to pay in Germany (because I live in Germany) everymonth on my monthly salary?

Could anyone help me out?

Thanks in advance

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That 4.5% Swiss source tax reduces your German income tax, so in the end you will be taxed as if you had earned that salary in Germany, see here: https://www.vlh.de/arbeiten-pendeln/beruf/grenzgaenger-in-die-schweiz-so-wird-ihr-einkommen-besteuert.html

 

Source: https://www.lohncomputer.ch

 

1'068.10 CHF

 

307.50 CHF

 

66.00 CHF

 

86.40 CHF

 

27.00 CHF

 

311.20 CHF

 

270.00 CHF

 

 

You will not have to prepay that German income tax every month, but you will have to prepay the yearly German income tax in 4 installments, on 10. March, 10. June, 10. September, 10. December: http://www.gaav.de/grenzgaenger/steuern.html 

 

You can approximate your German income tax burden, by first approximating your taxable income:

gross salary in €

- 13.3% (= 17.8% - 4.5% Swiss source tax) Swiss social security deductions, see above

______________________

= taxable income in €

 

Let's do the example for a 72,000 CHF yearly salary (1 CHF = 0.866990635 Euro):

62,423.33€ (= 72,000*0,866990635 €)

- 0.133 * 62,423.33€

______________________

= 54121.03€ taxable income

 

--> input 54121 into the Parmentier income tax calculator: http://www.parmentier.de/steuer/index.php?site=tax-income

 

Total tax burden (approximated): 

if you're single: 15.039,02  EURO

if you're married: 9.537,20  EURO

 

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17 hours ago, PandaMunich said:

That 4.5% Swiss source tax reduces your German income tax, so in the end you will be taxed as if you had earned that salary in Germany, see here: https://www.vlh.de/arbeiten-pendeln/beruf/grenzgaenger-in-die-schweiz-so-wird-ihr-einkommen-besteuert.html

 

Source: https://www.lohncomputer.ch

 

1'068.10 CHF

 

307.50 CHF

 

66.00 CHF

 

86.40 CHF

 

27.00 CHF

 

311.20 CHF

 

270.00 CHF

 

 

You will not have to prepay that German income tax every month, but you will have to prepay the yearly German income tax in 4 installments, on 10. March, 10. June, 10. September, 10. December: http://www.gaav.de/grenzgaenger/steuern.html 

 

You can approximate your German income tax burden, by first approximating your taxable income:

gross salary in €

- 13.3% (= 17.8% - 4.5% Swiss source tax) Swiss social security deductions, see above

______________________

= taxable income in €

 

Let's do the example for a 72,000 CHF yearly salary (1 CHF = 0.866990635 Euro):

62,423.33€ (= 72,000*0,866990635 €)

- 0.133 * 62,423.33€

______________________

= 54121.03€ taxable income

 

--> input 54121 into the Parmentier income tax calculator: http://www.parmentier.de/steuer/index.php?site=tax-income

 

Total tax burden (approximated): 

if you're single: 15.039,02  EURO

if you're married: 9.537,20  EURO

 

Thanks PandaMunich

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On 11.10.2017, 22:24:26, PandaMunich said:

That 4.5% Swiss source tax reduces your German income tax, so in the end you will be taxed as if you had earned that salary in Germany, see here: https://www.vlh.de/arbeiten-pendeln/beruf/grenzgaenger-in-die-schweiz-so-wird-ihr-einkommen-besteuert.html

 

Source: https://www.lohncomputer.ch

 

1'068.10 CHF

 

307.50 CHF

 

66.00 CHF

 

86.40 CHF

 

27.00 CHF

 

311.20 CHF

 

270.00 CHF

 

 

You will not have to prepay that German income tax every month, but you will have to prepay the yearly German income tax in 4 installments, on 10. March, 10. June, 10. September, 10. December: http://www.gaav.de/grenzgaenger/steuern.html 

 

You can approximate your German income tax burden, by first approximating your taxable income:

gross salary in €

- 13.3% (= 17.8% - 4.5% Swiss source tax) Swiss social security deductions, see above

______________________

= taxable income in €

 

Let's do the example for a 72,000 CHF yearly salary (1 CHF = 0.866990635 Euro):

62,423.33€ (= 72,000*0,866990635 €)

- 0.133 * 62,423.33€

______________________

= 54121.03€ taxable income

 

--> input 54121 into the Parmentier income tax calculator: http://www.parmentier.de/steuer/index.php?site=tax-income

 

Total tax burden (approximated): 

if you're single: 15.039,02  EURO

if you're married: 9.537,20  EURO

 

I am paying freiwillig versichern for my wife and kid in Germany which is 180 Euros per month. Is this amount exempted from Tax?

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Anything you pay for public health insurance reduces your taxable income, you declare it in Anlage Vorsorgeaufwand.

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I have to pay taxes to Finanzamt in advance for every quarter if I works as grenzgänger (got info in google). Thats why I am expecting an amount (letter) from finanzamt that I should pay in advance.
But, I did not recieve any letters from Finanzamt. I have called finanzamt and they told that I am not going to get any letters for the amount.
But they adviced me to do a tax declaration for 2017 year.
Is it something wrong?

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Nothing is wrong.

 

You will only be made to pre-pay for 2018 after your 2017 tax return had been processed, i.e. when they know how much you usually earn.

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2 hours ago, PandaMunich said:

Nothing is wrong.

 

You will only be made to pre-pay for 2018 after your 2017 tax return had been processed, i.e. when they know how much you usually earn.

Thanks PandaMunich!

Is the deadline for tax returns in May 2018 or in December 2018? I 'm married and have kids and in Tax class 3.

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31. May 2018 if you do the tax return on your own, 31. December 2018 if you use a Lohnsteuerhilfeverein or a Steuerberater.

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Question about Kindergeld for Grenzgänger:

My company told me to take Kindegeld from Schweiz and it is 200CHF. At the same time I have to abmeld from German-Kindergeld. my company told me "As per German law, if you work in Schweiz as Grenzgänger (and if wife does not work in Germany) than you are eligeble to take kindergeld only from Schweiz not from Germany "

But, I wanted to take it only from Germany.
Is it True?

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It's half true.

 

Yes, if your wife doesn't work as an employee in Germany, you have to take the Swiss Kindergeld (called "Kinderzulage") of 200 CHF via your Swiss employer, by giving your employer both your child's birth certificate and a Wohnsitzbescheinigung (= proof that your child lives in Germany) from your Einwohnermeldamt.

 

But you will also get the difference, i.e. the remaining money up to the amount of the German Kindergeld, from your local German Familienkasse: http://www.kindergeld.org/familienkassen/baden-wuerttemberg/stuttgart.html

 

The procedure is explained in this article by a lawyer: https://www.kanzlei-bad-krozingen.de/kindergeld/

 

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17 hours ago, PandaMunich said:

It's half true.

 

Yes, if your wife doesn't work as an employee in Germany, you have to take the Swiss Kindergeld (called "Kinderzulage") of 200 CHF via your Swiss employer, by giving your employer both your child's birth certificate and a Wohnsitzbescheinigung (= proof that your child lives in Germany) from your Einwohnermeldamt.

 

But you will also get the difference, i.e. the remaining money up to the amount of the German Kindergeld, from your local German Familienkasse: http://www.kindergeld.org/familienkassen/baden-wuerttemberg/stuttgart.html

 

The procedure is explained in this article by a lawyer: https://www.kanzlei-bad-krozingen.de/kindergeld/

 

Thanks allot PandaMunich!

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