Trump's Presidency: Is this the next domino to fall?

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9 hours ago, Keleth said:

And J2 yet again carries on like he hasn`t made some total bullshit statement and ignores every reference to it.

 

Fair enough, but do note that AlexTr, El Jeffo, LavenderPain and a few others have made outrageous predictions for 311 pages without anyone demanding an explanation.   

 

And look, AlexTr and Jeffo are all lathered up again over the Kievan Ruse.    But this time is different.   :lol:

 

 

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On 9/27/2019, 8:28:39, balticus said:

 

307 pages of being wrong and yet you and Jeffo continue like gambling addicts on meth.   Always looking for some action or the next hit.   

 

Based on what has come out in the past 16 hours, i expect this cycle will fizzle out  around  Monday-Tuesday of next week.  

 

Well, how's your prediction looking right now?

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6 hours ago, balticus said:

 

Fair enough, but do note that AlexTr, El Jeffo, LavenderPain and a few others have made outrageous predictions for 311 pages without anyone demanding an explanation.   

 

And look, AlexTr and Jeffo are all lathered up again over the Kievan Ruse.    But this time is different.   :lol:

 

 

You seem to be missing my point here.

You cannot compare their stuff to the total and utter wackjobbery that J2 comes out with.

They do tend to go along with stuff that is out in the open whereas J2 tends to believe teenagers in their mums basements.

J2s sources are unbelievably people who think that Clinton and his friends run a mass pedophile/child eating (yes they believe that) and that Trump was picked specifically to bring an end to this.They also believe Trump feigned collusion with Russia (funny he would fight that then) so he could enlist Robert Mueller in preventing a coup by Obama,Clinton and Soros.

All these claims made by Q who also claimed Merkel was Hitlers granddaughter,every mass shooting is a false flag op organised by the "Cabal",and many more.Typically once his claims have proved to be untrue they are dismissed by his followers as deliberate misinformation in order to distract members of the "Cabal" from what`s really coming after them.

Even well known conspiracy theorists who have been around for years don`t believe in Q .

 

J2 also believes Sandy Hook was staged and the parents etc are all actors,911 was commited by the Deep State and Bush etc (Funny how now the conspiracy theorists have turned around and believe the Right wing is the good side and it`s the Left wing bad now whereas before they were all in it together)That Rothschild Family controls the world.

He also probably believes in Lizard People being our rulers,Flat Earth and other wacko shit.

Oh but he`s definitely not Right Wing or Antisemitic or Homophobic or Racist though just one of the millions of members of the "Q Army".

 

 

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Just now, Keleth said:

You seem to be missing my point here.

 

You cannot compare their stuff to the total and utter wackjobbery that J2 comes out with.

 

J2 also believes... 

 

just one of the millions of members of the "Q Army".

 

In case you have not noticed,  i have stated unequivocally on this thread and others that Qchan is nonsense and asked Jeremy to stop posting conspiracy stuff. 

 

That said, Jeffo and AlexTr have been consistently wrong for 300+ pages and continue in the insanity loop believing that the next reported scandal sourced from a politically motivated news site will be the one to take Trump down (in contrast to the previous dozens of stories which fizzled out).   

 

Outside of a few months between the disasterous testimony of Mueller  and now, Jeffo and AlexTr have been on a cycle of euphoria to disappointment/frustration for over two years.   These do not seem like stable individuals. 

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1 hour ago, Keleth said:

Oh but he`s definitely ALSO Right Wing AND Antisemitic AND Homophobic AND Racist though just one of the millions of members of the "Q Army".

 

Fixed that for you. ;)

[/"gentle teasing" J2 style]

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10 minutes ago, balticus said:

 

In case you have not noticed,  i have stated unequivocally on this thread and others that Qchan is nonsense and asked Jeremy to stop posting conspiracy stuff. 

 

He can`t post anything else because nothing else exists in his world.

11 minutes ago, balticus said:

That said, Jeffo and AlexTr have been consistently wrong for 300+ pages

Yep but their wrongness has not been based on wackjobbery.

The Mueller report showed no collusion,however it did show up plenty of breaking(bending) of the law.

Whereas J2s stuff has absolutely no basis in reality.

13 minutes ago, balticus said:

Outside of a few months between the disasterous testimony of Mueller  and now, Jeffo and AlexTr have been on a cycle of euphoria to disappointment/frustration for over two years

But however they do base their views on Democratic leanings in the same way you base yours on Republican leanings.They think the Mueller Report showed collusion etc whereas you believe it showed nothing whereas the truth is probably somewhere in between both povs.

Whereas J2 bases his on fuck knows what,maybe Hilary refused him a shag in the past or his wife looks like Hilary or something.

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But her emails!

He has pressured a foreign leader to interfere in the 2020 American presidential election.

He urged a foreign country to intervene in the 2016 presidential election.

He divulged classified information to foreign officials.

He publicly undermined American intelligence agents while standing next to a hostile foreign autocrat.

He hired a national security adviser who he knew had secretly worked as a foreign lobbyist.

He encourages foreign leaders to enrich him and his family by staying at his hotel.

He genuflects to murderous dictators.

He has alienated America’s closest allies.

He lied to the American people about his company’s business dealings in Russia.

He tells new lies virtually every week — about the economy, voter fraud, even the weather.

He spends hours on end watching television and days on end staying at resorts.

He often declines to read briefing books or perform other basic functions of a president’s job.

He has aides, as well as members of his own party in Congress, who mock him behind his back as unfit for office.

He has repeatedly denigrated a deceased United States senator who was a war hero.

He insulted a Gold Star family — the survivors of American troops killed in action.

He described a former first lady, not long after she died, as “nasty.”

He described white supremacists as “some very fine people.”

He told four women of color, all citizens and members of Congress, to “go back and help fix the totally broken and crime-infested places from which they came.”

He made a joke about Pocahontas during a ceremony honoring Native American World War II veterans.

He launched his political career by falsely claiming that the first black president was not really American.

He launched his presidential campaign by describing Mexicans as “rapists.”

He has described women, variously, as “a dog,” “a pig” and “horseface,” as well as “bleeding badly from a facelift” and having “blood coming out of her wherever.”

He has been accused of sexual assault or misconduct by multiple women.

He enthusiastically campaigned for a Senate candidate who was accused of molesting multiple teenage girls.

He waved around his arms, while giving a speech, to ridicule a physically disabled person.

He has encouraged his supporters to commit violence against his political opponents.

He has called for his opponents and critics to be investigated and jailed.

He uses a phrase popular with dictators — “the enemy of the people” — to describe journalists.

He attempts to undermine any independent source of information that he does not like, including judges, scientists, journalists, election officials, the F.B.I., the C.I.A., the Congressional Budget Office and the National Weather Service.

He has tried to harass the chairman of the Federal Reserve into lowering interest rates.

He said that a judge could not be objective because of his Mexican heritage.

He obstructed justice by trying to influence an investigation into his presidential campaign.

He violated federal law by directing his lawyer to pay $280,000 in hush money to cover up two apparent extramarital affairs.

He made his fortune partly through wide-scale financial fraud.

He has refused to release his tax returns.

He falsely accused his predecessor of wiretapping him.

He claimed that federal law-enforcement agents and prosecutors regularly fabricated evidence, thereby damaging the credibility of criminal investigations across the country.

He has ordered children to be physically separated from their parents.

He has suggested that America is no different from or better than Vladimir Putin’s Russia.

He has called America a “hellhole.”

He is the president of the United States, and he is a threat to virtually everything that the United States should stand for.

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Yeah but, no but, yeah but, no.  It's all the Democrat's fault, we all know that.

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3 hours ago, silty1 said:

But her emails!

He has pressured a foreign leader to interfere in the 2020 American presidential election.

He urged a foreign country to intervene in the 2016 presidential election.

He divulged classified information to foreign officials.

He publicly undermined American intelligence agents while standing next to a hostile foreign autocrat.

He hired a national security adviser who he knew had secretly worked as a foreign lobbyist.

He encourages foreign leaders to enrich him and his family by staying at his hotel.

He genuflects to murderous dictators.

He has alienated America’s closest allies.

He lied to the American people about his company’s business dealings in Russia.

He tells new lies virtually every week — about the economy, voter fraud, even the weather.

He spends hours on end watching television and days on end staying at resorts.

He often declines to read briefing books or perform other basic functions of a president’s job.

He has aides, as well as members of his own party in Congress, who mock him behind his back as unfit for office.

He has repeatedly denigrated a deceased United States senator who was a war hero.

He insulted a Gold Star family — the survivors of American troops killed in action.

He described a former first lady, not long after she died, as “nasty.”

He described white supremacists as “some very fine people.”

He told four women of color, all citizens and members of Congress, to “go back and help fix the totally broken and crime-infested places from which they came.”

He made a joke about Pocahontas during a ceremony honoring Native American World War II veterans.

He launched his political career by falsely claiming that the first black president was not really American.

He launched his presidential campaign by describing Mexicans as “rapists.”

He has described women, variously, as “a dog,” “a pig” and “horseface,” as well as “bleeding badly from a facelift” and having “blood coming out of her wherever.”

He has been accused of sexual assault or misconduct by multiple women.

He enthusiastically campaigned for a Senate candidate who was accused of molesting multiple teenage girls.

He waved around his arms, while giving a speech, to ridicule a physically disabled person.

He has encouraged his supporters to commit violence against his political opponents.

He has called for his opponents and critics to be investigated and jailed.

He uses a phrase popular with dictators — “the enemy of the people” — to describe journalists.

He attempts to undermine any independent source of information that he does not like, including judges, scientists, journalists, election officials, the F.B.I., the C.I.A., the Congressional Budget Office and the National Weather Service.

He has tried to harass the chairman of the Federal Reserve into lowering interest rates.

He said that a judge could not be objective because of his Mexican heritage.

He obstructed justice by trying to influence an investigation into his presidential campaign.

He violated federal law by directing his lawyer to pay $280,000 in hush money to cover up two apparent extramarital affairs.

He made his fortune partly through wide-scale financial fraud.

He has refused to release his tax returns.

He falsely accused his predecessor of wiretapping him.

He claimed that federal law-enforcement agents and prosecutors regularly fabricated evidence, thereby damaging the credibility of criminal investigations across the country.

He has ordered children to be physically separated from their parents.

He has suggested that America is no different from or better than Vladimir Putin’s Russia.

He has called America a “hellhole.”

He is the president of the United States, and he is a threat to virtually everything that the United States should stand for.

Yeah, sure, but PRESIDENTIAL HARASSMENT!

 

They are trying to stop ME, because I am fighting for YOU!

 

There has been no President in the history of our Country who has been treated so badly as I have. The Democrats are frozen with hatred and fear. They get nothing done. This should never be allowed to happen to another President. Witch Hunt!

 

Suck it, libs!

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5 hours ago, silty1 said:

But her emails!

He has pressured a foreign leader to interfere in the 2020 American presidential election.

He urged a foreign country to intervene in the 2016 presidential election.

He divulged classified information to foreign officials.

He publicly undermined American intelligence agents while standing next to a hostile foreign autocrat.

He hired a national security adviser who he knew had secretly worked as a foreign lobbyist.

He encourages foreign leaders to enrich him and his family by staying at his hotel.

He genuflects to murderous dictators.

He has alienated America’s closest allies.

He lied to the American people about his company’s business dealings in Russia.

He tells new lies virtually every week — about the economy, voter fraud, even the weather.

He spends hours on end watching television and days on end staying at resorts.

He often declines to read briefing books or perform other basic functions of a president’s job.

He has aides, as well as members of his own party in Congress, who mock him behind his back as unfit for office.

He has repeatedly denigrated a deceased United States senator who was a war hero.

He insulted a Gold Star family — the survivors of American troops killed in action.

He described a former first lady, not long after she died, as “nasty.”

He described white supremacists as “some very fine people.”

He told four women of color, all citizens and members of Congress, to “go back and help fix the totally broken and crime-infested places from which they came.”

He made a joke about Pocahontas during a ceremony honoring Native American World War II veterans.

He launched his political career by falsely claiming that the first black president was not really American.

He launched his presidential campaign by describing Mexicans as “rapists.”

He has described women, variously, as “a dog,” “a pig” and “horseface,” as well as “bleeding badly from a facelift” and having “blood coming out of her wherever.”

He has been accused of sexual assault or misconduct by multiple women.

He enthusiastically campaigned for a Senate candidate who was accused of molesting multiple teenage girls.

He waved around his arms, while giving a speech, to ridicule a physically disabled person.

He has encouraged his supporters to commit violence against his political opponents.

He has called for his opponents and critics to be investigated and jailed.

He uses a phrase popular with dictators — “the enemy of the people” — to describe journalists.

He attempts to undermine any independent source of information that he does not like, including judges, scientists, journalists, election officials, the F.B.I., the C.I.A., the Congressional Budget Office and the National Weather Service.

He has tried to harass the chairman of the Federal Reserve into lowering interest rates.

He said that a judge could not be objective because of his Mexican heritage.

He obstructed justice by trying to influence an investigation into his presidential campaign.

He violated federal law by directing his lawyer to pay $280,000 in hush money to cover up two apparent extramarital affairs.

He made his fortune partly through wide-scale financial fraud.

He has refused to release his tax returns.

He falsely accused his predecessor of wiretapping him.

He claimed that federal law-enforcement agents and prosecutors regularly fabricated evidence, thereby damaging the credibility of criminal investigations across the country.

He has ordered children to be physically separated from their parents.

He has suggested that America is no different from or better than Vladimir Putin’s Russia.

He has called America a “hellhole.”

He is the president of the United States, and he is a threat to virtually everything that the United States should stand for.

 

 

 

He has a daughter (Ivanka Trump) and her husband with active roles in his administration

He used the orphaned baby from the recent Texas massacre in a despicable photo op smiling with thumbs up.

He's had an unprecedented number of resignations and firings in his administration.

He has a Cabinet comprised of mostly wealthy white males.

He's had several of his close advisors jailed or legal proceeding started against them.

He conflated the size of his inaugural crowd.

He had a disapproval rating among black voters at 75%.

He said the Central Park Five should be executed by the State after taking out a full page ad in the NYT. The Central Park Five were falsely accused minority men and have been completely exonerated although Trump still suggest they are guilty.

He gave out paper towels to the victims of the hurricane in Puerto Rico.

He excessively uses Twitter to troll with undignified and hateful tweets.

He's inarticulate, lacks finesse, boastful, and fumbles his communication and speeches on the world stage.

He made embarrassing comments to the French President's wife

He withdrew  from  the Paris Climate  Change Mitigation.

He has a cozy relationship with the NRA meeting to ask for financial support.

He aggressively pushed a Prime Minister aside.

He  recently lied about a hurricane threat to Alabama.

He's been sued for housing discrimination.

He plays an excessive amount of golf at the tax players' expense and irony eludes the President.

He's using military funding from the Pentagon to build the wall at the border.

He had a military parade for July 4th.

He employs undocumented workers at Mar-a-lago.

He moved the U.S. Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. 

He  contributed to the Republicans losing 30 congressional seats in the midterm election.

He called Baltimore "disgusting" and "rat infested".

He wants to dismantle Obama's Affordable Care Act.

He has skin the color of  deep fried donuts and bad hair and small hands.

He's the President of the United States, if you elect a clown you're definitely going to get a circus.

 

 

 

 

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The timing is, well, hilarious.

 

 

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Donald Trump's administration is amping up an investigation into Hillary Clinton's emails, The Washington Post reported Saturday, breathing new life into a pet issue used by the president to rail against his opponent during the 2016 elections.

The question of whether Clinton improperly used a private email account and server while secretary of state led to Trump's repeat assertion that she deserved to be put in prison and frequent chants of "lock her up" at his political rallies.

Following an FBI investigation into the matter, former director James Comey did not recommend charges against Clinton but did describe her conduct as "extremely careless."

In recent weeks, up to 130 officials have been contacted by State Department investigators concerning emails they sent years ago which have been retroactively classified, nearly all of which were sent to or eventually made their way into Clinton's unsecure email account, the Post reported.

The paper, which cited current and former officials, said State Department investigators began contacting employees approximately 1.5 years ago, before the effort trailed off, only to be revived again in August.

"This has nothing to do with who is in the White House," one senior State Department official told the Post, speaking on condition of anonymity. "This is about the time it took to go through millions of emails, which is about 3.5 years."

Revelation of the renewed effort comes the same week that Democrats in Congress launched an impeachment investigation into Trump over accusations he tried to arm-twist the Ukrainian president into providing dirt on one of his main 2020 election rivals, Joe Biden.

State Department officials deny the renewed email effort has any political motivation.

However, one former senior US official familiar with the investigation said it seemed to be a means for Republicans "to keep the Clinton email issue alive" and represented "a way to tarnish a whole bunch of Democratic foreign policy people."

Those who have found their emails swept up in the investigation do not seem to be at risk of criminal prosecution, however.

Trump's own handling of classified information has come into repeat question, such as when he revealed highly classified information on the Islamic State group to senior Russian officials in an Oval Office meeting in May 2017.

And in April, a whistleblower told Congress some 25 White House officials including top advisors of Trump were given security clearances despite staff recommendations against it.

Clinton has previously chalked up her election defeat to Comey's brief re-opening of the FBI investigation into her use of the private email account and server just days before the 2016 election.

 

 

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So it was Deep State after all -

 

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Fox News’ Chris Wallace tore into senior White House adviser Stephen Miller for refusing to directly answer his questions about President Donald Trump’s dealings with Ukraine during a heated interview Sunday.

Miller appeared on “Fox News Sunday” to defend the president against a whistleblower complaint filed last month by a U.S. intelligence official that alleges the White House tried to cover up a July phone call between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

During the exchange, Trump repeatedly pressured Zelensky to investigate Joe Biden, a potential opponent against Trump in the 2020 election, according to the complaint.

“I’ve worked in the ... federal government now for nearly three years ― I know what the Deep State looks like,” Miller said, referencing a far-right conspiracy theory that bureaucrats are working within the government to undermine Tump.

“I know the difference between a whistleblower and a deep state operative,” he continued. “This is a deep state operative, pure and simple. ... This is about, do you want a democracy in this country or do you want a deep state?”

Wallace pushed back, noting that Acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire testified before the House Intelligence Committee on Thursday that the whistleblower, who has not been publicly identified, had “acted in good faith” and “followed the law.”

 

 

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Quote Source: Transcript of the phone call between Trump and Zelensky. 

 

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The President: Well, she's going to go through some things. I will have Mr. Giuliani give you a call and I am also going to have Attorney General Barr call and we will get to the bottom of it. I'm sure you will figure it out. I heard the prosecutor was treated very badly and he was a very fair prosecutor so good luck with everything. Your economy is going to get better and better I predict. You have a lot of assets. It's a great country. I have many Ukrainian friends, their incredible people.

 

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