Trump's Presidency: Is this the next domino to fall?

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14 minutes ago, delbert said:

four Democrats wrote to the Ukraine in May  2018 asking them to dig up dirt on Trump, Trump yesterday asked the Ukraine WHY they stopped the probe, if anybody should be impeached or fired it should be those four Dems

 

Actually, you'd do well not to believe the spin and to click through to the actual letter. Suck it up. You got played by another conservative rag.

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27 minutes ago, AlexTr said:

Suck it up. You got played by another conservative rag.

 

We know that this is going to end in frustration and disappointment for you.   

 

After more than 2 years, you still haven't learned to wait until the facts come out to talk trash.  

 

It is just painful to watch.  

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34 minutes ago, AlexTr said:

 

Actually, you'd do well not to believe the spin and to click through to the actual letter. Suck it up. You got played by another conservative rag.

I just smile when you write this shite because the truth will come out and you will move on to your next lying attempt at trying to impeach Trump

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Keep on repeating that mantra, SA, if it keeps you calm.

 

Yes, Trump has done a remarkable job escaping responsibility for all his crimes so far. Completely aided and abetted by Moscow Mitch McConnell and his toady Bill Barr.

 

But threatening to withhold aid (which is allocated by Congress, not the president) from a country's leaders unless they invent some dirt on your political enemies for you - which he has actually admitted he did, and insists it's "no big deal" - might just be the bridge too far. And that's not even mentioning trying to hide the whistleblower complaints against you. See the unanimous votes in the House and the Senate to this end.

 

There's even buzz that 30 senators would vote to impeach Trump right now if the vote were held in secret, and that's before the House even starts their investigations. Trump is losing his allies, who have been protecting him so far. Even the most die-hard Republicans draw the line at treason, and that's all that's on the menu right now.

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14 minutes ago, El Jeffo said:

unless they invent some dirt on your political enemies for you 

 

If you want Joe Biden to win the nomination for 2020, the less light shown his son's activities, both business and personal, the better.     If you want a Democrat to position as anti-corruption, it would be best just to keep this quiet.   Biden has his own problems, age being a primary one, but the optics on his son's very weird and corrupt activities will be examined at a completely different level if Joe Biden is a contender. 

 

 

14 minutes ago, El Jeffo said:

 

There's even buzz that 30 senators would vote to impeach Trump right now if the vote were held in secret, and that's before the House even starts their investigations. Trump is losing his allies, who have been protecting him so far. Even the most die-hard Republicans draw the line at treason, and that's all that's on the menu right now.

 

Well if there is "buzz", then maybe i should rethink unless "buzz" is like the anonymous sources which during the Mueller investigation created a half day of hype before being discredited.  

 

Even if the most exaggerated of the claims against Trump are true, how are his actions "treason" or "high crimes and misdemeanors"  ?    

 

You can post a zillion articles from anti-Trump publications and pictures of environmentally unfriendly burgers, but you already know that this episode is most likely going to end just like the others have in the last 250 pages of this thread.   

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That "8 times Biden was mentioned" was a complete lie. Also the "quid pro quo" was in fact Joe Biden.

 

In case you think this is a lie, here is Joe Biden actually ON FILM, bragging...

 

 

his son is a drug addict btw.

 

 

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The Ukraine Scandal Is Not One Phone Call. It’s a Massive Plot.

 

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Giuliani, though is the central figure. He has employed very little subterfuge. Giuliani told the Washington Post he kept Trump informed of his work in Ukraine for months, and declared, “My narrow interest is for the benefit of my client.” The apparent reason for his candor was to make it known to Ukraine that he was not a goofy cable-television blatherer but the president’s designated representative for Ukraine policy. If Ukraine wanted to get anything done, it had to work with Rudy.

Ukraine got the message. Its officials “expressed concern to U.S. senators that the aid had been held up as a penalty for resisting that pressure” to investigate Biden, reports the Wall Street Journal.

 

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Trump's getting ready to throw Pence under the bus...too bad for him they are stuck together.

 

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President Donald Trump said on Wednesday that reporters should ask Mike Pence to release details of his conversations with Ukraine, seemingly drawing his vice president into the scandal that has engulfed the administration.

 

“I think you should ask for Vice President Pence’s conversation, because he had a couple of conversations also,” Trump said at a news conference on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly in New York. “I could save you a lot of time. They were all perfect. Nothing was mentioned of any import other than congratulations.”

 

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13 minutes ago, jeremytwo said:

That "8 times Biden was mentioned" was a complete lie. Also the "quid pro quo" was in fact Joe Biden.

 

In case you think this is a lie, here is Joe Biden actually ON FILM, bragging...

 

 

his son is a drug addict btw.

 

 

 

Yeah, well, some kids have alcoholic fathers and it doesn't reflect on them.

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Just now, CincyInDE said:

 

ok maybe not.  

 

Wonder if John Oliver is on the list of those journalists who will be charged under the RICO act for libelous journalism.

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Deep thoughts with j², who has obviously never heard of the first amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America.

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The Senate voted Wednesday for a second time to block President Donald Trump’s emergency declaration, rebuking the president over his attempt to fund a border wall without congressional approval.

In a 54-41 vote, the Senate approved a resolution to disapprove of Trump's emergency declaration, including 11 Republicans. The vote comes after the Trump administration announced it would divert $3.6 billion in military construction funding from several states to build his border wall.

The president will surely veto the resolution, as he did in March. Under federal law, Democrats may bring up the emergency vote every six months. 

Prior to the vote, Senate Democrats accused Republicans of prioritizing Trump over military families...

 

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10 minutes ago, fraufruit said:

Is that the same John Oliver who just won an Emmy for his show?

 

j2 is getting burnt so often, he'll need skin grafts soon.

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Again, it's about more than just one phone call, no matter how much our alt-Estonian and deluded alcoholic would have you believe otherwise:

 

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The whistleblower complaint that focused on President Donald Trump’s request of Ukraine’s government to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden also alleges White House officials moved the records of some of Trump’s communications with foreign officials onto a separate computer network, according to a published report.

 

The Washington Post, citing a person who has read the complaint, reported the whistleblower alleged officials moved communications from Trump’s July 25 call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky onto a different network.

 

The Wall Street Journal reported the complaint involves more than one episode and is based on a series of events, according to several people who attended or were briefed on a meeting last week between the intelligence community inspector general and the House Intelligence Committee.

 

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14 minutes ago, El Jeffo said:

Again, it's about more than just one phone call, no matter how much our alt-Estonian and deluded alcoholic would have you believe otherwise:

 

You may be correct, but based on 304 pages of this thread in which a big smoking gun turned out to be nothing, I would hold off on the trash talking and victory laps.  

 

Does this situation not seem familiar?    You never learn. 

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3 minutes ago, balticus said:

Does this situation not seem familiar?    You never learn. 

 

Says the guy who still insists he's an Estonian female.

 

Okay, Loretta, the projection is strong in you. I am enjoying watching you flail, though.

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