Trump's Presidency: Is this the next domino to fall?

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2 hours ago, SmurfLee said:

 

If Trump is so bad, he will not be elected second time, and he has only one more year left to make any bad influence.

So why bother?

 

George W. Bush was almost as bad, yet was elected the second time around. 

 

He has over a year and a half left of his current term, which will end on January 20th, 2021. 

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31 minutes ago, AlexTr said:

 

Sounds like...privilege.

Some dogs are more privileged than others!😂

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5 minutes ago, A.N.Other said:

 

George W. Bush was almost as bad, yet was elected the second time around. 

 

He has over a year and a half left of his current term, which will end on January 20th, 2021. 

 

No, he really wasn't. Trump is Nixon in all caps with neon. 

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1 hour ago, El Jeffo said:

Never in the history of humankind have so many words been typed by someone who has so few. By someone who claims to know so much and, at the same time, so little. Someone who has been so loud, yet claims to be silent.

 

If the world ends tomorrow, so be it, because we have reached the pinnacle of self-unawareness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6EaoPMANQM

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2 hours ago, SmurfLee said:

I do not know much about politics.

If Trump is so bad, he will not be elected second time, and he has only one more year left to make any bad influence.

So why bother?

 

Because many of the people on TT are addicted to being angry.   

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50 minutes ago, A.N.Other said:

 

George W. Bush was almost as bad, yet was elected the second time around. 

 

Except that George Bush waged two illegal wars resulting in thousands of unnecessary deaths. As a side note, his father also waged a war in Iraq which led to the deaths of 600,000 children, "A price worth paying" Madeleine Albrecht.

 

So far under Trump, there don't seem to be enough wars and killing yet. Obviously incompetent at the mass murder game.

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Flynn told Mueller that people tied to Trump and Congress tried to obstruct probe. At this point, we can just go ahead and say that any American who still supports Trump is wildly ignorant of US law, just plain stupid, or not driven by patriotism as much as self-interest.

 

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Former national security adviser Michael Flynn told investigators that people linked to the Trump administration and Congress reached out to him in an effort to interfere in the Russia probe, according to newly-unredacted court papers filed Thursday.

 

The court filing from special counsel Robert Mueller is believed to mark the first public acknowledgement that a person connected to Capitol Hill was suspected of engaging in an attempt to impede the investigation into Russian election interference.

 

The defendant informed the government of multiple instances, both before and after his guilty plea, where either he or his attorneys received communications from persons connected to the Administration or Congress that could’ve affected both his willingness to cooperate and the completeness of that cooperation,” the court papers say.

 

Flynn even provided a voicemail recording of one such communication, the court papers say.

 

Prosecutors did not identify any of the people who reached out to Flynn, but said the special counsel's office was in some instances "unaware of the outreach until being alerted to it by the defendant."

 

No other details were provided in the filing, but the Mueller report noted that President Donald Trump's personal lawyer left a voicemail message for Flynn in late November 2017 that addressed the possibility of him cooperating with the government.

 

"It wouldn't surprise me if you've gone on to make a deal with ... the government," the attorney said in the voicemail message, according to Mueller.

 

If... there's information that implicates the President, then we've got a national security issue [so] ... we need some kind of heads up. Just for the sake of protecting all our interests if we can ... [R]emember what we've always said about the President and his feelings toward Flynn and, that still remains."

 

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16 hours ago, El Jeffo said:

Never in the history of humankind have so many words been typed by someone who has so few. By someone who claims to know so much and, at the same time, so little. Someone who has been so loud, yet claims to be silent.

Never in the history of Homo Sapiens, has any one spoke with such impressive logic.

One can be an expert on subject A, but could be knowing little on subject B.

 

16 hours ago, El Jeffo said:

If the world ends tomorrow, so be it, because we have reached the pinnacle of self-unawareness.

Two points:

(1) The world is not ending today (yesterday's tomorrow), so we have not reached the pinnacle of self unawareness.

(2) According to what you say, you are not among we home sapiens, because you have self awareness, and we homo sapiens do not.

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12 hours ago, fraufruit said:

 

Why bother what? Are you saying that we shouldn't vote or what?

 

I am saying just go and vote for next term without complaining so much, because if he is bad, it will be reflected on votes, and he will not be elected.

Apparently, something is not that democratic. I did not like Bush jr, but he served 2 terms.

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15 hours ago, A.N.Other said:

 

George W. Bush was almost as bad, yet was elected the second time around. 

 

He has over a year and a half left of his current term, which will end on January 20th, 2021. 

 

Just very hard for me to believe Bush was elected twice.

He is truly mediocre and it is just so clearly showing up. He does not show any charisma, and looked so stupid.

The president of America, in a sense, is representing the image of the country. I can hardly understand why Americans want such figure to represent them.

 

Not to mention what he did on economy. The economy was very bad in 2008.

 

How can this happen in democratic country? How can more than half people be deceived?

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5 minutes ago, SmurfLee said:

How can this happen in democratic country? How can more than half people be deceived?

 

It's called the Electoral College where one can win without getting the most votes.

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Trump does not now have nor did he ever have the support, much less the votes, of even half of the American populace. Read more.

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1 hour ago, SmurfLee said:

 

Just very hard for me to believe Bush was elected twice.

 

Some would argue that he was only elected once. The supreme court was split along party lines on that after the 2000 election. 

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On 5/17/2019, 6:31:34, AlexTr said:

Flynn told Mueller that people tied to Trump and Congress tried to obstruct probe. At this point, we can just go ahead and say that any American who still supports Trump is wildly ignorant of US law, just plain stupid, or not driven by patriotism as much as self-interest.

 

 

 

So who was the "person connected to Congress" who contacted Flynn to try to change either his testimony or his guilty plea? How much shit do you think is in that man's pants right now as he realizes his name will come out by the end of the month?

Do you think it might be the Congressman who openly tried to intimidate Michael Cohen?

 

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Just months into a cooperation agreement with special counsel Robert Mueller, former national security adviser Michael Flynn sent an unsolicited text message to one of President Donald Trump's top allies in Congress, urging him to "keep the pressure on."

 

"You stay on top of what you're doing. Your leadership is so vital for our country now," Flynn wrote to Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.), one of Congress' most vocal critics of the Mueller investigation. "Keep the pressure on."

 

POLITICO confirmed the details of the exchange, first reported by CNN, which came in April 2018, just five months into Flynn's cooperation agreement with Mueller. Flynn began assisting Mueller's probe after a Dec. 1, 2017 guilty plea on charges that he made false statements to the FBI about contacts with Russia's ambassador.

 

Flynn sent Gaetz a separate set of messages on Feb. 14, 2019, the day Attorney General William Barr was confirmed: images of a bald eagle and an American flag. Gaetz confirmed the substance of the messages and said he didn't reply. He also emphasized he had no past relationship with Flynn or his son, Michael Flynn Jr.

 

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Trump has such good luck with this kind of legal argument in front of a judge. Let's see how this one plays out.

 

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In the first court hearing over President Trump’s border wall funding plan, administration lawyers on Friday vigorously pressed their controversial argument that Congress did not in fact deny him the money when lawmakers excluded it from the appropriations bill they enacted in February.

To bar spending, Deputy Assistant Attorney General James M. Burnham told a federal judge here, Congress would have had to explicitly say that “no money shall be obligated” in any form to construct a barrier along the U.S.-Mexico border. Having failed to do that, Burnham argued, the administration is free to tap funds never intended for border security .

“That just cannot be right,” responded Douglas Letter, general counsel for the House of Representatives, which participated as amicus in the case brought by nearly two dozen states and the Sierra Club, an environmental advocacy group. They are challenging Trump’s national emergency declaration to redirect taxpayer money for the wall. The House has filed a separate suit in Washington, D.C. “No money may be spent unless Congress actually appropriates it,” he said.

Letter likened the situation to that of an underage teenager who requires his mother’s signature to join the Army — but she wants him to go to college instead. “He says, ‘Mom, you can just sign this form?’ And mom walks out of the room” instead of signing it.

“Nobody can say that’s not a denial,” Letter said. This is exactly what Congress did when it balked at Trump’s request for more than $4 billion for the border wall beyond the $1.375 billion it did appropriate, he added.

 

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Oh, yeah, did I mention that Trump lost another DACA case?
 

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A federal appeals court ruled Friday the Trump administration acted in an "arbitrary and capricious" manner when it sought to end an Obama-era program that shields young immigrants from deportation.

A three-judge panel of the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled 2 to 1 that the Trump administration violated federal law when it tried to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program without adequately explaining why. The ruling overturns a lower court ruling a judge in Maryland made last year, which Trump had previously praised via Twitter.

Friday's ruling will not have any immediate effect as other federal courts have already ordered that DACA be kept in place.

The 4th Circuit ruling said the Department of Homeland Security did not "adequately account" for how ending DACA program would affect the hundreds of thousands of young people who "structured their lives" around the program.

 

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17 hours ago, jeremytwo said:

 

Hard to say if this will be substantiated or widely reported in the coming days, but whether it is true or not, Hunter Biden will be a liability for his father's campaign based on his past adventures. 

 

His appointment to the main Ukrainian Gas company board and $50k per month remuneration are troublesome.   His management of the Rosemont Seneca investments in China along with the stepson of John Kerry looks like petty corruption.    For the people who don't focus on policy at all, he dated his deceased brother's widow and was discharged from the reserves for a positive drug test.    

 

Joe Biden is currently the frontrunner for the Dems, but I don't think he will last very long in that position.    

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