Politics Gen XYZ

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7 hours ago, dessa_dangerous said:

Hello, please stop accusing each other of being alts.  If you really think someone is abusing or gaming the system, report it, and we will look into it.

If nothing happens immediately, we have either decided it's OK for now, or we're still looking into it. 

 

Thanks.

 

Thanks for explaining that.

 

Best Regards,

 

The poster formerly referred to as "alt-bicus"    😇

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4 hours ago, keith2011 said:

Just curious to know why you have edited your original longer warning?

 

I don't envy you, curiosity can drive a person mad.

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Judge rebukes GOP for downplaying US Capitol riot as he hands out first sentence in insurrection

 

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A Trump supporter who spent 10 minutes inside the US Capitol during the January 6 insurrection was sentenced to probation Wednesday, avoiding jail, becoming the first rioter to learn their punishment in the riot investigation.

At a hearing in DC federal court, Judge Royce Lamberth said the insurrection was a "disgrace" and forcefully rebuked the "utter nonsense" coming from some Republican lawmakers and other right-wing figures who are whitewashing what happened.

"I don't know what planet they were on," Lamberth said of the GOP lawmakers, without mentioning any names. Recent releases of videos from the attack "will show the attempt of some congressman to rewrite history that these were tourists walking through the capitol is utter nonsense."

 

It's getting harder and harder to be a fascist in the US.

 

Good.

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Speaking of it getting harder to be a fascist in the US, Rudy Giuliani has been suspended from practicing law in New York.

 

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Rudy Giuliani has been suspended from practicing law in the state of New York due to his false statements about the 2020 election, according to a court filing.

Driving the news: A New York court ruled that Giuliani made "demonstrably false and misleading statements to courts, lawmakers and the public at large in his capacity as lawyer for former President Donald J. Trump."

  • "These false statements were made to improperly bolster respondent’s narrative that due to widespread voter fraud, victory in the 2020 United States presidential election was stolen from his client," the court wrote.
  • "We conclude that respondent’s conduct immediately threatens the public interest and warrants interim suspension from the practice of law, pending further proceedings before the Attorney Grievance Committee."

 

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23 hours ago, AlexTr said:

Judge rebukes GOP for downplaying US Capitol riot as he hands out first sentence in insurrection

 

 

It's getting harder and harder to be a fascist in the US.

 

Good.

 

What ever happened to these people who descended on the Capitol in 2018?  

 

Nearly 300 protesters were arrested at a US Senate building on Thursday afternoon as crowds of activists descended on Capitol Hill while lawmakers reviewed the FBI's report on the allegations against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh.

 

Protesters gathered in the Hart Senate Building atrium after US Capitol Police barricaded the front of the Capitol.
In a statement, US Capitol Police communications director Eva Malecki said that at about 3:30 p.m., 293 people were arrested for unlawfully demonstrating.
 
Malecki added that around 5:20 p.m., police responded to reports of more demonstrations in the Dirksen Senate Office Building and arrested nine more people for crowding, obstructing or incommoding.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/04/politics/kavanaugh-protests-us-capitol/index.html

 

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Were it not for the refusal of the Joint Chiefs, the US would have had Kent State incidents in every corner of the nation.

 

Top US general rejected Trump suggestions military should 'crack skulls' during protests last year, new book claims

 

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"That's how you're supposed to handle these people," Trump told his top law enforcement and military officials, according to Bender. "Crack their skulls!"

Trump also told his team that he wanted the military to go in and "beat the f--k out" of the civil rights protesters, Bender writes.

"Just shoot them," Trump said on multiple occasions inside the Oval Office, according to the excerpts.

When Milley and then-Attorney General William Barr would push back, Trump toned it down, but only slightly, Bender adds.

"Well, shoot them in the leg—or maybe the foot," Trump said. "But be hard on them!"

The new details about how Milley and a handful of other senior officials were forced to confront Trump's increasingly volatile behavior during the final months of his presidency only add to an already detailed portrait of dysfunction inside the White House at that time.

It also underscores the level of tension between Trump and top Pentagon officials leading up to the presidential election last November.

 

If you don't know what the Kent State incident is:

 

1) You don't know much about the history of protest in the US.

2) Google is your friend. I didn't take you to raise.

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Kent State occurred

31 minutes ago, AlexTr said:

...2) Google is your friend. I didn't take you to raise.

Excellent observation!

 

Kent State occurred 50 years ago. It's not surprising that even the parents of people we know have no idea what happened. But they should.

 

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From "Ohio",  Neil Young song

 

Tin soldiers and Nixon coming,
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming,
Four dead in Ohio.
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39 minutes ago, katheliz said:

Kent State occurred

Excellent observation!

 

Kent State occurred 50 years ago. It's not surprising that even the parents of people we know have no idea what happened. But they should.

 

 

My uncle was a student at Kent State and was at the protest when it happened. Any American Boomer or Gen Xer who doesn't know about it is purposely ignorant. Any non-American can use Google.

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9 minutes ago, AlexTr said:

Any American Boomer or Gen Xer who doesn't know about it is purposely ignorant.

 

Or woefully undereducated.

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Was having a chat with some people about Rudy's suspension and she reminded me that it can be just temporary. Then I asked her, who the hell would hire him to which she responded, the Pillow Guy.

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"Trump's biggest accomplishments and failures from his 1-term presidency"

 

"Former President Donald Trump was among the most controversial presidents in US history. He's the only American president to be impeached twice. 

Trump's legacy will be defined by his disastrous handling of COVID-19."

 

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Former President Donald Trump entered 2020 as just the third commander-in-chief in US history to be impeached, and left office in 2021 as the only president to be impeached twice. 

 

With just a week left in office, Trump was impeached for inciting a violent insurrection at the US Capitol. 

 

During his final year as president, hundreds of thousands of Americans died from a pandemic that Trump deliberately downplayed to the public. 

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Accomplishment: Tax reform

 

Trump's signature legislative achievement was a Republican tax bill that made sweeping changes to the tax code — the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.

 

The law was the biggest overhaul to the nation's tax code in three decades, and the president pitched it as "rocket fuel" for the American economy.

It permanently slashed the corporate tax rate to 21% from 35% while also providing temporary benefits for individuals and their families.

 

Critics argued it was a windfall for massive corporations at the expense of the middle class. Meanwhile, supporters of the tax cuts contended it would unleash an economic bonanza. Businesses would invest in their operations, they said, resulting in improved worker productivity and higher wages.

 

Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin, among others, said the law would juice the nation's gross domestic product to 3% (or more, as Trump said 6%) and soon pay for itself and spread prosperity.

 

But the law has achieved none of the ambitious goals that Republicans put forward — and there are scant signs they ever will.

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Failure: America's global image is in shambles

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Failure: Iran, Syria, and Afghanistan

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Failure: Replacing the Affordable Care Act (aka Obamacare)

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Failure: Impeachment

 

Trump was impeached in the House of Representatives on December 18, 2019.

 

The House approved two articles of impeachment against Trump, one for abuse of power over his dealings with Ukraine and one for obstruction of Congress over his efforts to stonewall the impeachment inquiry.

 

Trump urged Ukraine to launch investigations into his political rivals as he simultaneously withheld about $400 million in congressionally approved military aid from the country, which is fighting an ongoing war against pro-Russian separatists.

 

The former president was acquitted in a Senate trial, but will still go down as just the third president in US history to be impeached. GOP Sen. Mitt Romney of Utah also made history by voting to convict Trump, marking the first time ever that a senator voted to convict a president from their own party.

 

On January 6, 2021, Trump provoked an attempted coup at the US Capitol in relation to his baseless claims of mass voter fraud and refusal to concede to Biden. Five people were killed. 

 

Trump was impeached by the House for inciting a violent insurrection over the Capitol riot. He's the only president in US history to be impeached twice. 

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Failure: COVID-19 pandemic

 

Trump's handling of the COVID-19 pandemic will likely go down as one of the biggest disasters in US history. Hundreds of thousands of Americans have died, and millions are unemployed.

 

On the day Trump left office, there had been more than 24.3 million confirmed COVID-19 cases in the US and over 405,000 reported fatalities. The US has the worst coronavirus outbreak in the world.

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Failure: The US economy

Trump often took credit for the robust US economy before the pandemic, ignoring that much of the growth began during the Obama administration.

The US faced one of the worst economic crises in its history under Trump, which was intrinsically linked to his disastrous response to the COVID-19 pandemic.

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Failure: Contracting COVID-19

 

As the president of the US, Trump is the most heavily protected person on the planet. The fact he contracted COVID-19 in October 2020 stood as a catastrophic failure and a national-security crisis for the US.

 

The president routinely flouted public health recommendations before getting infected. Less than a week before he was diagnosed, Trump mocked then-presidential candidate Joe Biden for routinely wearing a mask in public.

 

Top public health experts have repeatedly urged Americans to wear a mask or face covering, touting the practice as the best tool available in fighting the virus.

 

Trump was diagnosed with COVID-19 just days after essentially holding a super-spreader event in the Rose Garden at the White House to announce his Supreme Court nominee. Attendees did not socially distance, and many were seen without masks.

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Failure: Damaging democracy

 

Trump eroded democratic norms in many ways during his tenure. 

 

He repeatedly attacked the media, leading UN experts to warn that Trump's rhetoric raised the risk of violence against journalists. He threatened to deploy combat troops to American cities, over the objections of their elected leaders, and ordered illegal actions like demanding poll workers stop counting ballots.

 

 

More https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-biggest-accomplishments-and-failures-heading-into-2020-2019-12#failure-damaging-democracy-15

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