Germans infertile?

[Techsmex 13,360]

May be a stretch, but perhaps shooting blanks could be linked back to the Germans shame of their Nazi past.. Schuldige schlaffigkeit?

 

[klubbnika 1,308]

34 minutes ago, Techsmex said:

May be a stretch, but perhaps shooting blanks could be linked back to the Germans shame of their Nazi past.. Schuldige schlaffigkeit?

 

Not only a stretch but outright stupid.

[Techsmex 13,360]

ouch!   why don't you just say what's on your mind?  or perhaps not.. coming from someone who uses the term 'retarded' in their posts, I don't think I'll take your comments too seriously

[cb6dba 7,318]

14 hours ago, klubbnika said:

Exactly what "pfoof" would you like to see from me?

 

I was talking about things in comparative perspective. Of course Germany is much more advanced than most of the countries in the world.

But then there are countries where Germany is considered retarded in this particular area, that is seen from those countries' perspective.

Stuff that backs up what you say. You made a rather general statement, you need to show evidence to back it up.

 

If you can ask, you can provide. 

[J0ker 2,392]

19 hours ago, Techsmex said:

May be a stretch, but perhaps shooting blanks could be linked back to the Germans shame of their Nazi past.. Schuldige schlaffigkeit?

 

If that's true then that's pathetic.

[desdemona 1,412]

My German husband and I have no problem in making children. Now at three kids our problem is to stop making one! 

[yourkeau 7,719]

22 hours ago, Techsmex said:

May be a stretch, but perhaps shooting blanks could be linked back to the Germans shame of their Nazi past.. Schuldige schlaffigkeit?

 

 

2 hours ago, J0ker said:

If that's true then that's pathetic.

 

What about UFO?

[zeino 692]

Unidentified fertile object? 

[klubbnika 1,308]

21 hours ago, cb6dba said:

Stuff that backs up what you say. You made a rather general statement, you need to show evidence to back it up.

 

If you can ask, you can provide. 

Once again, I did not make a general statement.

I described a perspective. Do you want a proof that that perspective exists?

[yourkeau 7,719]

See, klubbnika, how it feels when your methods are applied to you. Pathetic, isn't it?

 

Was Frankreich und Schweden besser machen

[Long Island Duckling 115]

My German husband and I are childless.  Not by choice.  We tried for many years to have a baby.  We also did 5 IVF treatments here in Munich.  Sadly, nothing helped.

 

The infertility was more my husband´s "fault" at first for shooting blanks, but after a few years of trying and treatment I also became categorized as "old", so my fault as well.  I guess meeting and marrying in our 30s was just too late for us to have children.

 

Not being able to have children but wanting them is very, very sad.  No idea if I´ll ever be fine with it.  Every day I mourn the life I wish I could have had.  It hurts.

 

I don´t know if my husband´s infertility has to do with where he grew up in southern Germany, close to a nuclear power plant near Ulm.  The people of the area where he comes from have a much higher rate of cancer than elsewhere.

[cb6dba 7,318]

7 hours ago, klubbnika said:

Once again, I did not make a general statement.

I described a perspective. Do you want a proof that that perspective exists?

Oh we are wiggling now...

Please take all my future posts to be perspective based.. Even if they seem to include facts, just assume it is a perspective and go look up things for yourself should you be interested.

[klubbnika 1,308]

9 minutes ago, cb6dba said:

Oh we are wiggling now...

Please take all my future posts to be perspective based.. Even if they seem to include facts, just assume it is a perspective and go look up things for yourself should you be interested.

Are you trying to get back at me for asking you for a proof in another thread that you were not able to provide?

 

You need to learn how to identify the factual essense of a statement.

If you go back and read my post again, I claimed that there is a perspective in which Germany is considered lagging behind in terms of gender equality. Then I described the contents of that perspective.

I can provide you proof for that claim. Is that what you want?

 

[cb6dba 7,318]

1 minute ago, klubbnika said:

Are you trying to get back on me for asking you for a proof in another thread?

 

You need to learn how to identify the factual essense of a statement.

If you go back and read my post again, I claimed that there is a perspective in which Germany is considered lagging behind in temrs of gender equality. Then I described the contents of that perspective.

I can provide you proof for that claim. Is that what you want?

 

I think I will just take this as being a perspective of yours.

[RedMidge 6,638]

3 hours ago, Long Island Duckling said:

My German husband and I are childless.  Not by choice.  We tried for many years to have a baby.  We also did 5 IVF treatments here in Munich.  Sadly, nothing helped.

 

The infertility was more my husband´s "fault" at first for shooting blanks, but after a few years of trying and treatment I also became categorized as "old", so my fault as well.  I guess meeting and marrying in our 30s was just too late for us to have children.

 

Not being able to have children but wanting them is very, very sad.  No idea if I´ll ever be fine with it.  Every day I mourn the life I wish I could have had.  It hurts.

 

I don´t know if my husband´s infertility has to do with where he grew up in southern Germany, close to a nuclear power plant near Ulm.  The people of the area where he comes from have a much higher rate of cancer than elsewhere.

Sorry to hear you are mourning  your childless state. It is a very real grief and sometimes  counselling can help.  I am not saying you  will not still mourn, but it may help you get through the stages and  cope with some acceptance.

 

[More tea, Vicar? 1,128]

4 hours ago, Long Island Duckling said:

My German husband and I are childless.  Not by choice.  We tried for many years to have a baby.  We also did 5 IVF treatments here in Munich.  Sadly, nothing helped.

 

The infertility was more my husband´s "fault" at first for shooting blanks, but after a few years of trying and treatment I also became categorized as "old", so my fault as well.  I guess meeting and marrying in our 30s was just too late for us to have children.

 

Not being able to have children but wanting them is very, very sad.  No idea if I´ll ever be fine with it.  Every day I mourn the life I wish I could have had.  It hurts.

 

I don´t know if my husband´s infertility has to do with where he grew up in southern Germany, close to a nuclear power plant near Ulm.  The people of the area where he comes from have a much higher rate of cancer than elsewhere.

 

 

That is a sad story LID, thanks for sharing.  I understand IVF is awful.

 

You are in the perfect position to give an educational answer to the following (ignorant) basic question:

 

Did you adopt, and if not, why not?

[J0ker 2,392]

4 hours ago, Long Island Duckling said:

My German husband and I are childless.  Not by choice.  We tried for many years to have a baby.  We also did 5 IVF treatments here in Munich.  Sadly, nothing helped.

 

The infertility was more my husband´s "fault" at first for shooting blanks, but after a few years of trying and treatment I also became categorized as "old", so my fault as well.  I guess meeting and marrying in our 30s was just too late for us to have children.

 

Not being able to have children but wanting them is very, very sad.  No idea if I´ll ever be fine with it.  Every day I mourn the life I wish I could have had.  It hurts.

 

I don´t know if my husband´s infertility has to do with where he grew up in southern Germany, close to a nuclear power plant near Ulm.  The people of the area where he comes from have a much higher rate of cancer than elsewhere.

I'm really sorry for your situation.  Your post really touched me and you have my sympathy.  There may be something to your last paragraph because NRW and particularly Cologne is full of heavy industry all concentrated very close to residential areas and I've noticed that a lot of people here have the same problem.  We had trouble buying a house because we avoided so many areas that are close to oil refineries or steel mills.

[cb6dba 7,318]

5 hours ago, Long Island Duckling said:

My German husband and I are childless.  Not by choice.  We tried for many years to have a baby.  We also did 5 IVF treatments here in Munich.  Sadly, nothing helped.

 

The infertility was more my husband´s "fault" at first for shooting blanks, but after a few years of trying and treatment I also became categorized as "old", so my fault as well.  I guess meeting and marrying in our 30s was just too late for us to have children.

 

Not being able to have children but wanting them is very, very sad.  No idea if I´ll ever be fine with it.  Every day I mourn the life I wish I could have had.  It hurts.

 

I don´t know if my husband´s infertility has to do with where he grew up in southern Germany, close to a nuclear power plant near Ulm.  The people of the area where he comes from have a much higher rate of cancer than elsewhere.

This post made me very sad...

[yourkeau 7,719]

5 hours ago, Long Island Duckling said:

I don´t know if my husband´s infertility has to do with where he grew up in southern Germany, close to a nuclear power plant near Ulm.  The people of the area where he comes from have a much higher rate of cancer than elsewhere.

Sorry for your situation, this is really terrible, and the God is very unfair: those who do not want children, have to make abortions, those who do want children, cannot have them.

 

No, I don't think there is any strong correlation between living near nuclear power plant and infertility. I was born near nuclear power plant and grew up there. Everyone had enough children in our area. I also know a couple of people who were born in an area which was dirty enough to qualify as „polluted“ after Tschernbyl nuclear disaster but not dirty enough to be evacuated. Yes, you are correct, that radiation increases the risk of cancer and strong radiation resulting from accidents also can result in genetic diseases for children (although none of people I know were sick, but their children still can be) and grandchildren (radiation causes irreversible DNA mutations which can be traced in many generations), but AFAIK it doesn't affect fertility.

[fraufruit 41,963]

I knew a guy from Munich who was infertile because he got the measles when he was 13. His extremely wealthy parents didn't have him inoculated. There can be multiple reasons for male and female infertility.