Fake medicines in Germany

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I went to the pharmacy to buy a medicine I have to pay for personally (almost 100 Euros), then was asked for carriage cost on top (special order). I thought "maybe online" and left without it.

 

I was quite surprised to find that a "fake medicines in Germany" internet search brought up quite a lot about this. Yes, they're here and were or (if everthing I read is true) very probably still are in the supply lines. China, Bangladesh and India were mentioned. Also sth about some pharmacists here allegedly having made their own medicines (for sale) from bought-in ingredients.

 

A friend who works at a hospital subsequently told me that internet pharmacies in Germany aren't allowed. I'd already found a number that apparently sell what I need at a worthwhile saving, so this seemed to be contradictory info and  I thought "fake websites???". I don't think I'm being paranoid; these days a lot is possible. There are people out there who are far, far cleverer than me.

 

My friend also mentioned Doc Morris, in the Netherlands, but I see they also have a de. site. Can any pharmacy guarantee that no fake medicine reaches their shelves? Buying medicine is first and foremost a matter of getting the right product (more important than getting it cheaply) and of course there are the words "trust" and likelihood"

 

Perhaps there's no good answer. People sometimes ask online "Is it safe to visit xyz city (or region)?" Inevitably someone will say "I went there and nothing happened to me." Fair enough but that doesn't mean danger doesn't exist. Indeed, travelling to that place may be very risky etc. according to others and to statistics.

 

So what about  buying medicines online  in Germany? Any thoughts, please, about this?

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Online pharmacies are allowed. However you won't save that much. Maybe 10 euro or something. 

 

If you are a buying cheap crap, you should not be surprised that this medicine will be fake. If you are buying from abroad, your medicine will be confiscated by the Zoll.

 

Why don't you visit the doctor? Prescription drugs are covered by your insurance.

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It depends whether the medicine you require is available with or without prescription.  All genuine online pharmacies won't sell medication that is prescription only though you can send them your prescription and often pay less than local pharmacies. I've  used docmorris and medpex without problems.  Docmorris offers something like 5€ off your first prescription order. 

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Why don't you visit the doctor? Prescription drugs are covered by your insurance. (yourkeau)

 

Not all medicines are covered by (my) insurance. My doctor has advised me (prescribed, if you like) this medicine but I have to pay for it myself.

 

- according to a study52 carried out by the European Alliance for Access to Safe Medicines, 62% of medicines
bought on the internet are counterfeits (50% according to the WHO).

 

The full report can be accessed here:

http://www.iracm.com/en/online-pharmacies-the-legal-uncertainties-finally-lifted/

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This article confirms this about fake medicines, but it also advices what to do:

http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/medizin/gefaelschte-arzneimittel-lebensgefahr-durch-illegale-onlineapotheken-a-838228.html

 

The list of all legal online pharmacies is here:

http://www.dimdi.de/static/de/amg/versandhandel/haendler/index.htm

 

So, just buy only from those on the list.

 

DIMDI also allows to look for a similar drug from different producers:

https://portal.dimdi.de/festbetragsrecherche/

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5 hours ago, popotla said:

Why don't you visit the doctor? Prescription drugs are covered by your insurance. (yourkeau)

 

Not all medicines are covered by (my) insurance. My doctor has advised me (prescribed, if you like) this medicine but I have to pay for it myself.

 

- according to a study52 carried out by the European Alliance for Access to Safe Medicines, 62% of medicines
bought on the internet are counterfeits (50% according to the WHO).

 

The full report can be accessed here:

http://www.iracm.com/en/online-pharmacies-the-legal-uncertainties-finally-lifted/

If your German doctor has advised you then he/she can give you an official private prescription that you should be able to obtain from any local or online Apotheke. These can take an extra day or so to obtain.  I would  advise you to go through the official channels to obtain medication to avoid any possibility of counterfeits. 

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If your German doctor has advised you then he/she can give you an official private prescription that you should be able to obtain from any local or online Apotheke. These can take an extra day or so to obtain.  I would  advise you to go through the official channels to obtain medication to avoid any possibility of counterfeits.

 

Am I right in thinking that in "official channels" you include online pharmacies believed to be legit, such as Docmorris?

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I would be curious to know which medication this is. Is it something you have been taking before?  Did your MD say, ok you can take it , but that is not covered by Kasse here? Is there an alternative that the Kasse will cover?

There are usually several drugs that  will perform the same action.

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3 hours ago, popotla said:

If your German doctor has advised you then he/she can give you an official private prescription that you should be able to obtain from any local or online Apotheke. These can take an extra day or so to obtain.  I would  advise you to go through the official channels to obtain medication to avoid any possibility of counterfeits.

 

Am I right in thinking that in "official channels" you include online pharmacies believed to be legit, such as Docmorris?

Docmorris is definitely legit and has actual shops as does easyapotheke.  

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2 hours ago, emkay said:

Docmorris is definitely legit and has actual shops as does easyapotheke.  

I doubt that the internet pharmacy docmorris is the same legal entity running the "shops" (any German pharmacist would cringe if you called his pharmacy a shop) as any given pharmacist is only allowed to own a maximum of 3 pharmacies. Actually I´m curious how they solved that problem. They are both legitimate though as oterwise they couldn´t accept public health care prescriptions.

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1 hour ago, jeba said:

I doubt that the internet pharmacy docmorris is the same legal entity running the "shops" (any German pharmacist would cringe if you called his pharmacy a shop) as any given pharmacist is only allowed to own a maximum of 3 pharmacies. Actually I´m curious how they solved that problem. They are both legitimate though as oterwise they couldn´t accept public health care prescriptions.

At insomnia o'clock, I couldn't find the right term for bricks and mortar, high street, real pharmacist human etc.  ;) Most are shops nowadays with a pharmacy.

 

I believe the group stores (docmorris, easyapotheke etc) are like franchises.

 

 

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1 hour ago, fraufruit said:

No matter the source, Viagra is pretty expensive everywhere.

Having said this, it is available on prescription for certain diseases.

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fake news from fraufruit

Instead of spreading prejudices you should have used google:

Sildenafil (100mg) 12 tablets:27€

                               48 tablets:80€

The patent expired.

 

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I was actually only teasing the OP for not telling us the med in question. And it is truly none of our business.

 

I only remember back it the day when Viagra was 10 bucks per pill. 

 

ATL42, you personal knowledge is admirable. :rolleyes:

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I would be curious to know which medication this is. Is it something you have been taking before? It's Arthrobonum. First time.

 

 Did your MD say, ok you can take it , but that is not covered by Kasse here? Yes.

 

Is there an alternative that the Kasse will cover? Not that I know. But I have no reason to suppose that the doctor is being (what I would call) unethical by failing to write a Kasse prescription for me if that were possible, rather than a private one.

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