Brexit: The fallout

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Who is he, then?

 

He looks like some homeless ruffian what with his black eye! 

 

2 minutes ago, yesterday said:

 

O dear

 

 

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Yeah I watched that earlier. Phil Moorhouse really cuts through the Brexiteer bullshit.

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6 minutes ago, yesterday said:

Professional and friendly presentation

 

Professional?  He looks hungover what with his unkempt look and red eyes! 

 

Anyway, did he mention anything about how the 4th IR is going to render most of these truck drivers useless due to self driving vehicles? 

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Awww, fucking hell, here we go again. 

 

Another Remoaner meltdown coming! 

 

Someone start the popcorn machine, please. 

 

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Really sad how the fishermen have been sold down the river by Johnson

 

The Observer view on Boris Johnson’s role in the fishing row | Observer editorial | The Guardian

 

Let’s be clear. Boris Johnson gives not a fig for fish or fishers. From Cornwall to Scotland, Britain’s fisheries, which he vowed to protect, are being laid waste by his deceitful, damaging Brexit deal.

This same disastrous policy is imperilling Jersey’s fishers, whose access to traditional markets in France and beyond is obstructed by a seawall of paperwork. Far from making them captains of their fate, Brexit is sinking them fast.

 

and yet, the fishermen, still do not see the self damage they have voted for, or are maybe to embarrassed to admit it.

 

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27 minutes ago, yesterday said:

hey Murph, who does this remind you off 

 

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Such a picture of competent government, looks strong, looks intelligent, looks like the kind of guy you can trust.
And his actions back this up 310%... 

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1 minute ago, yesterday said:

Really sad how the fishermen have been sold down the river by Johnson

 

The Observer view on Boris Johnson’s role in the fishing row | Observer editorial | The Guardian

 

Let’s be clear. Boris Johnson gives not a fig for fish or fishers. From Cornwall to Scotland, Britain’s fisheries, which he vowed to protect, are being laid waste by his deceitful, damaging Brexit deal.

This same disastrous policy is imperilling Jersey’s fishers, whose access to traditional markets in France and beyond is obstructed by a seawall of paperwork. Far from making them captains of their fate, Brexit is sinking them fast.

 

and yet, the fishermen, still do not see the self damage they have voted for, or are maybe to embarrassed to admit it.

 

Pretty obvious to anyone with a brain.

Some people don't have one though.

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2 minutes ago, yesterday said:

Really sad how the fishermen have been sold down the river by Johnson

 

This same disastrous policy is imperilling Jersey’s fishers, whose access to traditional markets in France and beyond is obstructed by a seawall of paperwork. Far from making them captains of their fate, Brexit is sinking them fast.

 

Imperiling Jersey's fishers? 

 

That would be the French boats who are unable to show any fishing history and are, therefore, having problems getting a license.  Why would the French boats either have no AIS or turn their AIS off and have no history? Would it be cynical of me to say illegal fishing and over fishing?

 

So, @yesterday, French fishing is the problem and they were caught red handed, and, in typical French fashion, they have started crying. 

 

Jersey gives French fishermen more time in licence row  (BBC, 11.05.21)

 

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Jersey has granted French fishermen more time to meet its new rules in a bid to solve a fishing licence dispute.

The extension until 1 July is a sign of "good faith" that the row over France's post-Brexit rights can be solved, the Government of Jersey said.

French authorities in Normandy have also lifted a ban on Jersey fishermen landing their catches in its ports.

 

The fishermen were protesting against post-Brexit rules which require French boats to show they have a history of fishing in Jersey's waters.

French authorities claimed these additional requirements were added without notice.

 

 

The Jersey authorities have given the French boats an extension and the French government have stopped playing silly buggers. Christ only knows why the French Skippers couldn't get their arses in gear and get this sorted before. 

 

16 minutes ago, yesterday said:

Let’s be clear. Boris Johnson gives not a fig for fish or fishers. From Cornwall to Scotland, Britain’s fisheries, which he vowed to protect, are being laid waste by his deceitful, damaging Brexit deal.

 

Scotland, you say?

 

Failure to strike UK-Norway fishing deal ‘brings long-awaited end to past practice’, local chief says (Shetland News, 30.04.21)

 

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The lack of a deal means UK fleets will not have access to Norway’s sub-Arctic seas, and Norwegian vessels won’t be able to fish in UK waters.

But in Shetland, the news that the countries are not continuing past agreements has been welcomed.

Collins said that “in practical terms, Norway’s loss of access to our waters this year will remove a substantial presence of their pelagic fleet during the autumn mackerel fishery in particular”.

 

SFA chairman and whitefish skipper James Anderson added that the inability of Norwegian vessels to fish for demersal stocks in the UK zone would lift the pressure of a highly active gillnet and longliner fleet to the east of Shetland.

 

“We are convinced that mutually advantageous annual agreements on access and quota transfers can be struck with Norway in the future,” he said.

“But Norway has to understand that we are not going to cave in, [European] Commission-style, to the detriment of Scottish businesses. It is far better to make that clear at the outset, and we are glad that this has been done.

 

23 minutes ago, yesterday said:

Really sad how the fishermen have been sold down the river by Johnson and yet, the fishermen, still do not see the self damage they have voted for, or are maybe to embarrassed to admit it.

 

Or, it could be that you have no clue about what you are talking about. 

 

 

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I'm sure embarrassment plays a big role in why the fishermen aren't more vocal. They would need to admit that they fell for the con. It's human nature I suppose.

 

Johnson doesn't really care about anything. He's an empty vessel, devoid of the normal traits we like to see in people.

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MPs agree – Brexit deal did not deliver 'frictionless' trade

AFTER FOUR months of pain for Scotland's fresh meat and seafood exporters, a cross party Westminster committee has officially confirmed what they already know – the UK government's Brexit deal did not deliver 'frictionless' trade with the European Union.

 

Scotland Food and Drink has welcomed the report – compiled by by the House of Commons Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee – as ‘hugely significant’, not least because it backed SFD's own call for the UK government to get back to the negotiating table with the EU and reach a new agreement on veterinary certification. As things stood, said SFD, arrangements at the border with the EU were 'unworkable and hugely damaging' to business viability.

 

https://www.thescottishfarmer.co.uk/news/19287031.mps-agree---brexit-deal-not-deliver-frictionless-trade/?ref=twtrec

 

Unfortunately whilst I feel sympathy for these people, "getting back to the negotiating table" is pie in the sky for now.

 

The friction at the border is as a result of the UK's decision to exit the single market and customs union. Unless they are prepared to rejoin (or more precisely, apply to rejoin) both of those things, then the friction will remain. The single market is the main destroyer of friction but freedom of movement is required and there are still way too many furious gammons to see that imposed, even by the back door. Brexit needs to do a bit more damage first.

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9 hours ago, hellfire99 said:

Christ only knows why the French Skippers couldn't get their arses in gear and get this sorted before. 

Yet funnily enough in your Brexiteers mind it was perfectly fine when the UK govt didn`t sort any sort of custom checks out and left many UK firms floundering.

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I think the main problem is that two of the foundational values of the EU are reciprocity and equality. BoJo and the preceding generations of posh, pig-fucking Eton lads never believed in equality (because they're better than everyone else) and thought they had no need for reciprocity because the EU needed the UK more than the UK needed the EU.

 

Either that or they have no idea what either concept really means. But hey, you got blue passports (made in France) and get to boast about "taking back control". Just let us know when those £350,000,000/week show up for the NHS.

 

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UK’s services sector starts to count the real cost of Brexit. Although they account for 80 per cent of the economy, services were rarely a priority in the negotiations over leaving the EU

 

https://www.ft.com/content/d0c10195-0e2e-4913-af74-3b7057163e3f?segmentID=0052c4bc-c54e-19c6-b165-8800c56b8254&twclid=11392167424494116871&fbclid=IwAR0mp7dlqU0q2U4YzMydjNkZVo1oE2-B7NjlLE0CZjWkg08TV7yXtY9A_HI

 

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1 hour ago, murphaph said:

The friction at the border is as a result of the UK's decision to exit the single market and customs union. Unless they are prepared to rejoin (or more precisely, apply to rejoin) both of those things, then the friction will remain. The single market is the main destroyer of friction but freedom of movement is required and there are still way too many furious gammons to see that imposed, even by the back door. Brexit needs to do a bit more damage first.

 

Guys, Elvis has left the building! 

 

Brexit has happened. Please accept that and move on!

 

UK economy picks up as lockdown restrictions ease  (BBC, 12.05.21)

 

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Official trade figures published at the same time showed a shift away from EU countries since Brexit.

"Imports from Europe remained sluggish in the first three months of the year, being outstripped by non-EU imports for the first time on record," said Mr Morgan.

The ONS said the total trade deficit, excluding precious metals, narrowed by £8.4bn to £1.4bn.

 

Looks like friction has caused a drop in exports to the UK, Murphy. 

 

The UK is getting on with dealing with the rest of the world whilst the EU acts like a jilted lover. 

 

11 hours ago, hellfire99 said:

Christ only knows why the French Skippers couldn't get their arses in gear and get this sorted before. 

 

1 hour ago, Keleth said:

Yet funnily enough in your Brexiteers mind it was perfectly fine when the UK govt didn`t sort any sort of custom checks out and left many UK firms floundering.

 

I've no idea how your point relates to my assertion that French fishermen failed to apply for licenses in a timely manner. 

 

1 hour ago, El Jeffo said:

... of posh, pig-fucking Eton lads ... the EU needed the UK more than the UK needed the EU... blue passports (made in France)..."taking back control"... £350,000,000/week..

 

Jeff, can you show us on dolly where Brexit touched you? 

 

That was a right old rant, wasn't it, Jeff! 

 

:lol:

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It's all this winning we have been hearing about.

If I were a brexit supporter I would just resort to making noise in the hope someone quotes me. Must be lonely being so wrong you have to bend you head 180 degrees to allow yourself to think you were right. 

 

Then again, the level of intellect involved in that would just come up being right to not be left handed.

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2 hours ago, Keleth said:

Yet funnily enough in your Brexiteers mind it was perfectly fine when the UK govt didn`t sort any sort of custom checks out and left many UK firms floundering.

You are talking about a bunch of people that have to play checkers against themselves to have a chance of winning. 

Even then they give one side an extra move each time, you know, just to make sure. Probably do the same playing solitaire.

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2 minutes ago, cb6dba said:

Then gain, the level of intellect involved in that would just come up being right to not be left handed.

 

What does that even mean?

 

:lol:

 

 

 

 

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