Brexit: The fallout

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9 minutes ago, john g. said:

https://www.johngunn.ie/

Ha! My namesake in Dublin! Maybe somewhere  in Ireland is an unknown relative I could chase up and somehow one day get an Irish passport!

I have ( had ) Scottish and Welsh grandparents, throw in a Socialist Republic of Yorkshire mum and I could be spoilt for choice for future passports!

If I last that long!😂

 

I'm wondering if any of your wives had interesting passports that you potentially could have claimed :lol:

 

Not saying that you are the Henry VIII of Toytown, John... :P

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Actually, I still have an official Brazilian ID card!! Must admit I look a bit younger on it than now!😂

AND I once watched a Rick  Wakeman concert at the Maracana Stadium when he played his album the Six Wives of Henry VIII😂

 

The album:

https://youtu.be/aDuBhDzjYyI

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@john g. I was worried for a moment that you were going to say Rick Ashley!!

 

Actually, he played at the Batschkapp when I lived in Frankfurt - the area was completely gridlocked, never seen anything like it in that part of town (and no, I did not go to his concert!).  But David Hasselhoff eclipsed him by playing at... I think Alte Oper, a few months later. 

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9 minutes ago, Mackle said:

 

I'm wondering if any of your wives had interesting passports that you potentially could have claimed :lol:

 

Not saying that you are the Henry VIII of Toytown, John... :P

Well, one or two occasionally gave head!

( God, I’m in trouble now!😂).. what a double entendre!!

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5 minutes ago, yesterday said:

This guy phil does not pull his punishes - sorry to go back on the Brexit topic

 

Have seen a lot of his videos. Sometimes he does seem slightly smarmy (he was smirking throughout his recent video about Brits in Spain), but I usually agree with most of what he says plus it is much nicer than the inflammatory stuff you see from Michael Heaver (who recently started to quite staggeringly call for the UK to stop paying the divorce bill, and now some Tory MPs are also taking up the baton on this) or the propaganda of Mayer Tousi. 

 

And when the two new news channels hit UK airwaves it is going to get worse. 

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I watch all his stuff, even stuff that isn't directly Brexit related. He hates Tories so that's always a plus lol.

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17 hours ago, Mackle said:

At what point do the general public start to see that things have gotten worse?

Most of my UK friends are pissed off with brexit, mostly remainers, the only leaver I know is also regretting his vote.

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The Brexit elite cannot hope to fool us for much longer

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There can be few people who have not at some stage in their lives felt that they had been “taken for a ride” or conned. Yet that, I think, will be the dawning realisation of a fair proportion of the 37% of the electorate who – without, in most cases, having the faintest idea of the implications – voted on 23 June 2016 to leave the European Union.

 

Now, usually, if one is conned, it is over some relatively minor matter in the great scheme of things, and one learns one’s lesson. But when a significant part of a country is taken for a ride, it cannot be dismissed as a trivial matter from which it can easily recover.

 

Such, I believe, is the condition of the UK at the moment. I read all this stuff about “Teflon Johnson” – a prime minister upon whom the sun never sets and to whom no accusation sticks, however justified. And I know that the Brexiters are having a “cloth of gold” day, loving the fact that the understandable obsession with the Plague is obscuring the damage being caused by Brexit – damage which is not obscure to the thousands of small and medium-sized businesses whose very future is at stake, many of which are having to set up operations within – guess what – the EU’s single market.

 

Neither will it be at all obscure, when the Covid restrictions are eventually eased, to a whole generation of young people who have grown up enjoying the freedom to travel, take Erasmus scholarships and work anywhere in the EU.

 

At times of national crisis, it pays to listen to the great playwrights. Writing in the New Statesman, David Hare makes the point that the real culprits in the Brexit fiasco are not the “red wall” victims of an austerity-induced discontent wrongly attributed to our membership of the EU. No: they are comfortably off members of an influential elite.

 

Hare writes: “The people who were desperate to pull Britain away from its geographical moorings were as likely to be found in Knightsbridge as in Hartlepool. The leader of the UK Independence party, Nigel Farage, who put the fear of God into the Conservative party, was a stockbroker. His principal cheerleaders were press owners, paid-up members of an elite who all lived abroad: Rupert Murdoch, Lord Rothermere and the Barclay brothers.”

There's more, click on the link...

 

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On 4/6/2021, 10:18:05, Wulfrun said:

Most of my UK friends are pissed off with brexit, mostly remainers, the only leaver I know is also regretting his vote.

 

Judging by this a lot of people in the red wall are more than happy with Brexit and to vote Tory.

 

Hartlepool, constituency voting intention:

CON: 49% (+20)

LAB: 42% (+4)

NIP: 2% (+2) L

DEM: 1% (-3)

REFUK: 1% (-25)

GRN: 1% (+1)

 

Labour are in big trouble and come next General election could lose the whole of the red wall to the Tories.

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3 hours ago, RenegadeFurther said:

Judging by this a lot of people in the red wall are more than happy with Brexit and to vote Tory.

 

As this is a traditional labour seat and was also one of the red wall seats that stayed red, it's going to be a real litmus test.

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I've posted previously on this thread how Brexit has effectively decimated the UK live events industry, worth some £70 billion. This means that a huge swathe of British musicians from classical orchestras to bands and individual musicians will simply be unable to afford the financial hit that accompanies the ending of FOM. 

 

Read this letter from a UK events/transportation company that spells out what this all means to their sector

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/15oDZvBYkrAMHijp6AsyQu_BBGTdLYzuD/view?fbclid=IwAR0c_O-Pl7zLLEa51Ab4ath194gxepyWjibxFqhpI4FxWLNYP3036vi4abw

 

The EU offered to make this simple (basically keeping the same rules as much as possible) for live acts making it easy for UK acts to perform in the EU and vice versa. But the vice-versa bit was the stumbling block for the UK government so they turned down the EU offer. 

 

Before the usual suspects pipe up with "But The Who and the Beatles toured Europe in the 60's" check out this post on by Fish formerly of Marillion about the realities of the situation.

 

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10157827728953587&id=54830663586

 

So well done Brexit voters, this time a sector employing many people and worth around 4 times the size of the UK fishing industry. Those of us living in Germany are unlikely to see some of our favourite British acts unless other than on a visit the UK.

 

But it's all just a huge joke, isn't it?   🤡 

 

 

 

 

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The FB post from Fish is a cry from the heart. Someone directly involved in the industry explaining (even to 6yr olds) how difficult touring will be.

 

A sad loss for  the cultural exchange and a financial disaster for so many.

 

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