Brexit: The fallout

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5 hours ago, murphaph said:

Not all leave voters are racists. However a significant minority are IMO.

You don't have to be racist. It's a power thing. I'm in the "native" group, so let's use the available leverage to remove the competition.

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1 hour ago, Krieg said:

 

Maybe, however they distanced themselves from the Antifa and Antideutschen long time ago.   Even the SPD did.   The AfD will not distance themselves from the NS movement because they know their core supporters have plenty of closet NS.

Are you sure about that? The following newspaper article says otherwise:

 

https://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/ordnungsruf-im-bundestag-linken-politikerin-renner-provoziert-mit-antifa-button/25063150.html

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7 hours ago, BMurphy said:

Priti Patel's job is to devise an immigration policy that is in the UK's best interests.

You`re dead right though.

But they never are no matter which side makes the policy.

It`s always what is best to keep that particular party in power never what is best for the country.

 

You may think they`re in the best interests of the country but if Corbyn or whoever were making them you wouldn`t think that and vice versa.

 

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14 hours ago, zwiebelfisch said:

It was almost always driven by a "back off brussels" way of thinking, not race or immigration.  Think bendy bananas, etc.

 

So driven by absolute bollocks and lies then basically ?

If you`re serious in that argument you couldn`t realy pick a worse one to show why someone voted leave because of that sort of crap is an idiot.

It goes nicely with the 350m for NHS,Jonsons Kippers and many more examples.

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13 hours ago, zwiebelfisch said:

 

As an example, whatever one thinks of Corbyn he has been a lifelong leaver and I dont think its fair to say he is motivated by racism. 

Not motivated by racism but maybe by antisemitism.

 

Someone on here referred to him as an English Trump but I`d class him more as a modern day Stalin.

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10 hours ago, Keleth said:

Funny they have mighty loud voices to condemn parliament or whoever when something goes against them yet in these case tumbleweed.

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Fuck me they seem to be using Piers Morgan as some sort of moral compass.

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Mr Morgan, a former News of the World editor, took over at the Daily Mirror in 1995 and held the position until 2004 when he was sacked following the publication of hoax photographs the newspaper claimed showed Iraqi prisoners being abused by British soldiers

He was also questioned by police in connection hacking the phone of murdered schoolgirl Milly Dowler.  What a guy.

Still Trump likes him, so there's always that.

 

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20 hours ago, dj_jay_smith said:

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Munich_shooting

He was German! (possibly converted to Christian or non-religious)

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnenden_school_shooting

He was German!

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanwings_Flight_9525

He was German!

 

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16 hours ago, murphaph said:

I'll wager those who fired shots at a synagogue and Dönerladen in Halle this afternoon were "proper AfD voting Germans".

 

 

I guess then we have to add another one to the list, after yesterdays events in Halle were confirmed to by committed by a "neo-nazi" German!

 

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2 hours ago, dj_jay_smith said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I guess then we have to add another one to the list, after yesterdays events in Halle were confirmed to by committed by a "neo-nazi" German!

 

Violence like that is reprehensible no matter who does it and who is targeted.

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Britain has turned against Brexit – biggest ever poll of polls says

 

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Britain has turned against Brexit, according to the biggest ever poll of polls.

YouGov analysis for the Evening Standard shows that 204 out of 226 polls since July 2017 have shown Remain ahead, with just seven for Leave, and 15 ties.

So far this year, just one poll has put Leave ahead, compared to 74 for staying in the EU.

Parliament v the People

The results appear to undermine the idea, being fuelled by No 10 chief adviser Dominic Cummings, that Brexit is turning into a “Parliament v the People” clash.

Anthony Wells, director of political research at YouGov, said: “The polling evidence is concrete. The overwhelming majority of questions asking people if Brexit is right or wrong, or if they would now vote Remain or Leave, show a lead for Remain, and have done for over two years.

“The characterisation of the situation as People vs Parliament doesn’t really stand up when the public are split over Brexit. 

“It is more a case of half the public vs half of Parliament.”

 

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15 minutes ago, Cheekyfox said:

 

No mention the question as to will a German EHIC card be valid in the UK. Or does somebody have the answer.

 

Google in German. 

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17 minutes ago, Cheekyfox said:

 

No mention the question as to will a German EHIC card be valid in the UK. Or does somebody have the answer.

 

At the moment no.

 

The EHIC is based on reciprocal agreements.  At the moment Germany has not agreed to the UK request of maintaining this in the event of a no-deal.  Therefore it won't be valid any more.

In the event of a deal then the transition period will kick in and it should still be valid until the end of 2020.  Which gives them time also to make a new agreement in this area.

 

 

Having said that, Emergency A&E care in the UK is provided free of charge by the NHS for everybody regardless of citizenship or residency.  So if you are in the UK, fall ill, and need an emergency operation then this will not cost you anything (unless they change the rules/law!).  But, it would not cover you for repatriation back to Germany for example.  So for that, then you would need travel health insurance.

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30 minutes ago, Cheekyfox said:

 

No mention the question as to will a German EHIC card be valid in the UK. Or does somebody have the answer.

 

According to the European Consumer Centre, where they seem to be talking about using an EHIC in the UK, it will be valid if there's a deal but not if there's no deal.

 

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Die Europäische Krankenversicherungskarte (EHIC) behält bis zum Austritt Großbritanniens aus der EU ihre Gültigkeit. Sie wird von den gesetzlichen Krankenkassen kostenlos zur Verfügung gestellt und ist meist auf der Rückseite der Karte zu finden, die man beim Arztbesuch vorlegen muss. Mit dieser Karte können Versicherte während ihres Urlaubs in allen EU-Mitgliedstaaten sowie in Island, Liechtenstein, Norwegen und der Schweiz zum Arzt gehen und bekommen die gleichen Leistungen wie Bürgerinnen und Bürger des Reiselandes. Achten Sie beim Arztbesuch in Großbritannien darauf, dass der Arzt dem "National Health Service" angehört. Denn dann übernehmen die Krankenkassen die Kosten für die medizinisch notwendige Versorgung.

 

Bei einem Deal-Brexit wird die Europäische Krankenversicherungskarte auch weiterhin akzeptiert.
Bei einem No-Deal-Brexit gilt sie nicht mehr.


Egal, ob Brexit oder nicht: Es empfiehlt sich für den Urlaub eine Reisekrankenversicherung abzuschließen. Denn diese beinhaltet mehr Leistungen als die EHIC.

https://www.evz.de/de/verbraucherthemen/der-brexit-und-seine-folgen-fuer-verbraucher/

 

 

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And so it continues. "The security minister, Brandon Lewis, has threatened EU citizens with deportation from the UK if they do not apply for settled status after Brexit."

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Nach dem Austritt Großbritanniens aus der EU wird London scharfe Einwanderungsregeln anwenden, kündigt Innenstaatssekretär Brandon Lewis an. Von den etwa 140.000 Deutschen hat sich bisher nur ein gutes Drittel für eine Aufenthaltsgenehmigung bewerben.

 

I hope for the sake of all of you who haven't yet got a solution allowing you to stay, that the Germans don't reciprocate.

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The mentality of Brexiteers. Probably be okay because he's obviously full of bullshit.

 

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGf-9lMXkAEMZlN?format=png&name=small

 

Eat grass, we used to dream of eating grass.

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