Brexit: The fallout

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1 hour ago, dj_jay_smith said:

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@LukeSkywalker One for  you!

 

 

I read somewhere that it was only meant to be 10 rebels, then the Government sent in Rees-Mogg (taking control of the order paper debate) and it became 21.

 

22 the next day.

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Is it true that legally it´s not clear that BJ will be bound by the anti-brexit bill? According to n-tv parliament has no authority to interfere in how government deals with foreign affairs. On another note: can British MP´s really not ask for having secret ballots? As I understand from Wikipedia that´s only the case when it comes to the election of the speaker.

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The UK's membership of the EU can hardly be defined as foreign affairs though as the effects of EU membership (or not) are felt mostly at-home. I don't believe the PM will be able to legally ignore this law. Is Boris ready to risk prison for this? I have no idea what will happen next to be honest. Possibly VonC in government moved by the PM as ludicrous as that sounds.

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1 hour ago, murphaph said:

 Is Boris ready to risk prison for this?

 

Sounds as he is prepared to be "ditched"!!

 

I remember the late lamented Dave Allen saying that he had a soft sport for politicians - an Irish Bog.

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3 hours ago, jeba said:

According to n-tv parliament has no authority to interfere in how government deals with foreign affairs.

It's a bit of a grey area, but anyway, how can EU business be considered foreign? The UK is part of the EU...

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On sky news, an ex-supreme court judge said

If Boros does not ask, the reballs will take the government to court, the court will order another member of the government to go and ask for an extension.

 

Nothing has been said about what will happen to Boris, ( i would think) but he has refused to comply with the law, so he can be prosecuted, once he is a criminal then he will not be aloud to sit in parliament anymore.

 

Or he goes to Brussels and asks for an extension, at that point - there will be plenty of images posted here, with, on the top side Boris, saying " we leave do or die" and "and rather be dead in a ditch" - with on the bottom side Boris dressed in a chicken say "I have secured a BREXIT extension", just like I said I would do"

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@Smaug: Could you please post the link again? I cannot click on it nor quote your posting.

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Near, far, don't care who you are,

I promise this farce will go on,

Once more, I'm being a bore,

Waffle, letterboxes, bank robbers,

Girly swot, piccaninnies, bluff, blah blah.

 

Hope the wanker does down with the ship.

 

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Amber Rudd has resigned from cabinet and resigned the Tory whip. Johnson's government starting to fall apart.

 

 

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2 hours ago, hooperski said:

 

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He looks like Claude Greengrass, in Heartbeat, in that photo :lol:

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10 hours ago, murphaph said:

Amber Rudd has resigned from cabinet and resigned the Tory whip. Johnson's government starting to fall apart.

 

 

Not just the government but the Tory party is falling apart, a bit like the Schism the Catholic church suffered in 1054. Normally I'd be pleased but we need a Tory party so that we don't have a Corbyn style Pseudo - Marxist socialist government. That is equally as damaging as a far right Tory party. Checks and balances.

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What the UK needs more than anything is to bin FPTP so politicians can find their natural homes in parties that reflect their views. It's ok to have UKIP or BXP or Momentum in parliament in their own right and much better than by proxy inside the big parties as at present.

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But the only time the big parties consider Proportional Representation is when they are out of government. Both Labour and the Tories made noises about it when they were in the wilderness. Once they are in power...

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The electorate had a chance to at least make a start with the AV referendum which they barely turned out for and also rejected. British public's own fault in many ways. AV isn't perfect but a step in the right direction.

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