Brexit: The fallout

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49 minutes ago, Lorelei said:

Just knew Priti Patel would be trouble. A prime exemplar of the Nasty Party.

The last people to cause rationing in Britain were the Nazis, so the 'Nasty Party' is pretty close to what the tories should be called...

 

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So the tories' no deal brexit could bring a return to 'the troubles' ?

 

Yet another 'benefit' :rolleyes:

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43 minutes ago, Wulfrun said:

So the tories' no deal brexit could bring a return to 'the troubles' ?

 

Yet another 'benefit' :rolleyes:

 

Its said some see the above as "a small price to pay" for being rid of the EU tyrrany... 

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None of these assholes will ever have to break the news to a police officer's spouse that their loved one has been blown to bits by a terrorist bomb at the border. English politicians have always tried to contain the effects of their country's presence in Ireland to Ireland itself (and later Northern Ireland). See Ulsterisation.

 

This is what Ulsterisation looks like in 2019.

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Priti pleased with herself : Brexit UK becomes world’s first Fuckoffcracy

 

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“We’re to become the world’s foremost Fuckoffcracy,” a Home Office android told LCD Views, on the condition we did not keep the news to ourselves.

Under the bold and enterprising plan Home Office minister, Priti Patel, has decided to revive a failed negotiating tactic from failed May’s premiership.

“We’re attempting to hold millions of people to ransom in the hope of bluffing the EU into caving on peace and security on the island of Ireland,” the droid smiled, “with not a care for the psychological anguish this causes. With no thought to the reputation harm to the UK. This time we really believe we are going to win.”

 

And the prize is immense. It is a golden moment. To tear up the legal rights of millions of people overnight. Just like that.

“Not since the 1930’s has a developed country had the vim and verve of Brexit Britain,” the droid sparked (one pulsating spark at the temple), “just imagine being Boris Johnson, with Priti Patel riding shotgun, and looking twenty seven countries that called us friend in the face and saying, at the stroke of a clock millions of your citizens will have many of the most vital rights ripped from their hands. That takes some nerve.”

 

Brexit Britain. The world’s most prominent Fuckoffcracy. And it’s being done right now and in your name.

 

“If we can treat the lives of foreign born citizens with such contempt,” the droid finished, “just wait till you see what we’ll do to you after you’ve allowed us to take away your freedom of movement.”

 

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And despite John Bolton's bullshit in London this week, the UK will NOT get any trade deal with the United States if a hard border is the result of Brexit. The United States Congress has to approve any such trade deals and it won't. This FTA is not in the gift of the executive.

 

Nancy Pelosi said last week that it would not get through the House of Representatives and now Chuck Schumer (Dem leader of Senate) says the Dems in the Senate would not support such an FTA either (his letter to Mike Pompeo is explicit!). There are enough Irish American Republicans in the Senate to kill it there if it some how managed to get through the Democrat controlled House (extremely unlikely anyway).

 

https://www.rte.ie/amp/1069740/

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2 minutes ago, theGman said:

Whatever one may think of Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson, he does have everyone very much believing that a no deal on October 31st is completely possible. That no deal was always an empty threat until now is one of the criticisms of May's strategy and one of the reasons why we are still in this situation.

 

Indeed.  However you look at it may got a shite deal. I stand by my assertion that she knew what she was doing, but we have to accept that her gamble has left europe thinking we are a soft touch and in many ways may actually be the cause of no deal. 

Boris also knows what he is doing, and like it or not it is the correct way to negotiate (assuming leave is the objective).

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The asset stripping begins...

 

Greene King pub giant snapped up by Hong Kong firm CKA

 

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Pub giant and brewer Greene King has agreed to be bought by Hong Kong operator CKA, the latest deal in a wave of consolidation in the sector.

Suffolk-based Greene King owns roughly 2,700 pubs, restaurants and hotels in total across the UK.

The deal values Greene King at £2.7bn

Fullers was recently sold, to a Japanese company, as well.

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May got herself a shite deal. The EU proposed an NI only backstop which would have allowed GB to go on its merry way, leaving NI effectively within the SM and CU of the EU and thus preventing a hard border in Ireland.

 

May thought she had a super lead over Corbyn (polling data told her that) and then Nick Timothy advised her to call a snap general election to improve on her slim majority. She lost that slim majority and was then reliant on the nutters in the DUP -> no chance of an NI only backstop after this.

 

May then asked the EU could she extend the backstop to the whole UK, to which the EU agreed (but some EU leaders did not think this was a good idea).

 

It never was an EU construct to trap the UK in the EU. It was an extraordinary offer from the EU to allow a region the size of NI to be treated specially by the EU. Out but not out. Most NI business would leap at the chance. It's DUP ideology that prevents this.

 

I believe Johnson wants to hold a general election and regain an overall majority and throw the DUP under the bus by resurrecting the NI only backstop.

 

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2 minutes ago, murphaph said:

 

I believe Johnson wants to hold a general election and regain an overall majority and throw the DUP under the bus by resurrecting the NI only backstop.

 

 

Interesting perspective. Mr Johnson has invested a lot of time cozying up to the  DUP and pandering to their interests.

 

Perhaps it is a case of keeping your friends close and your enemies even closer.

 

Food for thought. 

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2 hours ago, murphaph said:

Johnson wrote an open letter to Tusk yesterday. It is not aimed at the EU. It is for domestic consumption to make the average Tory voter think the UK tried and the EU was intransigent. Even the Europe editor of the Torygraph tore it to shreds:

 

https://twitter.com/pmdfoster/status/1163545030981750784?s=20

 

What a bloody awful letter, why use 6 words when a dozen will do, was he just trying to confuse 'johnny foreigner' with bullshit?

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20 minutes ago, murphaph said:

 

I believe Johnson wants to hold a general election and regain an overall majority and throw the DUP under the bus by resurrecting the NI only backstop.

 

 

Johnson wants to hold a General Election and he wants to hold it on the 1st November. By holding it on the day after the UK leaves the EU, he is effectively negating the Lib Dems and the Brexit party. The Lib Dems will then have to campaign for Article 49 (no more second referendum) and the Brexit party will be finished (UK has already left).

 

Whether Parliament allows this is a different matter but I would guess the most likely scenario now would be a General election on the 1st November.

 

The letter to the EU is just a smokescreen to give him more time to run down the clock and to show to Parliament he is trying.

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