Brexit: The fallout

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11 minutes ago, dom said:

 

Wishful thinking!! :P One life and one account is enough for me, thank you very much! :ph34r:

That is exactly the opposite of what I would have said 🙄

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4 minutes ago, cb6dba said:

Not good for them. Maybe the ones that voted leave will move back to the UK.

 

There are also those of us who are not UK citizens but have a claim to a UK pension because we made enough NI contributions in the past.

 

The EU has been pretty adamant in the Brexit negotiations that rights that have already be earned must be kept for a deal to be struck. That should mean that, at least pension rights accrued before Brexit, would still fall under freedom of movement rules and the UK will not be able to give better terms to UK resident than to EU residents. For contributions made after Brexit, things don't look so rosy, and of course if there's a no-deal Brexit, pretty much anything can happen.

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17 hours ago, Smaug said:

That should mean that, at least pension rights accrued before Brexit, would still fall under freedom of movement rules and the UK will not be able to give better terms to UK resident than to EU residents.

 

Hopefully this will hold true. However, if the pound takes a nose dive after brexit, expats will be screwed and there will certainly be no safety nets for that!

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Government loses vote in house of lords on custom union amendment.

 

 

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12 hours ago, dom said:

 

Hopefully this will hold true. However, if the pound takes a nose dive after brexit, expats will be screwed and there will certainly be no safety nets for that!

I thought the pound is set to soar!

 

On the other hand I heard a suggestion of two pounds to the Euro...

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UK will be £615m per week worse off under government's preferred Brexit scenario, estimates study

 

The government’s preferred Brexit scenario would leave the UK public finances £615m per week worse off than staying in the EU, according to new analysis.

That would mean the country has the equivalent of almost £1bn per week less to spend on public services than the £350m positive benefit that the Leave campaign claimed would result from leaving the EU.

A study for the think tank Global Future carried out by Jonathan Portes, a professor of economics at King’s College, London, looked at each of the three scenarios assessed by the governmentin its own leaked analysis.

 

Where`s that red bus when you need it :P

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Looking "forward" to brexit, I'm wondering whether anyone will be eligible to stay in the UK post march 2019, considering the shameful "windrush" situation: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-43806710

 

I don't see much point in keeping the "united" in united kingdom much longer. :unsure:

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People have lost their jobs, pensions and homes and denied NHS treatment.

 

May's response yesterday?

 

"I want to be absolutely clear: We have no intention of asking anyone to leave who has the right to remain here. For those who have mistakenly received letters challenging them -- I want to apologize to them and I want to say sorry to anyone who has been caused confusion or anxiety felt as a result of this."

 

The UK has already done some shitty stuff to EU citzens who have been in the UK long term, but have trouble proving it due to lack of documents.

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6 minutes ago, snowingagain said:

People have lost their jobs, pensions and homes and denied NHS treatment.

 

May's response yesterday?

 

"I want to be absolutely clear: We have no intention of asking anyone to leave who has the right to remain here. For those who have mistakenly received letters challenging them -- I want to apologize to them and I want to say sorry to anyone who has been caused confusion or anxiety felt as a result of this."

 

The UK has already done some shitty stuff to EU citzens who have been in the UK long term, but have trouble proving it due to lack of documents.

Reminds me of this:

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6 minutes ago, snowingagain said:

People have lost their jobs, pensions and homes and denied NHS treatment.

 

May's response yesterday?

 

"I want to be absolutely clear: We have no intention of asking anyone to leave who has the right to remain here. For those who have mistakenly received letters challenging them -- I want to apologize to them and I want to say sorry to anyone who has been caused confusion or anxiety felt as a result of this."

 

The UK has already done some shitty stuff to EU citzens who have been in the UK long term, but have trouble proving it due to lack of documents.

Standard political way.

People found out, blame other party, apologise.

 

Trying to blame the opposition for destroying papers only needed as you are trying to deport people is beyond shame.

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13 minutes ago, snowingagain said:

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The UK has already done some shitty stuff to EU citzens who have been in the UK long term, but have trouble proving it due to lack of documents.

 

Not just EU citizens:

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/woman-irene-clennell-uk-deport-singapore-british-husband-durham-immigration-detention-centre-a7601441.html

 

 

 

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A woman who has lived in the UK for nearly 30 years with her British husband has been deported to Singapore

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She had been living near Durham with her husband. She has two British sons, as well as a granddaughter, in the UK.

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 She was given indefinite leave to remain in the country after marrying Mr Clennell in 1990, but lost this when she returned to Singapore to care for her parents when they were dying.

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2 hours ago, cb6dba said:

Standard political way.  People found out, blame other party, apologise.

 

 

The guy with prostate cancer who has been refused NHS radiotherapy due to start in November 2017 (unless he forks up 54,000 GBP) heard May in PMQ yesterday saying "sorry about that, but it has now all been sorted out".  He has heard nothing, nor has the Royal Marsden about this.  

 

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Britain wants the EU to protect its products from imitation post-Brexit, but is reluctant to return the favour

 

UK wants to keep benefits of EU's 'geographical indications' scheme but is reluctant to follow the other rules.

 

The Government wants the EU’s “geographical indications” system to keep protecting British foods like Stilton and Cornish pasties from imitation after Brexit – but has been unable to secure an agreement with Brussels on the issue because it is not committing to protecting EU products in return.

 

Of course, it is the EU`s fault :P

 

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