15 Year Old Syrian Refugee Killed in Bremen

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23 hours ago, sosarx said:

What the police officer said is that there is no indication that xenophobia is the motivation. Now we have to be able to differ between racism and xenophobia. In the UK of these days we see a lot of xenophobia, expressed in the Brexit vote but also in daily life. That's not racism, Poles are white Europeans , christinas, etc.But many Brits don't want them in their country anymore. Britain the Brits. that's xenophobia. Racism doesn't stop, like xenophobia, at a countries border but is universal.

 

So how many of the 17 odd million Brits who voted for Brexit do you think are xenophobes?

 

No doubt some are, but you don't have to be a xenophobe to be in favour of Brexit.

The massive levels of immigration to Britain for the past number of decades would seem to suggest, that, shock horror, Brits are generally actually fairly nice, non-xenophobic people.

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9 hours ago, someonesdaughter said:

 

And if you read Brambles Post carefully you would see that he stated, the incidence WOULD have been in the news, when the attackers WERE rightwing extremists.

 

It WAS in the news – although the attackers were presumably not rightwing extremists.

 

But spreading conspiration theories is very popular for some ...

 

 

HE stated?:D

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http://www.focus.de/panorama/welt/brutale-tat-in-hamburg-geschlagen-missbraucht-beraubt-fuenf-maenner-locken-frau-mit-hilferufen-in-park_id_6467337.html

 

brutal:angry::angry::angry:

hope you guys know German. 

that is what happens when you try to help someone! 

A woman heard some men shouting for help in the park, and went to help!   BIG MISTAKE!

 it was a trap!

 

"Die junge Frau wurde nicht nur brutal niedergeschlagen, sondern auch von mehreren Männern missbraucht und schließlich ausgeraubt."

 

she was (although they use the soft word "misbrauch" instead of "vergalwaltigung" but i guess she was in clear words  RAPED! . and brutally beaten. 

 

"Vier Täter können wie folgt beschrieben werden:
Männlich, afrikanisches Erscheinungsbild, 20 bis 30 Jahre alt, circa 180 Zentimeter groß und dunkel gekleidet"

 

So, be careful who you go to help...

 

...i hear rumors that the woman is called Europe...<_<

 

Cheers and carry on. 

 

 

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On 8.1.2017, 20:25:56, klubbnika said:

Yeah, critisizing a certain religion is for example considered "racism".

 

Yes, klubbnika. Some people confuse criticism of religion with racism. Hence, you have a couple of reddies. Theoretically, that would mean an atheist hates every single believer in the world, right? That is some heavy duty Weltschmerz.Or heavy duty stupidity.

How about people accept the positives of whichever religion or Weltanschauung and discuss trashing the crap stuff? Which is the crap stuff? Wanting to kill anyone who disagrees with you?. Ah yes, back to square one...

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22 hours ago, bramble said:

 

Well, just to clarify, and hopefully to put a stop to the senseless nitpicking, the above post by klubbnika explains my point exactly. Others got it, but some people will insist on pretending to be dumm wie Brot.

 

Dummes Gepöbel instead of arguments. 

 

- If the attackers were rightwing extremists it would have been all over the news by now. 

 

          - Ehm, it's been in the news for days now.

 

- I don't care: If the attackers were rightwing extremists it would have been all over the news by now!!!!

 

          - It's been in the news – although the attackers are not right-wing.

 

- SHUT UP! If the attackers WERE rightwing extremists it WOULD have been all over the news by now!!!!1elf LÜGENPRESSE! DUMM WIE BROT! PÖBELPÖBELPÖBEL.

 

 

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36 minutes ago, AnswerToLife42 said:

May I cite Göhring Eckhart, Grüne: "Deutschland wird sich verändern. Und ich freu mich drauf ".

 

 

May I cite Pegida: AUSLÄNDER RAUS!

 

http://blog.zeit.de/stoerungsmelder/2015/01/27/auslaender-raus-rufe-bei-pegida-in-brandenburg_18376

 

PS: Hahahaha! Come on, right-wing Ausländers, more neg porn! And never forget: What goes around comes around – for the xenophobes your skin color or religion is irrelevant! Polish people in GB are neither muslim nor colored, they get beaten up anyway... 

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On 08/01/2017, 15:07:02, klubbnika said:

Well, dear @AnswerToLife42, you should have learned by now that if the police omit the nationality of the perp it is most certainly a person with an immigrant background. :)

 

If it was a German or other so called "white", this would be trumpeted all over the news.

I agree with that point as Germany is more concerned in fighting Islamophia and the rise of the exteme right than dealing with the migrant issue which according to an article in RT this am, as they are clearly driving a politics to make sure than migrants are kept here and as such driving policies to counter act anti migrants actions rather than protecting their own nationals. I am curious to see if this will get through. Germany seems to do everything to feed extremism and social unrest rather than mitigating it. 

https://www.rt.com/news/373136-berlin-refugees-rejected-stay/

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How is Germany following politics aiming to protect migrants and at the same time being criticized and even warned over and over by Amnesty International for failing to tackle human rights violations, failing to have independent and transparent legal produces to investigate and tackle torture claims, failing to tackle hate crimes. The 2015/2016 report for Germany is pretty worrying, has nothing to do with what a country that protects migrants, refugees etc. would receive. It's more like reports and warnings the so-called third world countries receive actually.

 

The final Afghan deal of the EU has been called a "disgrace","another dark moment in EU foreign relations."

 

Since when has Amnesty International become a far left wing organization or whatever institutions devoted to proecting human dignity are called nowadays?

 

Merkel has gone back to her old self in her visit to Afghanistan, explaining to people that Germany is not a wonderful country and there is no "welcome money" for refugees, no guarantee of housing, job etc. 

 

Some people may think Germany is protecting refugees really well. International human rights organizations do not think so. To the contrary actually. Germany has a long way to go to properly protect human dignity. How underdeveloped, ("backward" would be the word of choice if this was a "third world" country) was that rape law before it was revised last year or so in comparison to many countries in Europe and actually the rest of the world? Surely that affects "statistics". 

 

So funny. Everyone is talking about "sex" problems conducted by refugees. Germany has a lot of basic sexual health problems from "the other side" as well. Sex with a refugee woman costs 10 euro. If this is "prostitution" Germany should work to stop exploitation circumstances. If it's sex work, proper labour conditions should be ensured - sexual health education, access to sexual health centres made easy, disease prevention, unwanted pregnancies etc etc. Crimes reported? Even that is quite a distant objective for these women.

 

How often do we read in mainstream news stories about women sexually harassed, attacked, raped in all sorts of dens and NOT by their male refugee or whatever counterparts?

 

People believe Germany protects refugees over their nationals? A huge international community (not onle the Middle East) seems to disagree with this. At best (or worst) nobody seems to be protected.   

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1 hour ago, someonesdaughter said:

 

Dummes Gepöbel instead of arguments. 

 

- If the attackers were rightwing extremists it would have been all over the news by now. 

 

          - Ehm, it's been in the news for days now.

 

- I don't care: If the attackers were rightwing extremists it would have been all over the news by now!!!!

 

          - It's been in the news – although the attackers are not right-wing.

 

- SHUT UP! If the attackers WERE rightwing extremists it WOULD have been all over the news by now!!!!1elf LÜGENPRESSE! DUMM WIE BROT! PÖBELPÖBELPÖBEL.

 

 

Jesus H christ are you really this dumb or are you just trolling ?

It's blatantly obvious that what was mean is that if he was killed by a right winger the papers would have been full of it whereas it is only being reported like any other murder because there was no right wing element to it.

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1 hour ago, someonesdaughter said:

 

Dummes Gepöbel instead of arguments. 

 

- If the attackers were rightwing extremists it would have been all over the news by now. 

 

          - Ehm, it's been in the news for days now.

 

- I don't care: If the attackers were rightwing extremists it would have been all over the news by now!!!!

 

          - It's been in the news – although the attackers are not right-wing.

 

- SHUT UP! If the attackers WERE rightwing extremists it WOULD have been all over the news by now!!!!1elf LÜGENPRESSE! DUMM WIE BROT! PÖBELPÖBELPÖBEL.

 

Oh dear, we have a case of mental overload here. 

 

Ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

  mie.jpg

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Keleth said:

Jesus H christ are you really this dumb or are you just trolling ?

 

More dummes Gepöbel.

 

4 minutes ago, Keleth said:

It's blatantly obvious that what was mean is that if he was killed by a right winger the papers would have been full of it whereas it is only being reported like any other murder because there was no right wing element to it.

 

It's blatantly obvious that you and some others want to insinuate a different media approach regarding murder and reporting. Since you can't deny the murder's been reported, you make up a smoke screen of "but ... but ... but it would have been different when it would have been a right wing murder ..." – based exclusively on your very own phantasies and scaremongering... 

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3 hours ago, someonesdaughter said:

It's blatantly obvious that you and some others want to insinuate a different media approach regarding murder and reporting. 

I'm pretty sure you'll find no quotes from me in this thread apart from the one I just replied to you.

I'm making no comment at all on the case or the reporting of it merely stating the fucking obvious to you in what he meant when he wrote what he did.Whether he is right or not I have no idea.

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On 8.1.2017, 20:25:56, klubbnika said:

Yeah, critisizing a certain religion is for example considered "racism".

 

Yes, klubbnika. Some people confuse criticism of religion with racism. Hence, you have a couple of reddies. Theoretically, that would mean an atheist hates every single believer in the world, right? That is some heavy duty Weltschmerz.Or heavy duty stupidity.

How about people accept the positives of whichever religion or Weltanschauung and discuss trashing the crap stuff? Which is the crap stuff? Wanting to kill anyone who disagrees with you?. Ah yes, back to square one...

 

 

 

 

(incredible quote system...jeez )

Just to update on something else..Switzerland did not breach any laws when it decided on co-educational swimming classes...despite protests from the usual quarters.

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38569428

 

I´m all for co-ed and bollocks to religion interfering with education- WHICHEVER religion is so conservative that  poor snowflake girls must be separated from snowflake boys. Learn together at a young age and stop seeing the other sex as aliens. 

 

INCLUSION for progress ..NOT EXCLUSION!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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@johnG, yes, gender segregation should not be allowed on the grounds of some fairy tales called religion and because it is assumed and expected from the boys/men that they would not be able to contain themselves and attack the girls. This mentality has no place in our society. They should train to control their impulses, like most people do in a civilized society.

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I went to a boys´ only school in the 60s, klubbnika. A grammar school. No girls! Shame! Mind you, sometime in the late 60s, the only woman teacher turned up (maths teacher) and she wore a mini skirt...and that school had two floors and she used to go up the stairs (and be stared at by some of us boys in puberty...)...that was not easy...

:D

 

I don´t think we even knew what made us feel horny!!!

:rolleyes:

(PS: I failed my maths 0 Level!!).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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