Mass shooting at shopping center in Munich

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4 minutes ago, desdemona said:

Ahh that's right, that's why it sounds really strange. Never heard someone said 'ich bin hier geboren worden'. I'd usually hear 'ich bin hier geboren (und aufgewachsen)' or 'ich bin von hier' or 'ich bin Schwabe/Franken/etc'

 

Exactly! It's a funny choice of words, wrong language register (a bit too formal), the slight hesitation at hard words like "Behandlung", stuff like that.

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6 minutes ago, desdemona said:

No wonder not a word from the Madame, both for Würzburg and Munich!

 

When will you start reading german newspapers or watch german TV?

 

http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article157181590/Ganze-Anteilnahme-gilt-den-Opfern-dieses-Anschlags.html

http://www.n24.de/n24/Nachrichten/Politik/d/8860952/csu-fordert-nach-axt-angriff-strengere-grenzkontrollen.html

http://www.merkur.de/bayern/wuerzburg-axt-attacke-zug-anschlag-mann-attackiert-menschen-zr-6584640.html

http://www.nwzonline.de/blaulicht/merkel-staat-tut-alles-gegen-gewaltbereiten-extremismus_a_31,0,2636066327.html

 

Let's talk about alien parallel societies in Germany ...

 

25 minutes ago, Metall said:

(And before someonesdaughter asks, I am that rare beast - a double native speaker ;) . My family speaks all sorts of languages.)

 

"In der heutigen Umgangssprache wird normalerweise nicht zwischen Perfekt und Präteritum unterschieden. Das Perfekt kommt sehr häufig in der gesprochenen Sprache vor, wenn man über alltägliche Dinge spricht. In der gesprochenen Sprache klingen viele Präteritumformen fremd bzw. überformell."

 

http://www.deutschegrammatik20.de/verbformen/der-gebrauch-der-tempora-zeiten/gebrauch-praeteritum-perfekt/

 

 

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4 minutes ago, desdemona said:

Thanks for the grammar lesson.

A useless grammar lesson. I'm a native Bayer and I would never say that. Reminds my of my rotten  English lesson.

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8 minutes ago, desdemona said:

No, someone's daughter, German is my third language. Thanks for the grammar lesson.

 

You're welcome. 

 

8 minutes ago, desdemona said:

 

 

Are you a German language teacher?

 

Why, are you looking for one to improve your fragile knowledge? 

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1 hour ago, taylormario said:

The Lefts are hoping this is a right-wing nut-job, and the Rights are hoping this is a Muslim.

 

LUL

here is my cookie 

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1 minute ago, someonesdaughter said:

Why, are you looking for one to improve your fragile knowledge? 

No thanks, I'd rather choose Gaberlunzi, he's wittier and definitely has a stock of interesting stories from his long life experience, would make German lesson far more fun!

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9 minutes ago, gaberlunzi said:

A useless grammar lesson.

 

Obviously. All you need to know is already in this thread: Useless grammar lessons from Ausländers, wild jumping to conclusions, fake "news", false alerts, rumours, the usual Merkel-bashing, links to porn sites ... enjoy it! 

 

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2 minutes ago, someonesdaughter said:

 

Obviously. All you need to know is already in this thread: Useless grammar lessons from Ausländers, wild jumping to conclusions, fake "news", false alerts, rumours, the usual Merkel-bashing, links to porn sites ... enjoy it! 

 

You should change your moniker one more time, but this time to Douchebag. 

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4 minutes ago, someonesdaughter said:

 

Obviously. All you need to know is already in this thread: Useless grammar lessons from Ausländers, wild jumping to conclusions, fake "news", false alerts, rumours, the usual Merkel-bashing, links to porn sites ... enjoy it! 

 

If you hate it so much, why are you still here, someone's daughter? Surely there are other forums on the internet that satisfy your moral compass better?

Or you just secretly love us in a twisted, masochistic way? Darn I knew it!

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We'll hopefully find out by tomorrow if it's only this one terrorist or if there are more, and who he was/they are! 

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2 hours ago, gaberlunzi said:

You remember the shooting during the Olympics in Munich?

Definitely not, @gaberlunzi, I wasn't born then. 

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Yes, I'd like to know if we can take out my dear old relative safely to go shopping tomorrow. She's stuck in her apartment just now with the inofficial curfew, with the choice of worrying about her relatives in Turkey, or her own safety in Munich. *sigh*

The police seem to be leaning towards a single attacker by now, but the choppers noisily circling above indicate otherwise. Not a lot sleep possible tonight.

 

@gaberlunzi: I do remember the 1972 terrorist attack during the Olympics (I was a child then). This was my second time in Germany, and we lived quite close to the Olympic area. I was in fact comparing the uproar and police measures from '72 with today.

Today is the first time *ever* I read the ticker stream on the U-Bahn signs say to immediately leave all subway stations... I knew something really bad had happened from that.

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1 hour ago, White Rose of Yorkshire said:

According to the German press, German Interior Minister Thomas de Maizière, cut short his holiday in the USA because of the attack in Würzberg. He then flew back to the USA to continue his holiday and now he is flying back to Germany again because of the attack in Münich.  I bet he is really cheesed off to put it mildly.

 

Angie is also on holiday but is being kept up to date about the situation in Münich.

...he's cheesed off... what about the poor victims and those caught up in the mayhem???!!!

Not to mention the inhabitants of Munich, who's almost perfect city has been ruined by this or these A**hole(s).

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6 hours ago, LukeSkywalker said:

I'm in the S-Bahn, but it doesn't stop at Stacchus. I will avoid Hbf and go to Donnersbergerbrücke and then walk home.

 

I was on the S-Bahn to Munich - it stopped at Ostbahnhof, announcement of police action at Stachus, no S-Bahn running.

Walked to the subway - all stations evacuated. Sinking feeling...

Announcements *everything* was stopped. Called Mr Metall to pick me up, and he told me to get away from crowds, so I hid in a bank until he got there.

I had missed the earlier S-Bahn because I had to go back to pick up something. Else I would have been in the subway very close to the events... am very glad I wasn't going to shop for guitar strings etc. at my favorite music store behind the McDonalds. *eek*

Damn. Life is short. Hug your significant other every morning before going out, hear me?!

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17 minutes ago, Santitas said:

How did this thread end up becoming an argument?? As someone who has experienced a terrorist attack first hand (9/11) and experienced fear like I've never known, now is the time to come together and forget the trivial, petty stuff.  Life is just too short.

Stroo. I came back downstairs. Couldn't sleep. Too upset. I used to live next to Westfriedhof U Bahn ages back, and also Taxisstrasse. 

 

My money is on an east European, poor with mental issues and unable to get meds. 

 

Antidepressant withdrawal is literally a killer. 

 

and, Santitas, I also lived through the Khobar Towers truck bombing in Dhahran, KSA in 1996.

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Police twitter confirms the ninth casualty is the attacker who shot himself.

May have been the only shooter.

Press conference set for 2 am.

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In 1972 we'd been living in Rosenheim for a year, making frequent forays into Munich and marking the progress on the U-Bahn and the spiffing up for the Olympics.  It was a happy, happy city, proud to stand up 27 years after the war's end and show that it was back, after all the destruction.  It was the resurrection of Germany as a friendly and accomplished country.

And then we woke up to TV coverage of the invasion of the Olympiadorf, the long day of waiting, and the heartbreak of the failed rescue and murdered Israelis.  And the shame the next day, 6 September, of Avery Brundage saying, "The Games must go on!", instead of allowing honest grief and mourning.
Munich and all of Germany recognized that although it was the Palestinians who had caused the carnage originally, the police inability to follow through had stained Munich and the country.  What had been billed as the "Happy Olympics" was over.
On US news today there is constant mention of Munich as a happy city, now once more mourning.

 

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