Brexit / Applying for German citizenship

[Derek 1,027]

2 minutes ago, pappnase said:

I don't really think I want to go back, there isn't much there for me these days, but also I'm not sure there is any reason why I can't enter the country with my German passport. 

 

I go back once a year. I think I'll find it easier going into Britain using my UK passport, none of the "what's the purpose of your visit" nonsense. Then when coming back to the EU I'll use my German one, again same no-nonsense approach. Although I'm not looking forward to the renewal process (and the hefty price involved).

 

3 minutes ago, john g. said:

Oh, I thought only we non-Germans had to pay German tax. I have been led up the garden path all these years by my bloody Steuerberater!🙏🏻

 

I just got hit with a massive (5-figure) tax bill out of the blue. I made the mistake of getting a 33% payrise early in 2018 (well, I just decided to work 40 hours a week instead of 30). As a self-employed person it meant that for the whole of 2018 I was under-paying my tax vorauszahlung (pre-paid quarterly tax) and the same for all of 2019 because I only just finished my 2018 tax return late October.

[john g. 37,776]

I think ( as a fellow sufferer ) the system should be reversed - the more hours you work, the less tax you pay! Invent some scan thingy which proves you are working and have it expertly inserted into your body and Bob‘s your uncle!

[Kommentarlos 983]

5 hours ago, Kommentarlos said:

 

To travel to the UK perhaps?

 

Lets see.

[HEM 11,165]

17 hours ago, Derek said:

So on the UK passport renewal it must have had a box to tick along the lines of "have you got citizenship in any other country?" I guess.

 

It does - also in the online application method.

[Kommentarlos 983]

On 28.11.2019, 20:56:53, Kommentarlos said:

 

Lets see.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7744961/Visitors-EU-need-electronic-visas-enter-Britain-Brexit-pledge-Tories.html

 

EU member states will no longer be able to travel to UK with ID card and must apply in advnce to enter. 

 

And so it begins. 

[dj_jay_smith 3,449]

4 minutes ago, Kommentarlos said:

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7744961/Visitors-EU-need-electronic-visas-enter-Britain-Brexit-pledge-Tories.html

 

EU member states will no longer be able to travel to UK with ID card and must apply in advnce to enter. 

 

And so it begins. 

 

 

They have already said for a while that they would stop accepting ID cards from end of 2020, so that is not new.

 

And it is also to be expected that a pre-clearance would be needed if the EU introduces the same for UK citizens, which it will do.  A lot of countries have this already.

 

[Kommentarlos 983]

12 minutes ago, dj_jay_smith said:

 

And it is also to be expected that a pre-clearance would be needed if the EU introduces the same for UK citizens, which it will do.  A lot of countries have this already.

 

 

And now announced from the UK side.

[snowingagain 5,470]

The EU had agreed that the new pre clearance for non EU citizens entering the EU would not be applied to UK, if reciprocated.  The UK have now chosen not to do this.

[sos-the-rope 619]

So, I never got the invite to go shake the mayor's hand and meet my fellow new German citizens. I'll be 1 year a citizen next month and no fancy party :-(

[Keleth 9,348]

2 minutes ago, sos-the-rope said:

So, I never got the invite to go shake the mayor's hand and meet my fellow new German citizens. I'll be 1 year a citizen next month and no fancy party :-(

Me neither,just got to stand up in the office and say the pledge or whatever you want to call it.

[Derek 1,027]

15 hours ago, Keleth said:

just got to stand up in the office and say the pledge or whatever you want to call it.

 

Same for me.

[sos-the-rope 619]

22 minutes ago, Derek said:

 

Same for me.

 

@Keleth I guess if I'd chased them up they might have invited me ;-) Even the citizenship application seemed to depend on that at one point. I didn't even get shirty with them, I genuinely wanted to check that I'd done everything from my side, but I guess it came across as a passive-aggressive "hurry up!"

[kiplette 8,804]

People who are living in areas where they can't get citizenship because their qualifying years were under SOFA and didn't count - at the meeting in Paderborn back in Nov/Dec (I didn't go, but heard reports) it was said that this has been reversed and those years will now count. 

 

If you are in that situation it may be worth checking that you have everything ready to hand in, all documents checked/translated/tests done so that you can whizz in to your Ausländerstelle and get the thing in motion asap.

 

If anyone hears the definitive statement, please share!

[AdHa 55]

On 11/28/2019, 3:35:29, Derek said:

 

...I think I'll find it easier going into Britain using my UK passport, none of the "what's the purpose of your visit" nonsense...

 

 

You may be disappointed. I made a trip across on the ferry just before Christmas on my UK passport and got asked at UK checkpoints on arrival+departure where I was going/had been, how long I was going for/had been and the reason for my visit. Security seems to have been getting tighter, even since a trip I made across in October.

[murphaph 9,865]

The whole UK esta thing is a bit of a joke as anyone from the EU can just fly to Dublin and from there to GB without being checked. There are no passport controls on ex-Ireland flights to GB. Ireland can't and won't be passing on details of EU citizens to the UK post Brexit.

[john g. 37,776]

A week is a long time in politics, murphaph. A bomb here, an attack on a mosque there etc. You never know,

[murphaph 9,865]

That's the thing John, they can't impose passport controls along the Irish border for sensitive political reasons and for the same reasons can't impose them on NI-GB traffic either. If the UK started imposing checks on flights ex-Dublin then those wanting to enter the UK undetected can still simply fly to Dublin, take coach to Belfast and fly from there.

[Derek 1,027]

15 hours ago, AdHa said:

 

You may be disappointed. I made a trip across on the ferry just before Christmas on my UK passport and got asked at UK checkpoints on arrival+departure where I was going/had been, how long I was going for/had been and the reason for my visit. Security seems to have been getting tighter, even since a trip I made across in October.

 

I also did the ferry trip (Amsterdam <-> Newcastle) with my German-registered car just before Christmas on my UK passport (both ways) and never got asked at either end what my deal was. Security seems to be getting looser ;-)

[HEM 11,165]

2 hours ago, Derek said:

I also did the ferry trip (Amsterdam <-> Newcastle) with my German-registered car just before Christmas on my UK passport (both ways) and never got asked at either end what my deal was.

 

I did that trip in similar circumstances in October 2018 & I wasn't asked WHY I was doing this either. 

I WAS asked whether I had weapons on board (the UK side both entering & exiting). 

It will be "fun" when I repeat the visit end September 2020 with same car & a 9m long trailer with a German-registered sailplane inside!

[dj_jay_smith 3,449]

When coming back from UK in Dec then I noticed that there are now UK Police checks on exit from UK on Le Shuttle.  This is in addition to UK passport and French passport checks.  So you now have to show your ID 3 times.

 

We were never asked the purpose of visit.  But in my experience having a UK passport makes no difference, as they just ask "where have you been and what was the purpose of that trip?".