Brexit / Applying for German citizenship

[anne k 3,643]

Everyone I know has congratulated me on becoming German, hugged me and welcomed me into the club...

Whenever people made any stupid comments about foreigners not integrating or not speaking German with their children etc. I always used to point out that I was a foreigner too, and didn't fit in with their prejudices - but even then, when I was just British, they always used to shake their heads and say that I didn't count. Now I can't even tell them I'm a foreigner any more! So basically my problem is that I wish people would accept me less as a German

[AnswerToLife42 2,491]

15 hours ago, HEM said:

 

Even back then the Gunns were Big Shots!

 

(I'll get my Jack Wolfskin...)

A Jack Wolfskin jacket definitely counts more than a German passport!

[sos-the-rope 619]

30 minutes ago, anne k said:

Whenever people made any stupid comments about foreigners not integrating or not speaking German with their children etc. I always used to point out that I was a foreigner too, and didn't fit in with their prejudices - but even then, when I was just British, they always used to shake their heads and say that I didn't count.

 

You should always ask *why* you "don't count". Usually there's no need to argue or get angry. Just keep asking why.

[anne k 3,643]

3 hours ago, sos-the-rope said:

 

You should always ask *why* you "don't count". Usually there's no need to argue or get angry. Just keep asking why.

Oh, don't worry, I always follow the motto "don't wrestle with a pig" (present company excepted obviously). And I'm too old to get angry!

[sos-the-rope 619]

3 minutes ago, anne k said:

Oh, don't worry, I always follow the motto "don't wrestle with a pig" (present company excepted obviously). And I'm too old to get angry!

 

 

Sure. But you have to call them out on this stuff every time.

 

I'm just discovering James O'Brien for the first time. He's great as a model of how to do this, just giving them enough rope...

[Acton 1,616]

4 hours ago, anne k said:

But it was the one for EU citizens and won't count if and when the UK is no longer in the EU.

The person at the Ausländerbehörde office in Berlin was quite aware that I needed this, as a British citizen, to stay in Germany after Brexit.So I must contradict you Anne k, This is a residence permit for me irrespective of what happens later.

[sos-the-rope 619]

1 minute ago, Acton said:

The person at the Ausländerbehörde office in Berlin was quite aware that I needed this, as a British citizen, to stay in German

after Brexit.So I must contradict you Anne k, This is a residence permit for me irrespective of what happens later.

 

The question is not what you need, but what you're eligible for.

[Acton 1,616]

Also, the person told be to be sure to carry the permit forward when my passport expires in 2023, long after Brexit methinks.

[anne k 3,643]

Acton, you know best what's in your passport Sounds as if you got it recently enough for it to be a post-Brexit vote version or something. Hope it works out well for you.

[Chris Marston 61]

On 04/08/2019, 16:45:08, anne k said:

Im proud to be German and British.

Acton, what kind of (truly) permanent residency do you have? Not the one for EU citizens, presumably?

I reckon it is a Niederlassungserlaubnis.

[Acton 1,616]

12 minutes ago, Chris Marston said:

I reckon it is a Niederlassungserlaubnis.

Correct. 10 out of 10 Chris!

Anne k? Why would a EU citizen need a residence permit?

[Chris Marston 61]

Hm. This makes me wonder what would constitute a 6 out of 10.

[Acton 1,616]

4 hours ago, Chris Marston said:

Hm. This makes me wonder what would constitute a 6 out of 10.

Maybe a half-arsed reply? BTW Chris, I still don't feel sorry for myself.

[ashchar 62]

20 hours ago, Chris Marston said:

I reckon it is a Niederlassungserlaubnis.

How long is the Niederlassungserlaubnis valid for when given to British people given the Brexit situation?

[Acton 1,616]

8 hours ago, ashchar said:

How long is the Niederlassungserlaubnis valid for when given to British people given the Brexit situation?

Do you know what ' unbefristet ' means?

https://www.dict.cc/german-english/unbefristet.html

[anne k 3,643]

On 13.8.2019, 11:15:55, Acton said:

Correct. 10 out of 10 Chris!

Anne k? Why would a EU citizen need a residence permit?

I didn't say they would; quite the opposite, I said that single-nationality Brits will need one after Brexit as they won't be EU citizens.

 

Until now I had an "unbefristete" permit for EU citizens, which will indeed no longer be valid, despite the name. You have a permit for non-EU citizens.

[Acton 1,616]

20 minutes ago, anne k said:

I didn't say they would; quite the opposite, I said that single-nationality Brits will need one after Brexit as they won't be EU citizens.

 

Until now I had an "unbefristete" permit for EU citizens, which will indeed no longer be valid, despite the name. You have a permit for non-EU citizens.

I'm afraid I'm really confused now. You are a British national, right? Why did you need this when the UK was in the EU?

[ashchar 62]

4 hours ago, Acton said:

Do you know what ' unbefristet ' means?

https://www.dict.cc/german-english/unbefristet.html

Yes I do. 

For those reading who don't know what it means, it means the period is unlimited.

[Kommentarlos 983]

2 hours ago, Acton said:

I'm afraid I'm really confused now. You are a British national, right? Why did you need this when the UK was in the EU?

 

Some UK people, perhaps not anne k personally,  moved to DE before freedom of movement. The residence permit they previously held and then was no longer necessary will be no longer valid after Brexit and they need to apply to the local Ausländerbehörde like everyone else.

[HEM 11,165]

2 hours ago, anne k said:

Until now I had an "unbefristete" permit for EU citizens, which will indeed no longer be valid, despite the name. You have a permit for non-EU citizens.

 

I also have one of these.  Issued February 1990.