Brexit / Applying for German citizenship

[French bean 3,463]

Is your glass half full or half empty?

[sos-the-rope 619]

21 hours ago, Derek said:

The Government structure questions were troubling me so I thought I'd make a diagram of who controls what and who votes for what. It got real complicated.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I just

 

a) drilled the questions till I got a decent amount right and

 

b ) looked up stuff on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Germany

 

[SusieT 404]

1 hour ago, Derek said:

 

Because getting 90% right (out of all 310 questions) means there are still 31 questions I'm not getting wrong.

 

It only needs for half of those questions to show up in the selected 33 that I'm tested on and I'm close to failing.

I have just done the test and I have problems remembering thos soert of questions. There were only 2 on the test paper that I was given, and with 33 questions that are split between history, your area, general legal, voting etc there will be very few on the structure and who firs where in everything. 

I would say to go for it, then you have ticked the box 

[sos-the-rope 619]

1 minute ago, SusieT said:

I have just done the test and I have problems remembering thos soert of questions. There were only 2 on the test paper that I was given, and with 33 questions that are split between history, your area, general legal, voting etc there will be very few on the structure and who firs where in everything. 

I would say to go for it, then you have ticked the box 

 

yeah, do the practice test and you'll see that it's a good old mix of topics:

 

http://www.bamf.de/DE/Willkommen/Einbuergerung/OnlineTestcenter/online-testcenter-node.html;jsessionid=9C5FD3FE5F00197B49B77C46CA25E6A8.1_cid368

 

[dj_jay_smith 3,449]

13 hours ago, Derek said:

 

Because getting 90% right (out of all 310 questions) means there are still 31 questions I'm not getting wrong.

 

It only needs for half of those questions to show up in the selected 33 that I'm tested on and I'm close to failing.

 

 

Technically yes, but I think in reality it will be OK.  It is likely that you are failing on the most difficult ones, but the real exam is a mix question and levels of difficulty.

 

I suggest using this website to take dummy tests and practice:

 

https://www.einbuergerungstest-online.eu/einbuergerungstest/

 

 

Once your select your state, then you will see towards the top a small section which says "Modus" and gives you different options for the difficulty.

If you can still get 90% on the "sehr schwer" level then you will ace the real exam!  

I used this website to practice for my exam.  I started on the standard level and then later done the harder levels and if nothing else it builds up confidence!

 

BUT:  Before your exam I suggest going back to the "standard" level.  This is more realistic to the real exam, and hence you get a good range of the questions from all levels.  It is important to do this, as otherwise you might forget a really simple question.

 

Standard is a realistic test and all you really need to practice on to pass the exam, the other levels help you get better.

 

This is basically what I done, and I manged to get 100% on my test!

 

[pappnase 2,653]

The pass rate on the citizenship exam is staggeringly high, so if you are regularly getting 90% I would say just go for it. 

[Derek 1,027]

14 hours ago, Derek said:

 

Because getting 90% right (out of all 310 questions) means there are still 31 questions I'm not getting wrong.

 

 

LOL. I even got that the wrong way round ... "there are still 31 questions I'm not getting wrong" :-)

 

13 hours ago, SusieT said:

I have just done the test and I have problems remembering thos soert of questions. There were only 2 on the test paper that I was given, and with 33 questions that are split between history, your area, general legal, voting etc there will be very few on the structure and who firs where in everything. 

I would say to go for it, then you have ticked the box 

 

1 hour ago, dj_jay_smith said:

Technically yes, but I think in reality it will be OK.  It is likely that you are failing on the most difficult ones, but the real exam is a mix question and levels of difficulty.

 

I fully agree that it'll probably be OK, but practicing and practicing until the test. I'm just making sure it's even more likely.

 

1 hour ago, dj_jay_smith said:

I suggest using this website to take dummy tests and practice:

 

https://www.einbuergerungstest-online.eu/einbuergerungstest/

 

That's the website I used, but rather than take dummy tests I went through all 310 questions.

 

The easy ones that I knew I'd always get right I thought no more about. But the ones where I got the answer wrong, I took screen-captures of that question (once with the question only, and once where it showed the answer). At the end of the first ever run through I had about 25% wrong (70 wrong answers / 140 screen-captures. I named them all appropriately (e.g. 006a, 006x, 022a, 022x) so that they'd sort nicely in a folder. Then copied them to my phone, to my tablet, and onto a USB drive that I plugged into my TV-box. I then spent two weeks (up until today) going through the screen-caps in order once a day (15 minutes or so). When I got to the stage where I was always getting certain answers right immediately, those screenshots would be deleted from the folder. I'm now down to about 20 questions in that folder and I'm ready :-)

[SpongeOver 320]

23 minutes ago, Derek said:

That's the website I used, but rather than take dummy tests I went through all 310 questions.

 

The easy ones that I knew I'd always get right I thought no more about. But the ones where I got the answer wrong, I took screen-captures of that question (once with the question only, and once where it showed the answer). At the end of the first ever run through I had about 25% wrong (70 wrong answers / 140 screen-captures. I named them all appropriately (e.g. 006a, 006x, 022a, 022x) so that they'd sort nicely in a folder. Then copied them to my phone, to my tablet, and onto a USB drive that I plugged into my TV-box. I then spent two weeks (up until today) going through the screen-caps in order once a day (15 minutes or so). When I got to the stage where I was always getting certain answers right immediately, those screenshots would be deleted from the folder. I'm now down to about 20 questions in that folder and I'm ready :-)

 

Hi, I use an App called Leben in Deutschland Test.

What's nice about it, it runs a test simluator, let's you practise random ones, practise in Categories or according to your mistake statistics. (At least once wrong, mostly wrong, last answered wrong etc)

 

Maybe this could help with your test practise.  

[Derek 1,027]

45 minutes ago, SpongeOver said:

 

Hi, I use an App called Leben in Deutschland Test.

What's nice about it, it runs a test simluator, let's you practise random ones, practise in Categories or according to your mistake statistics. (At least once wrong, mostly wrong, last answered wrong etc)

 

Maybe this could help with your test practise.  

 

That sounds good. I would have given that a try, but I'm all done now :-)

[pappnase 2,653]

Make an appointment for the test already, then prepare for it to a fixed end-date, it focuses the mind rather well. The earlier you start getting your paperwork together the earlier you will finish and the more likely it will be that you get done before Brexit.

Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.

 

[Billybulldog 43]

I used the App for practice. Got 100%....I had to really as otherwise my German mates would have laughed at me. It was very easy for someone brought up in Europe with a passing interest in History, “which Treaty was signed at end of WW1? Why is Willy Brandt kneeling in Warsaw? How many states are in Germany etc.” and easier than doing the Hunde Fuehrerschein  (there I really sweated)!

[zwiebelfisch 7,067]

On 14/04/2019, 18:07:59, Derek said:

 

Because getting 90% right (out of all 310 questions) means there are still 31 questions I'm not getting wrong.

 

It only needs for half of those questions to show up in the selected 33 that I'm tested on and I'm close to failing.

 

Less than 2% of people who sit the test fail, and Id imagine way more than 1 in 50 attempt it with zero preparation. I seriously doubt that anyone getting 90% in practice exams has any real chance of failure.  

[Kommentarlos 983]

47 minutes ago, zwiebelfisch said:

 

Less than 2% of people who sit the test fail, and Id imagine way more than 1 in 50 attempt it with zero preparation. I seriously doubt that anyone getting 90% in practice exams has any real chance of failure.  

 

True but some people are not natural test takers. I am impressed that someone has taken the time to show their way of preparing. Perhaps it is of help for other TT members.

 

Better to be overly conscientious I think rather than to swing the other way and simply admit defeat.  

[Derek 1,027]

8 hours ago, pappnase said:

Make an appointment for the test already, then prepare for it to a fixed end-date, it focuses the mind rather well. The earlier you start getting your paperwork together the earlier you will finish and the more likely it will be that you get done before Brexit.

Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.

 

 

Not sure why you thought I hadn't made my appointment. I had my test today. There were 20 questions I'm 100% sure I got right. Others reduce a little in percentage-confidence. I reckon I got between 26 and 30 correct.

[pappnase 2,653]

I'm not sure either, sorry for the mistake and good luck with your application.

[kthxcia 14]

Is there an expiration date on the  Einbürgerungstest? I want to get that test out of the way, but it will be a good few months before I am in a position to sit my B1 exam...

[2B_orNot2B 8,451]

3 hours ago, kthxcia said:

Is there an expiration date on the  Einbürgerungstest?

 

No, there's not!

 

2B

[kthxcia 14]

8 hours ago, 2B_orNot2B said:

 

No, there's not!

 

2B

Thanks.

[Chris Marston 61]

Is a British birth certificate in form of a Multilingual Standard Form (MSF) accepted for the Einbürgerung?

[murphaph 9,844]

Nobody but your case worker can answer that. I have heard that certs in English are accepted but in my own case I had to get mine translated. It'll be different in every Landkreis. Some may accept this format while others may refuse.