Brexit / Applying for German citizenship

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Hi folks, I am writing a report about a possible Brexit and how it could affect british expats. What do you think about this? Did any of you ever consider applying for German citizenship?

Susanne

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I hear the French will be issuing appointments, at the rate of one for every 100 migrants who cross through Calais. :)

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Although I am registered here as a Brit, I will not need to take German citizenship as I also have an Irish passport. And I'm probably not the only Brit with this option.

 

At a guess, I imagine that most other Brits living here would seriously consider the option of German citizenship. However, that would depend on what the German government's policy would be for Brits living here in the event of a Brexit.

 

Arguably, the German government would either issue those Brits not wanting to become German with the usual/current permanent residence/work permits currently issued to non-EU citizens or some sort of other, special resident/work permit. The former option would be simpler.

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I already have dual Australia/British citizenships. Perhaps the option of dual/multiple citizenship with Germany or other EU countries would also be available..? If it were, I would take that option (probably by way of marrying the BF). If not, I'm not sure what I would do. I certainly wouldn't be willing to requenquish my existing citizenships for German citizenship...

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7 hours ago, kaffeemitmilch said:

Brits, after exercising treaty rights here for five years straight, are automatically permanent residents already. Not sure if the card is issued, though.

Thanks, What will happen though after 5 years if you work overseas and return say after another 5 years. Can you still bring your non EU wife / partner?

 

Update 

 

Looking on other sites it would appear you lose it after two years.

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17 hours ago, GoBike said:

Thanks, What will happen though after 5 years if you work overseas and return say after another 5 years. Can you still bring your non EU wife / partner?

 

Update 

 

Looking on other sites it would appear you lose it after two years.

Most countries the same- lose PR if you leave for more than 2 years.

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@ RachSW:

Do the German authorities know about your Australian citizenship?

If they do, you will not be able to obtain German citizenship without giving up your Australian citizenship.

As a Kiwi, I'm in the same boat.

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There are ways of keeping both.  For example you get a letter from your employer stating that you will need your aussie passport still due to needing ,in the future, longish stints back in the home country plus a handfull of other exceptions. So if youre pulling beers in a pub then youll deffo have to relinquish your aussie/kiwi one.

 

Considering WW3 could break out soon id hang onto those southern out of the way passports :)

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On 15 March 2016 at 14:29:10, kaffeemitmilch said:

Brits, after exercising treaty rights here for five years straight, are automatically permanent residents already. Not sure if the card is issued, though.

 

Now that we have a (very rough) timescale, I'm worried I won't have been here long enough exercising my much beloved treaty rights to get the automatic residence.

 

What's the likely outcome?

 

I'll have been here living, working and paying taxes etc for three years this October.

 

the clock starts ticking next March, and I hope it keeps ticking for the whole two years, then I get my five years in!

 

But what if it doesn't? Will the German government fast track us to German citizenship out of pity? Fairly safe to assume those of us who built our whole lives here are enthusiastic Europeans?

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People under 5 years will really depend on the will of Parliament.

 

I would not be so worried as you moved here before Brexit so I suspect you will be fine.

 

Worst case scenario is if the EU wants to really punish the UK for leaving then it could in theory kick all Brits out.

 

I also would be amazed if the German government changes the citizenship laws just for Brits.

 

 

 

 

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26 minutes ago, RenegadeFurther said:

People under 5 years will really depend on the will of Parliament.

 

I would not be so worried as you moved here before Brexit so I suspect you will be fine.

 

Worst case scenario is if the EU wants to really punish the UK for leaving then it could in theory kick all Brits out.

 

I also would be amazed if the German government changes the citizenship laws just for Brits.

 

 

 

 

 

I also wouldn't want the whole law to change just for a few of us Brits. But hopefully they might grant a one-time exemption if we prove willing by jumping through whatever hoops they choose to set up?

 

Has there been any other concrete sign from the Bundesregierung? The Greens' message is very touching.

 

Is there any constructive way we Brits who'd like to stay and live here can make this known to the German parliament?

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