Volkswagen emissions scandal: NOx & CO2. Diesel & Petrol engines now involved.

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I thought it would be best to add this thread here, even though there is another thread also running.

 

The impact here for the German car industry could be huge and even for the wider German economy.

 

This seems to now be the main news, bigger than the refugee story on a lot of the news channels and could possibly

have a bigger impact.

 

South Korea have said they will test all German cars.

 

Adding a link.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11880921/Made-in-Germany-lies-in-the-gutter-after-Volkswagen-caught-cheating.html

 

 

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I think it applies more to US emission regulations, which were created to keep European Diesels out of the market. For several reasons (big post) the US government does not want diesel cars.

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I think it applies more to US emission regulations, which were created to keep European Diesels out of the market. For several reasons (big post) the US government does not want diesel cars.

 

You believe that the US government concocted this to keep out diesels?  Wow.

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What a surprise. Just after GM's ignition key scandal (more than 170 people killed) has been quietly buried with a moderate payment of 900 million Dollars, it's now again a major foreign company that is in line for a shake down. BP, Toyota, BNP - while US companies usually get away with a slap on the fingers. It's probably our own fault for not going after US companies with massive demands.

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So now we are going with, "this is all a conspiracy, against non US companies".

 

Volkswagen has admitted cheating the emission test.

 

The EU has gone after Microsoft, and opened cases against Qualcomm and other US companies.

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US is the only country in the world which punishes its own companies for bribes given worldwide. I can criticize the US for lots of wrongdoing but not in this case. Defending VW tricks is pathetic.

 

German companies cheat on everything: fuel consumption, CO2 emissions. This was confirmed by lots of independent tests, but no reaction from the authorities. And, surprise surprise, this ended in this. One can't cheat forever.

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It's not a question of violating the law. VW admitted to this. It's a question of how aggressively US authorities pursue such companies. There it is evident that US companies get a much better deal.

As to other countries going after US companies for violations of the law, it's just pathetic.

Microsoft got away with paying 560 Million Euros. That's small change for them. The US financial companies that were at the bottom of the economic crisis in 2008 got away for free. US tech companies aren't even threatened with action over their violations of privacy rules etc.

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No,

 

the real question is : How can you be so stupid. And in the case of Volkswagen my bet is that their greed and their self-imposed pressure to become the biggest car manufacturer in the world lead to activities of which at least some high ranking members of their board must have known that it's a serious breach of law. And confidence.

Basta. They deserve it.

 

The fact that we will find out many more car manufacturers who maniulated their results  all over the world is another story.

 

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It's all a load of BS.  VW will settle for near to $1B, and the problem will disappear.

 

It's little more than a tax on being the number 1 seller in the US.   Shameful, really.  

 

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You believe that the US government concocted this to keep out diesels?  Wow.

Complex issue, long explanation, but the US has almost no diesel refining capabilities. And the few refineries it has do not produce good quality diesel, also for a long list of reasons.

 

As an example, Portugal refines and exports diesel to US, for machines which need premium diesel.

 

So contrary to EU goverments, the US government has no advantage on promoting diesel engines.

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All through history German Governments and companies have engaged in the unfortunate habit of boasting and bragging about successes obtained by illicit and deceptive practices, simply put lying and cheating.

Had it not been for the incessant grandstanding in the first place and the near fanatical desire to be Nr. 1 even in the most trivial of pursuits, they would have never been caught as often.

This is so predictable it’s comical.

Please excuse my snickering  

 

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All through history German Governments and companies have engaged in the unfortunate habit of boasting and bragging about successes obtained by illicit and deceptive practices, simply put lying and cheating.

Had it not been for the incessant grandstanding in the first place and the near fanatical desire to be Nr. 1 even in the most trivial of pursuits, they would have never been caught as often.

This is so predictable it’s comical.

Please excuse my snickering  

 

Makes you wonder if anyone would dare to dump such a steaming pile of shite in here if any other nationality were involved.

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