Life in Darmstadt vs. Frankfurt

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You could always try here: http://www.english-club-darmstadt.de/

 

When I first moved to Darmstadt you couldn't move for Brits (around a 1000) but thats dramatically reduced now.

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And if you have a dog, Darmstadt has just won the "Germany's most dog-friendly town" award :) .

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And it has the Bahnhof of the Year :) .

 

http://www.allianz-pro-schiene.de/presse/pressemitteilungen/2010/040-bahnhoefe-des-jahres-2010-darmstadt-baden-baden/fakten-darmstadt.pdf

 

Edit: the mentioned Restaurant Fürstenbahnhof has since gone out of business...

 

-Martina

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Hi everyone,

we are moving to Darmstadt in the new year and currently considering a house in Arheilgen. We have young kids so are not looking for wild nights out just a safe suburb. Does Arheilgen fit this bill? cant find much about the place online.

cheers,

setter

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I'll probably get my head bitten off for this, but I've been told Arheilgen isn't the nicest of areas. One Mum at my work said to me it has some of the 'rough schools'. Sorry if I offend anyone who lives there, that's just what I've been told!

 

Where will you be working? Are your kids of school age?

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Arheiligen and (even more so) Kranichstein are maybe not top of the list here for most but they score on convenience for the northern businesses such as Merck. The stats for Arheligen on immoscout are good (highly educated populace, low unemployment). Again, as the other poster says, this is just relative, nothing really negative. Of the people I know who live there, they say it is not as bad as portrayed (that perhaps any negative image there may have been is outdated).

 

The affluent family types I know are gravitating to Bessungen and the central / east areas for the schools at the moment. (I have no idea how representitive this is). However there are also several towns that are not part of DA but are not really much further afield where families also congregate. The most notable is Griesheim (only 5km west-side and so well-located for ESOC/EUMETSAT types and those working in the centre) and there is also Pfungstadt and Weiterstadt. I don't really know the make up of DA-Eberstadt but some families I know have also moved there.

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I will be working in Langen and my kids will be going to the international school in seeheim, so local schools are not such a concern. I am more concerned with finding a pleasant area to live with a nice community. from what I have seen online the local community seems nice and it is only a short tram ride to Darmstadt centre or a 25 minute s-bahn ride to frankfurt. on paper it seems to be perfect.

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Do you have to be in a city? Seeheim is great to live in (or near; Pfungstadt, Zwingenberg, Eberstadt etc) and is right on the A5, so a 20-30 min drive to Langen or direct train from Auerbach, Zwingenberg, Bickenbach or Pfungstadt. The s-bahn 6 from north or central Darmstadt to Seeheim would maybe be an option for older kids, but if you're taking them it would be a lot of travel time.

 

btw Darmstadt to Frankfurt is a proper train, not s-bahn.

 

Good luck with the move

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Hi again

 

Will you be driving the kids to the school, or taking the tram? I work at the international school, and it's a 25 tram ride from the centre of DA, plus walk, to Seeheim. A drive takes about 15/20 minutes. With regards to the kids at the school, most of them live just south of Darmstadt centre or Seeheim-Jugenheim, so for your kids to socialise, that might be worth taking into consideration.

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thanks for all your input. After a frustrating visit last week to find a property south of Darmstadt and the difficulty of the lack of properties coming up to rent during the christmas period, we feel Arheilgen is still a reasonable alternative. Everything I have found on the internet seems fairly positive. I guess if it doesn't work out, we can always move again after a while as we are only renting. Not the end of the world.

thanks again

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After a frustrating visit last week to find a property south of Darmstadt and the difficulty of the lack of properties coming up to rent during the christmas period

The market in "in demand areas" (I'd forgotten Seeheim) is red-hot at the moment. The town is one of Germany's property "hot-spots". Has been the case for some time, the market has moved significantly in recent years. I only bought a couple of years ago but could barely afford it now! (There is another thread somewhere on TT about the specifics). Therefore, it is not the sort of place you can easily come to and take your pick and sort things in one visit. Even most locals have their tales of difficulties (I related on that other thread that a friend that advertised her place recently got 500+ enquiries).

 

What I'd do in your situ is find somewhere as an initial base and give yourself time to settle in and work out a longer term plan, but I reckon the easiest is probably live south and you do more commute really. Certainly, I'd not commit to buying until you know the local market better.

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My husband is fond of calling Darmstadt "Darmdorf" (village). He grew up in Berlin...I grew up in a town of 14,000 people in the US - to me this is a city. It seems the apartment market is actually a bit cheaper right now in Frankfurt vs Darmstadt. It was the other way around for a long time. I enjoyed our time here - we are moving at the end of February. I did not have a car here and public transportation from Darmstadt-Eberstadt to Darmstadt is great. There are tons of language schools and 40% of the people here are from another country. I have a friend in Arheilgen and he likes where he lives. They were working on the roads for a while there in the summer and that made things a little more confusing to drive but manageable.

 

I have a dog and we find plenty of places to walk and hike nearby.

 

Good luck in your search!

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Very informative forum.Just came across this forum... as person who has stayed in frankfurt a few times in the past, each time for several weeks,, including last stay of about a month, found frankfurt dang boring!!! compared to say Berlin, or munchen. I only passed thru darmstadt ( so close to Frankfurt, before you know it , train is passing thru Darmstadt Hbf) but from reading about it on this forum, i d probably prefer Darmstadt (over frankfurt) even with its strict rules or whatever. i like this sort of small , traditional even "suffocating bourgeois" . Darm. sounds like a nice tidy place , and yet with people with all kinds of different point of view . But then again i am biased towards germany! :) Darmstadt's going to be on the list to explore much more , hopefully on the next visit .

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Obviously it depends what is important to you as to which one you would choose. I have found this post really interesting - I have been living in Darmstadt for 3 months, I said I would go where the work is, and here it was. But it is driving me insane, so I have decided to move to Frankfurt and commute. Not looking forward to the journey to work, but at least in Frankfurt there might be people around in the evening and activities which aren't held at times to suit all the pensioners like here in Darmstadt. Bit of a shame - on the surface it looked like there would be plenty to do to keep me occupied, but I'm getting cabin fever and cannot wait to get out! I can see why Darmstadt would suit some people, particulalry families, but as a single, childless new arrival in my late twenties I feel like this place is making me old before my time!

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but at least in Frankfurt there might be people around in the evening and activities which aren't held at times to suit all the pensioners like here in Darmstadt.

What on earth do you mean? Go to Corroboree (the Aussie Bar) or that Mexican opposite. Go to Extrablatt. Go to Cafe Chaos. Go to Coffea (before its relatively early close). Go to Dreiklang or Corner or Salve. And there are many, many others. I've been to several in the last week alone and they are invariably packed in the evenings (barely got a seat in the gigantic place I've just been in and as ever felt totally intimidated by the mass of absolutely stunning young Germans there).

 

Go to one of the many gyms that have evening classes. Or one of the myriad salsa / flamenco / other dance classes. Go to a German course (that's where quite a lot of immigrants are in the evenings and where they make friends). Do something creative at the VHS. Go to the Jugendstil baths or the spanking (but not large) new one in Bessungen. Clubs / events are not my thing but the yuppie sort definitely exist here (Coffea certainly has one).

 

Jeez, I'm a bit older than you and I understand you because I thought the same on arrival. But now my only problem with my social life here is limiting it :) . If you can't eventually find a social life here - a place crawling with footloose and fancyfree mobile professionals and a zillion places right on your doorstep - it may not be easier anywhere else. It is by far the easiest place I have ever lived to amuse myself and meet many, many people - and I am saying that as a confirmed singleton - I very much doubt Frankfurt has more to offer :) . I did the "I wanna move to Frankfurt" as well but now I am so very glad I didn't, the barrier was my (lack of) connections and German, not the place.

 

Like many places, it looks a heck of a lot more sociable in summer of course, your timing probably has not helped there.

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