Consequence of not paying German taxes

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Now that the new year is here, it's time to think about taxes again. And I'm wondering what the implications of not filing could be.

 

I had lived in Germany for the last several years, but just moved away at the end of 2014, and have no plans to return back to Germany. I know I am eligible to pay for my earnings there for part of last year, but how serious is it if I simply ignored it? Mostly it's just out of laziness – having to deal with my accountant and the Finanzamt and transfer money internationally... I've pre-paid most of what I should probably owe for the year, but they seem to always want more, so maybe there is more. Not sure.

 

Anyone know just how bad of an idea this is, or on the contrary if maybe it doesn't matter too much either way?

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Oh and believe me i worked in the Münich airport for 2 years.They get a lot of poeple that are just flying in transit.The German system is like their cars very very efficient

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Thanks for the replies... That's actually quite scary! Guess I should just bite the bullet and call my tax lady to take care of it all. Better than the alternative it seems.

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I was told (perhaps wrongly) that filing a tax return is optional. At first this sounds great, not having to file a tax return. But then I bought WISO steuer:Start and plugged in my numbers. I see that I should get about 1300!! Now I want to go back and file for previous years and get that money back as well.

 

How far back can I go and file back tax returns?? How many years can I go back?

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It was 7 years, but the highest financial court (Bundesfinanzhof) has rolled it back to the last 4 years.

 

Since we now have 2015, you are allowed to submit the tax returns for:

 



  • 2014
  • 2013
  • 2012
  • 2011

 

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From the previous threads, i thought one can submit the tax declaration for 7 years. and I thought of doing a 2008 tax declaration in this year. Is it not possible any more? I am normal salaried and normally get some money back after submitting declaration.

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Funny this thread popping up at this moment.

Sorted all my stuff out to file for this year and remembered I didn't file for last year either so was going to do them both.

Also noticed I didn't file for 2006 either or 2011.Can I file either of them now,do I have to file any of them.Can I file nothing this year and do 11,13,14,15 next year?

I'm a normal salaried employee.

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You will have to do 2011 this year.

2006 would've been too long ago even under the previous - more generous - 7 year ruling, let alone under the present "last 4 years" rule.

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If you're a PAYE employee, does not filing just mean you don't get the refund you were entitled to?

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As long as you're a pay-as-you-earn employee who does not have to submit a tax return, then yes.

 

However, there are also employees who have to submit a tax return, e.g. if a couple has the tax class combo III/V and the spouse in tax class V also earns.

In that case you look at some serious late fees if you do not submit on time.

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I realize this is an old topic, but hopefully someone here can help me anyway.

I worked in Germany, but left back to the US in 2013. My mother was still in Germany until this year. She just arrived back in the US, and found some mail packed up that I recieved to her house in Germany in 2014, that she forgot about and never gave to me. This letter states that I owe about €1000 from the previous year with a demand for payment no later than December 2014. I am assuming it must be for taxes, as I can not think of anything else it could be, because I did not file my taxes before I left in 2013 because I only worked a few months that year. The demand for payment date was 3 years ago already. I am wondering if this is now already forgotten, as the german statute of limitations for debt is 3 years, or if I will still be held liable even past 3 years, because the money is owed to the state? Would that make a difference in the statute of limitations? I do not want to have any problems in Germany, but if this debt is already forgotten as 3 years has passed, then I will be glad to not have to pay.

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5 hours ago, Lara Adams said:

as the german statute of limitations for debt is 3 years, or if I will still be held liable even past 3 years, because the money is owed to the state?

 

For tax debt, the statute of limitations (= Zahlungsverjährung) is 5 years, see §228 AO: https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_ao/englisch_ao.html#p1584

However, that statute of limitations only applies if the Finanzamt never follows up on that demand for payment, i.e. if your case slipped through the cracks and they never got an executable court title against you, which is very unlikely.

 

Could you post a photo of that demand? 

Black out your name and private details.

 

Uploading it here will be a problem, since there's a 0.24MB size limit, I suggest you upload the pages to Tinypic instead, and then post the link to them here.

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