Astra 2F and 2E Now 2G - New satellites arrive

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Topic split: Astra 2F and Astra 2E - New satellite arrives

 

 

Hi all just thought Id let you know that the new satellite Astra 2F has now arrived at its correct position and will probably begin transmissions over the rest of this month. All public servicing broadcasters etc BBC ITV will move onto the new spotbeam for the UK. What this means for Uk tv reception in Germany is anyones guess- albeit most commentators believe that fringe reception will become more difficult and those in the east may find reception more difficult than now. For the technically minded read www.satellites.co.uk where it has been reported that test signals are already being sent out. It is believed that transponder transfers from 1N to 2F could happen vv quickly.

 

 

Please avoid cross-posting, stick to what it says in the title, thank you.

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Hi all, looks like the dreaded day has arrived, i can no longer get BBC anymore on my freesat box from Hamburg, so thats the BBC and Channel 5 , gone. See this link:-

http://www.a516digit...on-bbc.html?m=1

What i am wondering is there anybody else out there who have already purchased a larger satellite dish, and can still receive BBC?

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Haha yep, indeed, but think some have already answered and said the bigger dishes still receive BBC.

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Have a 1m dish in central Munich. On roof and used by two other parties (one LNB for German TV, one for UK).

Lost all BBC channels at satellite changeover during last week.

Signal came back in (quite viewable) yesterday at about 12.00 for an approximate 1 hour period before

fading out again. I was able receive signal on my Samsung F-series on the DVB-S2 tuner but the Sky box in

the other room stayed blank.

I'm not sure why the signal is suddenly viewable at certain times of the day but it would give me hope that

a 1.2m dish could be a alternative for a "high" roof installation and might work. For city locations I think that I speak for most

if I say that 1.5 m is not doable.

I would be surprised if the specialist satellite installers hadn't been prepared to test different dish sizes etc as soon as the changeover took place as it must have been known to the "business" that this was coming.

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I'm not sure why the signal is suddenly viewable at certain times of the day

Atmospheric conditions.

 

 

I would be surprised if the specialist satellite installers hadn't been prepared to test different dish sizes etc as soon as the changeover took place as it must have been known to the "business" that this was coming.

They were prepared, they are testing, it was known to the day.

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This from A516digital - " Hannover Germany, lost C5 a few months ago, yesterday BBC disappeared, various internet sites say ITV & C4 to follow soon, still getting all SKY channels and this afternoon BBC has come back on again - not sure if it is temporary???

Unknown 7 February 2014 15:08

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ITV and Channel 4 follow this week. Sky channels are broadcast using the pan-European beam, the free-to-air channels are on the UK spotbeam (which is tighter on the new satellites). In Hannover, you will experience daily variations in the signal strength. In the evenings, the signal drops off rapidly, as the spotbeam appears to do a wobble - only people in fringe areas notice this. You need to have at least 120cm or bigger dish for more stable reception. In Braunschweig, to the East of Hannover, 150cm is the absolute minimum. If you have a garden with space for a dish, go as big as you can!"

 

Read a full Q&A here http://www.a516digital.com/2014/02/q-uk-tv-satellite-changes.html?spref=tw

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Blarney

This is as I suspect

1 Metre in Munich may just be too small now.

So I am very hopeful that an upgrade to 1.2/1.25 will do the trick and maybe a 'special' LNB just to give it the extra edge if needed.

I am now stewing on the consequences of this increase in size e.g. the strain on the rusty pole I currently attach to.

I do not really have an alternative unfortunately.

I have already found some dishes out there for sale which weigh under 10 kgs

I wonder what the extra wind force will be.

Maybe I will go for the extra anchoring (a steel cable fastened to it) just in case it decides to go fly abouts....

So who will be the first to report on a larger working dish in the Munich area?

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Just east of Leipzig.

We lost all BBC, ITV, etc. and all the BBC radio last week as well.

We have a 1.2m Kathrein which we only put up October 2012, it's now useless.

And there is only 1 stream, so it's record or watch.

 

I will probably sell the dish.

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We lost our BBC channels except we have Sky 978, BBC RB2. So we got to see some Olympics but not much. We are in Taufkirchen but I have no idea how big our dish is, maybe a 1 meter.

 

My husband and I are not technical people and I am really worried that BBC will never come back! I miss my BBC World in the morning.

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Hello there

really big problem now after i tried tweaking my dish to get better reception yesterday. Before that it was ok half half in the bluebands all channels except BBC1234. Started to lose BBc 1234 last week. Now after tweaking my dish i have both blue bands nearly on full but my Sky+ box keeps telling me that i have no signal!

I live in Heidenheim an der Brenz BW and have a 60cm dish absolute no problems before only when really extreme weather!

 

Input 1 lock indicator O.k

Input 1 Network Null

input 1 transport stream Null

Is this normal?

 

Any help would be much appreciated!

Many thanks

Lee

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Looks like a 1.2M minimum with a 1.5 being safe is what will be required here in Hamburg if the A516digital link is somewhat accurate.

 

Before we all start upgrading, is there any chance that the 2G satellite launch later this year will have us all back here again with reception problems later in the year? Or will 2E remain as is, in terms of channels and signal strength once they are done tweaking it over the next few weeks.

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My dish was slipping further and further out of alignment over the last year until i got an engineer out. At one point, on freesat all i could get was c4 hd, four 7, and nothing on sky, no signal. I tried all the recommended sky alt default transponders, then for whatever resson, it became more 'forgiving' when i put in the sky atlantic transponder as default transponder. Then i got a few channels back as opposed to none.

 

Maybe it was only for the particular direction my dish was nudged off alignment, that it was still just barely within reception of sky atlantic transponder. if you do have some kind of alignment on sky, but not a great one, you could try the default transponder change to something it might let you get away with Until you can get the dish looked at.

 

It was purely trial and error that i found sky atlantic transponder worked in my case, and it meant the epg wasnt fully coming through, but at least it got my sky box back to a signal, and a few channels as opposed to no signal.

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Anyone out there know of anyone who has upgraded a dish or has still a full working system? What dish size for Munich?

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Now after tweaking my dish i have both blue bands nearly on full but my Sky+ box keeps telling me that i have no signal!

 

The signal strength meter on the Sky box measures a single frequency, but unfortunately it's not the frequency of any of the channels that have moved to the new satellites. If you've maximised strength on that signal (which is a very rough measurement in any case), then you are likely to be reasonably well aligned, but if you still can't see BBC, etc., then your dish is simply not big enough...

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@ YorkshireLad6

 

You seem to know your stuff! Any idea what size dish we are talking about for the Munich Area?

Is there really that much difference between north west Munich and south east Munich in dish size?

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Interestingly I had BBC SD back last night, a bit pixelated but watchable, with 98% signal strength and 10% (or so) signal quality (according to the not very believable signal meter in my medion box). It gives me hope that when they've stopped fiddling a bigger dish might do it.

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We lost most of our channels. We've got our sat man coming out next week or so with 1.20m dish to see if we can get a signal. If not, we can get an even bigger dish, I suppose. But then it's a space/cost factor.

 

Sorry if this question has been asked before. If a 1.20m dish doesn't work - Would subscribing to Sky give us the BBC channels again? Can't go the internet route because our village doesn't have fast DSL. We've got a fast LTE router but the download data is limited to 60GB. I presume that would be used up quickly if we were to stream TV.

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