Swearing at people and insulting them is illegal

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Hey Newbies,

 

Dawg has contributed more to this forum than most members, never mind a couple of newbies; if you don't like his particular style then perhaps you should try sending him a PM rather than subjecting the rest of us to your childish whining.

 

As far as Jake's mores... please Jake, you're in Europe, you made a choice to come here and in case you haven't noticed yet, Europe is different! Thank goodness.

Tim I'm not sure if you are aiming this comment at me or not. If you are, I would like to let you know I am not a "newbie", not that it really matters when it comes to the rantings of the "dawg".

I dont question the contribution that BD makes to the forum, it's just the way he sometimes goes about it. For me, his attitude really distracts from the quality of the information or advice he posts... and the icing on the cake was his own admission that he rips people apart for his and others amusement !

As for the comment about "childish whinning"... When in Rome !

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HA HA! You jest.

 

What was that terrible show you demanded be shown at The Arc? The one with all the people who can't sing but were anyway (in between crying)?

News and Sports indeed.

:lol:

OK, I'll rephrase: I only watch telly for news, sports, the odd film and DSDS :D

And I didn't demand! I asked all the other customers in the place, nicely, if they minded.

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BR, I think the point is that if as a parent you find something inappropriate for your children it's your job to censor it for them.
agreed, to an extent. I also think the state or society or whatever you want to call it has some responsibility to set an appropriate level as well though. Personally I think Germany has a good level so I have no problem with it

 

 

People find different things offensive, must we cater to everyone's specific needs?

No, of course thats impossible. I think an appropriate norm can be established though (which again I think Germany does well). But if someone wants to express an opinion in a relatively calm way that they find the norm not quite to their liking then I don't see the need to launch into them about being puritanical bible bashers who should get the hell out of the country. Its no different to someone ranting a bit about the fruit in Tengelmann

 

 

I personally find the violence on TV a far worse influence then the occasional nudity or sexual touching.
I think they are both ok, I only watch ZDF and ARD though and perhaps the odd film on other channels

 

 

Does that give me the right to demand they stop reporting on Iraq?

Well demand is probably a bit strong but you would be perfectly within your rights to mention on a TT thread that you thought the TV showing people being beheaded in Iraq (not that they actually show that anyway) was a bit much and had put you off your lunch. In fact that sort of 'complaint' would probably be met by much greater approval - people who complain about over exposure of pornography are usually ridiculed as some kind of puritanical weirdo. I don't really see it as being different to voicing disapproval over excessive violence. Personally it really doesn't bother me but I also don't have a problem with some people having a different level of tolerance than I do - I have no particular desire to try and convince them that my values are somehow better

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Some people are just nicer than others. Fighting it isn't going to get you anywhere, especially on here. Although looking back, most of the insults were coming from the source you are defending.

 

BR, I understand now that rather than defending the argument you were defending the right to argue. Can't disagree with that :)

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I don't really see it as being different to voicing disapproval over excessive violence.

Sorry, are you comparing the odd breast on german telly to videos of beheadings? :unsure:

 

I think part of the problem here is that North Americans are swamped with evangelical christians trying to dictate what is and is not allowed and most of us are, frankly, sick and tired of it. When it creeps up here we get defensive and more than a little aggressive. Don't worry though, no beheadings in the cards.

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I think part of the problem here is that North Americans are swamped with evangelical christians trying to dictate what is and is not allowed and most of us are, frankly, sick and tired of it. When it creeps up here we get defensive and more than a little aggressive. Don't worry though, no beheadings in the cards.

Seems to be a strange statement for this thread. I agree that the US is a bit too repressed due to these influences. But it would seem that the point of this thread, "insulting people is illegal in Germany" may be demonstrating that Europe has problems with what is allowed and not allowed.

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BR, I understand now that rather than defending the argument you were defending the right to argue. Can't disagree with that

pretty much exactly! I basically agree with you on the 'content', but I'm happy for others to have an opinion that differs, and don't feel the need to damn them as some kind of weirdo

 

 

Sorry, are you comparing the odd breast on german telly to videos of beheadings?

not particularly no, although thinking about it, why not? I'm not offended by a beheading on a grainy TV picture - it isn't my head after all, so why do the TV news choose to select that as being not suitable for viewing by me? Different people are offended by different things...doesnt make their point of view particularly less valid

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Seems to be a strange statement for this thread.

Several other posters have referenced 'bible thumpers', a term which has different connotations in Britain and North America. I was just trying to clarify things a bit.

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What about the situation where someone you do not know is spreading rumours about you ? Is this legal in Germany ?

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Germans, sheep, SHEEP I say! Baaaah.

 

Nothing like seeing a couple of German pedestrians standing at a red light, 2:00 in the morning, not a moving vehicle within 1000m

 

Baaaah.

 

Do lemmings have a distintive noise?

A (not too close) friend of mine was killed last year, at night, 'Nobody' on the street. Just one car and her. (If you wanna know exactly: It was a wednesday night, march 2007 past midnight, Oberbilker Allee - Café Knülle, Düsseldorf-Bilk, 50 m in front of traffic lights.) Sadly it was her fault and she ruined at least another life. If she had cared she'd be alive.

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What about the situation where someone you do not know is spreading rumours about you ? Is this legal in Germany ?

Can anyone help with that please ?

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Sure. If the intent is to insult and someone feels insulted, it doesn't matter which language you use.

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Well, I guess I had better get a grip. Last week alone, I called the guy who parked on our grass in front of my house (for the umpteenth time) an asshole. I gave the jerk in the Audi S4 who cut me off (from a side driveway) the 1 fingered salute and called him an asshole and then, the lady who jumped ahead of me in line (she literally elbowed me out of the way at the Fielmann in Schwabing) - well, she was the recipient of some of my classic insults.

 

Hmmm, maybe it was just the weather...

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So, to tack onto this (sorry, if this was mentioned here or on another thread...i thought I read it recently and can't find it).

 

So, on our way home tonight, we were driving down a road that is narrow-ish, but two cars can pass on it. So, my hubby was on our side, and the car coming the other way stopped as she wanted him to pull off the road, into a parking space, so she could drive by without putting her cigarette down. She had plenty of space to pass. Cars and trucks regularly pass each other on this road. Anyway, my hubby refused and stayed in his spot. Eventually, he flipped the lady the bird (yes, i know it is illegal...he doesn't seem to believe me that there is a potential fine for this). Anyway, she got out of her car and said we drove to fast, so she was unable to pass us (I have no idea what she means as she could have passed if she didn't have a ciggie in her hand). And, she pointed out how she would sue my hubby because you can't flip the bird here (yay!). Eventually she backed up AFTER another driver came up to her and told her to get out of the way. Unfortunately, as my hubby was now pissed, he called her the b-word as we drove by (where the ladies were then heard "did you hear that?!" So, I gather we are in trouble here. However, can someone confirm the fine is 1 month's salary? Also, in a driving disagreement, is there any law about driving while smoking? She had a cigarette in her hand the whole time, so only was holding the wheel with 1 hand.

 

Thanks in advance for your insight!

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