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Hi everyone,

 

You'll have to excuse me, this is the first time I have written on a forum of any description... so please be kind :-)

 

I am a personal trainer/ fitness manager living in the UK and am doing research into how the personal training industry differs in Germany from that in the UK. If anyone has information on the leading fitness agents, recruiters and gyms across Germany that would be awesome.

Over here a lot of PTs pay a monthly rental fee to gyms or agents to be able to train clients in a their gym. Some larger Health Clubs employ PTs and take a percentage of their income each month. Does it work like this over there and any idea on average fees?

Any idea on average how much an hour of PT costs? Is there a leisure industry or fitness industry specific recruitment website?

Any information would be greatly appreciated, I've been scouring the internet for ages but don't seem to be getting anywhere... mainly because I don't speak German and when I translate the page it doesn't seem to make sense!

Thank you in advance.

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IN the gym I go to, there was a guy from the UK a couple of years ago who tried to offer PT services to the members. But, it's a cheap gym and the area isn't really so well-off so he got no takers.

 

There are people who work there who will give you advice when you ask and who put together a plan for you, but as for someone hiring at PT there. Nope.

 

Try looking at the website for a group called Holme's Place.

http://www.holmesplace.de/en-de/clubs/#../../layout/images/slideshow/CLUBS/01.jpg

 

Click on the English button. I know that they sometimes have non-German speakers as members. One of my Japanese students used to go there.

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If the question boils down to is the market better for PT's, my suspicion would be that its like most jobs/industries - broadly similar.

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My gym has several personal trainers that seem to be quite busy. They even offer a PT membership where you pay a higher monthly fee that includes one PT session per week. I don't know the prices though, but will try to check.

 

Primtime Fitness

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I'd be interested to hear how you got on? Im in a similar boat at the moment.

 

I'm looking into moving to Dresden to live with my partner and am a qualified Personal trainer, group fitness trainer and kettlebell instructor.

 

Being English speaking could be a niche but only if there is enough demand :blink:

 

I;m also just looking into any job there at the moment to get me started.

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Being an English speaker could have its advantages, but not as advantageous as being a German speaker. I'm no expert on the Dresden area, but I'm sure that there's not enough demand to keep you entertaining only English customers.

 

My gym charges everybody about 60 euro per year personal trainer fee and from that we get unlimited free classes and personal trainer sessions. They also have apprenticeship programs and send the apprentices to all sorts of courses and certifications.

 

Your certifications may or may not be recognized, but your experience should get you in the door if you speak decent German.

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So glad this was on here I am currently training here in australia to be a PT (the demand here is big and I know some trainers here earn heaps $50+ an hour depending on how good they are)but I too am hoping to have a chance to live in Germany (or Holland) for a couple of years and I know once I finish my course there is a world wide company I can register myself with, so my next goal before I get there will be researching how much gyms charge (and improving my german) and seeing if I can offer cheaper pt sessions because my goal would be to work with people who would feel uncomfortable going to the gym for whatever reason even if initially I had to use my savings to support myself while I built up my name by offering free PT sessions.

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Being a regular Gym "Besucher" and living in Australia (while visiting Germany every year) I found it's nowhere near as popular there as it is here Bri. When I was in Germany for a lengthy period and became a member it was the owner who showed me the ropes, did a basic "fitness test" (that seems to be mandatory at some gyms there before joining), checked my form on some of the lifts and off I went. He was a really friendly fella though and we talked quite a bit. I asked him about Personal Trainers and he said they just don't have any need for them, he did it all himself. A few things to note though, the gym was fairly large (it had a fair amount of equipment), it was in a smallish town and it was the only gym in town. I have no idea how it is in bigger cities though, but that was my experience. I always thought it might be because people in Germany are just not as fanatical about the way their bodies look. In Australia, the weather and beaches can become a major motivator! :)

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I always thought it might be because people in Germany are just not as fanatical about the way their bodies look. In Australia, the weather and beaches can become a major motivator!

 

The PT's cant be doing their jobs properly then, as Australia has a much higher obesity rate than Germany ;)

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The PT's cant be doing their jobs properly then, as Australia has a much higher obesity rate than Germany ;)

 

Camm true that you are so right

 

bvb009, I was talking to my german son and he said that the fitness industry is only marginally smaller than Aus but it is cheaper, me personally I won't care I'd train people for nothing anyway as my hubby will be the main breadwinner.

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The PT's cant be doing their jobs properly then, as Australia has a much higher obesity rate than Germany

You're right, Obesity is through the roof here, but I felt that usually drums up PT business. It's funny how you usually see Gym membership skyrocket around November and then gradually slow down over the next few months as more and more people give up.

 

I often get asked in Germany what the national food is here to which I reply: "McDonalds". They laugh and think I'm joking lol.

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Hi Guys,

 

as you can tell by my sign in name, I am a personal trainer/health coach. I am currently in Thailand this year but have spent the last 6 years in Munich working as a personal trainer. I first lived near Stuttgart (Reutlingen) for about 1 year prior before moving to Munich and it was interesting trying to explain what I did for a living to people there. So I focused more on massage, diet, and writing exercise programs as people just wanted to be shown some exercises to do alone.

 

Munich however is a great city for PT. There are many expats who know about personal training and actively look for one(I placed an advert on Toytown which is still running http://www.toytowngermany.com/lofi/index.php/t99828.html ). Plus now more Germans realise the benefits of having someone coach you vs. trying to do it alone or not at all. There are now a lot more trainers in Munich since I started but also more people interested. My big advice is to start by getting in contact with EREPS (European Registry of Exercise Professional) www.ereps.eu to get recognition throughout Europe (need to show your certifications and they assign your level) plus they have insurance which is essential.

 

I hope that helps. Good luck!

Craig

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Sorry missed a chunk of my reply:

 

Some other points to kb79 questions:

It is a bit different here than in the UK (I worked in London for 5 years which was great as a PT, before meeting a German girl and changing location :))

Sorry I don't know of any fitness agents, or recruiters - I started with one in the UK before finding a permanent gym to work out of, but dont know of any here.

I first tried at an exclusive gym 'Fitness First Premium' (as I did that in London) but I was pretty unsuccessful (again this is over 6 years ago) and it cost about 500 per month. So I decided instead to open up my own small Personal Training Studio which was awesome.

Average rates in Munich for qualified PT's start about EUR 50 to EUR 100 with a few charging but you will find a mixed bag here of qualifications and experience as Personal training in Germany is relatively unregulated you dont need formal qualifications so you can just about do a weekend course and call yourself one.

 

Bri - Finally as an Aussie - have to sadly agree how bad the state of obesity is back home especially amongst kids. Number one for childhood obesity and I think number one for amount of Fast Food advertising during kids programming - maybe there is a link??? :blink:

 

Cheers

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Personal training in Germany is relatively unregulated you dont need formal qualifications so you can just about do a weekend course and call yourself one.

Your kidding me!! :blink:

 

Here you need a minimum Certificate 4 which is like $3000 government funded supposedly or through some Tafes it is $1000 plus these days more and more here you need a diploma (I'm currently working on obtaining that now) especially if you want to specialize ie work with the elderly or with kids you need a diploma.

 

Geez I so should have waited and studied in Germany... :rolleyes:

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Hello everyone,

I am Pilates instructor currently living in London, and I'm considering moving to Berlin in the near future.

In order to prepare better, I was wondering if there were any instructors here who could let me know what the basic requisites are in order to teach, apart from training of course.

For example:

are overseas training certificates valid?

do we need to purchase a professional liability insurance, and if so, can you be insured if you were trained overseas?

do we need to be registered with the taxman as self-employed before applying for a job?

how much do studios normally pay per hour? is it possible to make a living by teaching only in English while one learns German?

any important requisite that you can think of basically...

Anyway, for any piece of info that you can provide I would be more than grateful.

 

Thank you so much in advance.

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Hello guys,

 

Fully qualified personal trainer from Wales ex rugby player, kettle bell instructor, olympic lifting instructor, and group fitness coach experienced in coaching all age groups recently moved to Munich looking to connect with anyone who i can help out.

 

Happy to lend a hand to any groups or offices who may need some fitness advice.

 

Reply to the thread with any helpful tips or call my mobile.

 

Thanks 

 

Barry

 

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What gross salary might be expected for a 30-yo female who wants to work as a kick-boxing trainer, or tea-bo trainer, or similar (provided certification is recognized here). The amount doesn't need to be precise, it's just for orientation.

Thanks!

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On ‎23‎.‎09‎.‎2017‎ ‎15‎:‎30‎:‎37, java10 said:

What gross salary might be expected for a 30-yo female who wants to work as a kick-boxing trainer, or tea-bo trainer, or similar (provided certification is recognized here).

 

Gross salary would imply being employed, which is highly unlikely for a newly arrived foreign trainer in Germany. In all likelihood, she would need to be self-employed (with the necessary work permit) and her earnings would depend on her hourly rate and how many clients she could find.  

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Seriously, Tae-Bo? And I am a certified Cindy Crawford work out specialist.  Whig, beauty mark and leotard, the whole package.

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