Berlin family lives on nearly no money

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Following in the footsteps of Heidemarie Schwermer, Raphael Fellmer, his wife and 18 month old daughter are living with little money other than Kindergeld.

 

Their story is interesting. Has anyone tried foodsharing.de, or 'grocery store dump diving'? Related story: bin diving in Germany. "Members can log in or use a Smartphone app to see the address of nearby baskets or a pick-up time and place. They can then rate the transaction like ordinary online retailers."

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cool, just think if everyone in the world did that.

 

(living by love and the goodwill of others with little money other than Kindergeld) not as a victims of the rough economy, but as activists who are on a money strike to protest what they call our “excess-consumption society.

 

So, living off people that have excess?

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You can complain about everyone wasting things, but he seems to be a waste of space.

 

As you say, he is leaching off society without producing anything of need and nothing but hot steam coming out of his mouth. There is much more he could do, produce handmade goods, farming etc...seems he just rather get something for nothing, bumming off the goodwill of others.

 

For those who go back to basics I can admire, I also don't want to share a toilet with 10 other people, but do or make something that contributes to society.

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The one issue I have with the article is 'Germany has universal healthcare'. True, but it's paid by someone. If not this family, then the taxpayers.

 

But doesn't everyone have to pay for health insurance? Gardening in exchange for frauenarzt services? Paid for a midwife? Hmm.

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Fellmer, who said he’d held jobs since he was 12 years old

Mmmm. Unless that was in acting - which, well, we can't really call a job... §5 JArbSchG, anyone?

 

 

simply depending on the goodwill and excess resources of others [...] including a sailboat that took the trio from the Canary Islands to Brazil in exchange for crew duties

Right. Other places, they call that "hiring on". As in working for a gain. Don't they? It's just that most people would do that with a cargo ship, not a swanky sailboat. And they'd look for perhaps some spending money in addition to Kost und Logis.

 

Btw, regarding the universal healthcare bit, from an interview he gave taz a couple months ago:

 

 

Sie haben eine kleine Tochter. Sind Sie krankenversichert?

Ja, wir bezahlen vom Kindergeld die Familienversicherung für uns drei.

 

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And they'd look for perhaps some spending money in addition to Kost und Logis.

 

Vive la différence.

 

I think it's very brave and adventurous to hitchhike from Europe to México. I'd never do it in a million years! Seems only John G. (and arunadasi?) is so brave, out of the thousands of TTers. ;) OK, Fellmer probably should have brought some condoms along on the 'swanky' boat ride. :lol:

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He's planning to move his family to a commune in Italy apparently btw. Guess the church asylum he's living in isn't swanky enough.

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Well, he is becoming [in]famous, and we are not. So I guess that makes it easy to poke jabs at him. :P

 

I watched "Brüno" last night for the first time. The part where he is trying figure out something to do for 'humanity' so that he could acquire fame was pretty funny. But "Borat" was WAY better.

 

Interesting that no one is commenting on the saving of grocery store food from being thrown out, rather making snarky remarks about the barefoot douchebag. :lol:

 

I do wonder how much fresh bakery bread gets thrown out daily in Germany...

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Well, at least in Bayern the stale Semmeln get turned into Knoedelbrot and then cooked into lovely Semmelknoedel. Just toss some of that Knoedelbrot in my direction and I'll head over to the Cooking Today thread. :rolleyes:

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In his defense, he [...] works 40-50 hours/week [...] Am I therefore not producing anything of value?

 

Looking through past interviews he's made, he's actually transcended that Walden Two stage. He wants to not tag work with a value. Of course in the same interviews he betrays that concept by saying he's exchanged work for work or goods.

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Mmmm. Unless that was in acting - which, well, we can't really call a job... §5 JArbSchG, anyone?

 

He won't have had a legal contract but that doesn't mean he didn't have a job. On the weekends I sat in a little office and dispatched taxis, me being 13. Hours were counted on a loose sheet of paper and the money was handed over directly.

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I do wonder how much fresh bakery bread gets thrown out daily in Germany...

 

Loads. I saw a documentary about food ending up in the garbage in Germany and they talked to a baker who said that in the old days when you had 3 types of bread and 5 types of buns, it was easier to figure out how much you sell of what but these days, you have 17 brands of this and that and 10-20% of your products end up in the garbage. He had figured out a way to re-use his bread and got it ground up and pressed into pellets to burn for his ovens.

 

They also talked to a potato farmer who said 50% of his produce gets left in the field because the supermarkets will not buy them if they are too big, too small or funny shapes. He said he is happy to see people come and pick the rejects up off the ground because then it doesn't go to waste.

 

I see nothing wrong with dumpster diving because it's there for the taking, as long as ppl make sure they aren't eating or feedng their families something that's damaged and will make them sick. I don't do it myself because I'd rather spend my time working and making money to pay for the stuff myself as well as like others have said, we can't all live like that. If nobody buys anything at the grocery store, the store closes and there will not be a dumpster behind it to go dive in.

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