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Having a breech baby and looking for advice

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Does anyone here had experience/info on Breech Baby.,Techniques or Therapies used to turn the baby into the right position.Also please post the Hospital recommendations where they help you with normally getting the deliveries done.

 

I would like to get to know more information on getting the delivery of the baby normal but a big NO for a C-Section.

 

Highly appreciate your views,advice in this regard...

Thanks in Advance

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From talking to lots of mothers, most GYNs will recommend a C-section in cases where the baby is breech simply because the likelihood of needing one after labour begins is quite high and a planned section is much less stressful all round than an emergency.

 

If you want to try and turn the baby, ask your doctor about external cephalic version. This is normally a hospital procedure in the UK, I don't know about here. How far along are you? Most babies turn by 36-37 weeks, while just under 20% are breech at 32 weeks it's only 3-4% at 37 weeks without intervention, so don't panic.

 

You can also encourage the baby to turn using Optimal Foetal Positioning (can't find the link but I linked it in your thread about acupuncture, I think). Or look here for a few ideas.

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A friend of mine had this problem and I remember her mentioning that one of the remedies used to try to get the baby to turn is you should get on all fours and interesting things should happen on your butt end like music playing, people talking etc. The idea was that the baby might find that interesting and decide to turn to hear better but who knows. Whatever she did, it worked because the baby turned in her case.

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...get on all fours and interesting things should happen on your butt end like music playing, people talking etc. The idea was that the baby might find that interesting and decide to turn to hear better but who knows.

So make a noise from your butt to get the baby to turn around and see what all the commotion is about?

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My son was doing cartwheels in his mummy's tummy so I recommend Taxisklinik in Gern.

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How old is your Ob? Older ones have more experience with turning babies manually. Was on a long car trip with an old ob one time and he told me all about it. Old as in older than 55, younger than that probably doesn't do it very often...

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Our daughter only turned very late, so we were considering Klinikum Neuperlach, as they claim to specialise in breech positions (turning and birthing), but in the end we didn't need it and chose another hospital.

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Thanks everyone for your replies...

 

I am currently in the 34th Week

 

My OB should be in her 40s.Ten days back when I had an appointment with her..she said that I still have time and we could wait and watch and when I insisted she asked me to put pillows under my back and sleep..

 

But the Doctor at Rechts der Isar just told me wait for 2 more weeks and decide if the baby is still in that position they would go for a C-Section which I am not happy with ...

 

Anyways I have started MOXA Therapy with my Hebamme and looking for a positive outcome....

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Good luck Aks! I recently had a friend (in Munich) that had her baby manually turned in the 37th/38th week) She said it was more painful than the birth, which ended up being a drama on it's own. Baby decided head down was not for her and she turned herself breech again...so just know, there are no guarantees. I know how you feel about the C-Section, but in the end, do what's safest for your baby..holding them in your arms is a much bigger reward than saying that you pushed them out.

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One thing no one mentioned is that Germany and Munich in particular has an overall quite high cesarean rate-- I think we're hovering at somewhere around 30% or so, much more in some hospitals. Rechts der Isar is quite c-section and intervention happy, for example, so if you desire a less intervention heavy birth you might do well to look elsewhere. Ask your ob/gyn, they should know where you can access this info leaflet about the different hospitals in the area I forget the name of-- at least, they used to have these! Or call around. And the disclaimer is that cesareans are of course often needed and breech IS a complication, but it's not necessarily one that cannot be managed without a cesarean if certain conditions are met. And if you do end up needing a cesarean delivery, keep in mind it does not have to be one scheduled weeks in advance, unless this of course makes you feel more comfortable than the other options-- if you're a first time mom, labour will usually take quite a while to start up, and there are babies who WILL turn either before or during early labour.

 

Like Guy said, Klinikum Neuperlach does ECV's and breech births when not too risky. Ask them. And they do the ECV's under epidural anesthesia, so any discomfort you'll feel from turning your baby is going to be comparable to the that of having a cesarean baby pushed out (one obstetrician will lean heavily on the top of your fundus to get the baby out then!) only the recovery is easier, and you're of course left with fewer complications when it comes to future births and pregnancies through having no cut on your womb. One word of warning, though-- the Chefarzt at Neuperlach specialises in breeches and they've quite the nice delivery room staff, but the maternity ward is godawful and the breastfeeding support would you need it quite nonexistent, unless you luck out and get the one midwife on shift. (The rest are typical German maternity ward nurse-dragons.) But I hear this lack of post-birth support is pretty typical for many German hospitals, so better be prepared and armed with information and help.

 

Also, have you checked out spinningbabies.com?

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Better a planned c-section than an emergency one. Crossed fingers from Texas that the baby turns and you have a wonderful birth experience.

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I have got the Moxa Therapy done twice in addition to other exercises and tips from the Internet and lol my baby turned and it is in the right position..

 

Thanks once again for all your advice and tips...

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Better a planned c-section than an emergency one.

 

 

Absolutely! Won't get into details but I was all mentally set for a natural birth but then found out a week before I had a very high chance of needing an emergency caesarean which freaked me out so tried to book an elective one. Quite frowned upon here. Apparently only about 5% of elective ones are performed here in Munich.

 

 

I think we're hovering at somewhere around 30% or so, much more in some hospitals. Rechts der Isar is quite c-section and intervention happy, for example, so if you desire a less intervention heavy birth you might do well to look elsewhere.

 

 

30% may be total caesareans, mostly emergency I'm guessing. Based on my circles, I would say majority of my friends around the world have ended up with emergency caesareans, largely in part due to being older first time mothers, plus other reasons such as breech, cord around neck, head/pelvis ratios etc.

 

I had my first baby at Rechts der Isar and have to say, I had about 4 different people try and talk me out of a caesarean, so disagree with that comment. Most of the babies in the hospital when I was there were natural births. They have beautiful birthing facilities and offer many, many options for delivery. I will be having my next baby there for sure.

 

Ultimately everyone has different experiences and it's a healthy baby and mother at the end that matters, not how they were delivered.

 

Good luck to aks - maybe you've already had your baby by now. Hope it hasn't turned back around (like I did to my poor mother!).

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Hi,

My baby didn't want to turn either and I have tried several soft methods to make it turn in the 38th week or so - lying on your back, hips up, softly making turning movements with hands on belly (if you know which way the baby should turn), accupressure with some kind of smoking block on certain parts on the feet, etc.. I had high hopes, as in my husband's family babies turned literally the last hour before coming out (themselves).

However, nothing worked, and I ended up in hospital with my waters broken, with the Chef Arzt, with whom I had agreed beforehand that if the baby wouldn't turn on time, we would still try a normal birth. I tried for about 7 hours, but the baby didn't want to come out (even the 'access' was free). Her heart beat went down dramatically with every contraction and the doctors agreed that an emergency caesarian was necessary.

 

It turned out that my baby had the cord wrapped around her neck twice, and would never have been able to come out on her own. I feel sorry that I must have put her in a little agony with the 'soft turning methods' and maybe as well as with waiting for the caesarean so long, yet I do not regret with not having had a planned caesarean: baby and mother got all the right hormones and natural chemicals preceding the natural birth naturally this way, and therefore (?) there were no issues with e.g. breathing after birth, breastfeeding, the baby went full term, etc. etc.. I am happy as I got as close to a normal birth as I could have come in this case, yet am grateful for the emergency caesarean as without I would probably not have been able to write this note.

 

So, if all looks fine and the breech is relatively 'normal', then I would always go for a natural birth again and, if necessary, have an emergency caesarean. I would never want to plan the caesarean, but would definitely make sure I would have a doctor and hospital with whom I'd have it discussed beforehand, and whom I trust.

 

Good luck!

 

PS Though living in Munich now, I gave birth in Loerrach, Badem-Wuerttemberg

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It turned out that my baby had the cord wrapped around her neck twice,

 

Happened with our first-born 22+ years ago - discovered after they did a Kaiserschnitt after 10+ hours labour. Hes OK (now a student).

 

3 years later second child came via normal birth though it was a battle... She was born in the middle of a thunderstorm...

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