Berlin is the sex mecca of the world

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How did the German capital become Europe's sex tourism mecca for gays and straights alike?

 

Don-t-tell-mama - Haaretz - Israeli News

 

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In the last few years, Berlin's versatile sex scene has become a strong tourist draw. Indeed, there's something for everyone - men, women, gays, straights, S&M aficionados and esoteric fetishes. One can enjoy three museums and two orgies in four days. In The Lonely Planet Guide to Berlin, alongside the standard chapter called "Gays and Lesbians," an extra section is devoted to "Sex and Fetish," a heading that doesn't appear in the series' guides to other cities.

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What are you supposed to do with the other 95.5 hours?

 

Post in the adult section of TT telling everyone that you are in an open relationship but can't get your partner to engage in threesomes or gangbang.

 

(Pun intended. Attention: TT newcomers,I am not interested in any of the above so please don't pm me asking me if I am interested.)

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It's true and it's been this way for a while. I hand out condoms as part of a volunteer group supporting safe sex etc. Last weekend we went to a "naked sex party." Probably half of the 40 or so attendees were tourists. I am an American, so perhaps a bit of a prude, but I have never been in a place where sex parties happen so openly. In the US, they would be seedy. In Berlin it is just normal (relatively).

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Hmmm... was the same in NYC during the 70's (or so the big boys and gals told me) and the Big Apple was poor back then too. Ergo, having no dosh seems to boost your hormones :)

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Last weekend we went to a "naked sex party."...

 

You went to a sex... party. So what you're saying is, they weren't actually just naked and doing it in, oh, say, McDonald's, or on a train platform, or other places where normal people are usually found. Specifically, they were in a specific place where people with extra-normal preferences hang around having sex. mmkay

 

 

In the US, they would be seedy.

In the US they would be seedy. In Germany, they would be seedy, but have better drugs.

 

 

In Berlin it is just normal (relatively).

I don't know how long you've lived in Berlin (I guess not long if you still consider yourself a prudish American) but the sort of work you do, coupled with your likely limited experience here, makes me question how qualified you are to speak on behalf of what is "normal" in Berlin.

 

Unlike a lot of expats in Berlin and most people on this board, I am well-acquainted with the young/alternative native Berliner scene and my relatively well-informed opinion is that it is not at all "normal" to go to sex parties. For that matter it is not even "normal" to lay around naked in parks in the summertime, merely not punishable by law. I think where you're getting mixed up is, mistaking "not something that will get you ostracized from society forever" for "normal".

 

Germans in general and Berliners in particular do not have the same hangups we do about nudity and to a degree, other people's personal choices, but it doesn't mean they're all super horny sex freaks because they're a bit more tolerant (read: more capable of minding their own business--sometimes). People might work a little less hard here to pretend they are asexual beings, but I'm almost certain that my hometown has waaaay more swingers and fetish clubs than Berlin and it is like 1/4 the size.

 

The point is, if you go up to a random Berliner and ask them if they would like to accompany you to a sex party the answer is likely to be "uhhhh... no thanks" rather than an American-style response of "Disgusting!! What do you take me for? Vile creature, begone! I will pray for you" or, as you perhaps imagine, the loose and easy ;) Berliner, "well I'm busy that night but a friend of mine was going anyway". There is probably a much larger degree of separation than you have been led to believe, maybe because of the kind of work you do.

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right, I agree with you there. They are just not (as) freaked out about it.

 

Germans also don't make (or, evtl., enforce) illogical laws concerning what consenting adults can do with their bodies and spare time.

 

"Normal" was maybe a hastily picked word on your part.

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Rah :D A greenie for Keefy comin' up.

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For that matter it is not even "normal" to lay around naked in parks in the summertime, merely not punishable by law.

 

I know that this was not what you meant to do, but I resent the association of FKK with sex. The whole idea of nudism is that being naked has nothing to do with sex. And that the body is a natural thing (no matter how we look like). In FKK resorts (which, as you say yourself, are also the exception in Europe) people come with their kids, and are not paedophiles, and obviously think that their friendly naked neighbour isn't one, either (I must admit that I am/was a proponent of FKK and did it myself in the Mueggelsee, but since I have kids I find it freaky to expose them to naked strangers etc., not to mention the fact that above a certain age they have their own - horribly conformist - ideas of how to dress, what to eat, that Disney princesses are good role models etc., but I am digressing).

 

 

Well let me qualify what I said - the HIV outreach I have been doing is centered mostly in the gay community.

 

I would imagine that actually it is made to seem "normal" in the gay community. Straights also have (less) of other such phenomena, e.g. dark rooms, cruising in parks (to have sex with strangers), etc. But the fact that some elements in the gay community make it seem "normal" might in fact further exclude people (e.g. gay teens) who are gay, but not into that, to think that even as gay people, they are "not normal".

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