"SlutWalk" Coming to Australia

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Wait for me, I'll be there next month..

Like this? Not nearly provocative enough. ;)

 

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So a 12-year-old boy in Cambridgeshire, England , has worn a skirt to school to protest about not being allowed to wear shorts in warm weather. Quo vadis the discussion?

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To quote her, I'm also sexual, I have sex, enjoy sex, and am not ashamed, but the only person who really needs to know anything about it is my sexual partner. Why would I advertise my love of sex to every Tom, Dick and Harry on the street?

 

That's nice for you but where's the issue if I do want to advertise my love of sex to every Tom, Dick and Harry on the street?

 

No question, if you wear something that attracts attention you will get attention but nothing anyone can do should ever attract rape or even the desire to rape.

 

Rape is not about arousal, it's about anger and power. IS there actually any evidence that wearing slutty clothing makes you more susceptible to rape? (Not including the high prevalence of rape of prostitutes as there are several other factors involved there).

 

 

Robinson's view at the top of this thread is very naive. It completely overlooks the fact that men get sexually aroused when they see female flesh (and their brains stop working). Fact.

That is extremely insulting and patronising to men in general.

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@ dessa, the weird rhetoric was just my point.

 

In amongst some strange fantasy of walking naked or whatever down the street that noone should look or pay attention was the other view that seeing a naked piano leg would turn us all into slavering dogs.

 

If I see a pretty lady wearing a low cut dirndl or a mini skirt above long shapely legs then hell yes i'm going to look, so shoot me.

 

I am not, however, immediately going to start planning abduction and rape of the pretty lady.

 

C'mon guys, just be realistic eh?

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"I want you to clearly see how hot I am but you have to pretend not to. Because."

How about: men who stalk, attack and rape women are not just scum but are also spoiling it for everybody. In an attack-free Utopia, women could go out dressed in sexy clothing to show off a bit, get looks of interest or positive feedback from men, and everyone's happy.

 

One example- women seldom cycle in the UK in skirts or low tops because they get a barrage of abuse from British White Van Man who appears to be angry about something. And so many nice British guys I know have commented on how wonderful Berlin is because of all the babes cycling about with flashes of thigh and cleavage. Now the babes know they are getting looked at, and it gives guys pleasure, and nobody spoils it here.

 

So my point is, if dressing in a revealing or sexy manner could be somehow rebooted as "a fun flirty thing to look at on the street" instead of something that's potentially dangerous that could be seen as a failure of personal responsibility, then that would be nicer for all- we get to show off our assets, you get to look.

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If I see a pretty lady wearing a low cut dirndl or a mini skirt above long shapely legs then hell yes i'm going to look, so shoot me.

 

I am not, however, immediately going to start planning abduction and rape of the pretty lady.

 

Exactly Dave!

Women don´t mind being looked at - we even look at men if there is something "nice" to look at!

The problems start when the men view a woman as anything but a nice-looking lady, and start harrassing her for her looks, or even attack her.

If Featherlight wants to use the excuse that a man's brain short-circuits when he sees a nice bit of skirt, then I can recommend a good counsellor.

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Aren´t we all visual? I mean, don´t women also say to each other in a disco " wow, like that guy´s hair, arse, eyes , biceps ( not in my case...hasten to add..), legs "...whatever. When I was a young guy, I´d put on stuff like an orange watch with a purple ribbon around my neck to attract girls!! ( Didn´t help but anyway..). It´s all about being cool, hip and fashionable. Doesn´t mean anybody wants to be attacked.

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Honestly, if I were a woman I'd probably walk around wearing a freaking parka and ill-fitting sweatpants all day. The way some guys stare at, make comments about, and drool over girls is really pretty creepy. It's like they've never seen an ass and tits before.

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You know who I feel kind of sorry for? Chicks with really big breasts, who have to either wear tents or clothes that fit. Tents make them look fat and sloppy, and clothes that fit make people stare. And whereas a couple simple inches of cleavage are usually regarded as perfectly acceptable among more averagely-boobed ladies, any cleavage shown by a lady with large knockers starts to look like porn. Besides the fact that everyone--men, women, the young, the old, the gay, the straight--consider your chest something worth staring at. Most of the women in my family--excluding myself--have really big breasts and it is incredible the things people think they can say to you just because you dared to walk out of the house wearing anything other than a burka.

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So come on then chaps, what does happen in your brains when you see bare female flesh?

 

I've been professionally rubbing on women for many years and have seen my fair share of flesh during that time. Even before I did that as a career, my previous career allowed me to enjoy my single life to the fullest so the total amount of female flesh I've seen is up there. Is there a physical response in my brain? No denying it. We're sensory and chemical creatures built to respond to beauty and good smells. But I'm an adult and learned to compartmentalize stuff like that in my brain a long time ago despite my love of sex in my private life.

 

See, that's where other parts of my brain come in to keep me from letting attraction stir for my clients; hell rubbing a clients ass is akin to tenderizing a rump roast in work-mode. It also kept me from cheating on my ex-GF's and my wife. I acknowledge the agreement with what I'm seeing/smelling and move on. That's what rational people do to handle their instinctive responses. My brain doesn't stop working; it actually works a little harder.

 

Then there's the problem of what people actually find attractive. I, for instance, find female feet attractive if they are shapely, clean and taken care of. Does that mean that this cute blonde below had it coming to her for leaving her feet bare if I tried to do something crazy like this to her (sorry for the Spanish. Was hilarious in English)?

 

 

 

Does that mean that women should shoulder the responsible burden of wearing wool socks & Birkenstocks all year 'round or should we expect a little restraint and personal responsibility from both sexes in a modern society and allow people to show a little (or even a lot) of skin in some settings without resorting to demeaning each others supposed moral integrity based on how much of their leg you see? Because women even showing their ankles were considered a little slutty at one point in our history. And of course, by both sexes, I also mean that equality doesn't translate to wearing only a thong and boobie-tassles to church...although that might motivate me to actually go.

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Honestly, if I were a woman I'd probably walk around wearing a freaking parka and ill-fitting sweatpants all day. The way some guys stare at, make comments about, and drool over girls is really pretty creepy. It's like they've never seen an ass and tits before.

 

You´re right. But women do, too. Also, try being a foreigner in parts of Asia, Africa and Latin America. That´s some serious staring and commenting! Sometimes it was fun..sometimes creepy.

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John, to be honest, I've rarely seen women do it to the same extent that some men do.

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sorry Eleanor, I wasn't aware that I sleptwrote that I thought advertising your love of sex to Tom Dick and Harry meant you ought to be raped.

 

No, of course not I'm just having a hard time understanding why how the woman shows herself in public makes her message any less valid or agreeable to you? Or perhaps I misunderstood you?

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John, to be honest, I've rarely seen women do it to the same extent that some men do.

 

Paraguay: 5 women to every man! A couple of major wars mixed with poverty...

 

Indonesia: sit on a beach outside the major tourist areas..enjoy being surrounded by men and women staring at you ( I mean, surrounded and staring at you )

 

I don´t mind or didn´t mind being stared at...quite enjoyed it as I was ignored in my puberty!!! It´s when it turns to violence and hatred and senseless aggression because of being " different "...yuk...human condition...

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I find the whole thing a bit odd. On the outset I would just like to say I fully support the fact that anybody should be able to wear whatever without fear of violence, sexual harassment or rape. I also have no problem with a bunch of people running around reclaiming the word slut as a positive word to describe someone with a healthy sexual attitude. As well I think the only person who is in any way responsible for rape, is the person who committed the rape.

 

This all being said I kinda feel bad for the police officer who triggered the whole thing. I kinda think the whole thing is being blown a bit out of proportion, and that somebody who was trying to convey some street smarts, albeit with poor/insensitive word choice is being hung out to dry. I feel a bit bad for the guy to be honest.

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Iain, the particular policeman quoted said that "women should avoid dressing like sluts in order not to be victimised", and that might well have been meant as a good piece of advice.

 

However, this is not only the opinion of one policeman!

For decades there has been an underlying current of "well, you look what you are wearing - you were simply asking for it" from police and other authorities when a girl gets attacked, and this is simply not tolerable in this day and age!

 

It surely cannot be the case that a man can wear whatever he likes, whilst a woman has to dres "a certain way" to avoid being accused of inviting an attack, whether verbal or physical!

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Just waiting for that "Slut Walk" through the Muslim arrondissements of Marseille, Lyon, and Paris. When that happens, I will tip my hat.

 

Btw, I saw a woman accosted at 11:30 p.m. in the Lyon subway tunnel by two young French/African teenagers. They had her pushed up against a wall. The only reason they let her go was, I approached them. To be honest, my plan was to just walk by and then punch the first one I saw as hard as I could, without any warning. But maybe they felt my "vibe" and backed off.

 

anyway, years later, a friend told me that I had "prevented a rape". And this woman was dressed very conventionally. not "slutty" at all.

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John, whilst I do not condone violence, sometimes the right vibes can go a long way!

You are a hero for preventing worse happening to this woman, and should be proud of yourself!

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