Cell-phone contract problems

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Sandyks,

 

She's not quibbling about the 400 euro bill.. it's just that she has changed her mind about having the phone for two years. I understand that it's frustrating that you cannot pay a penalty to get out of the contract early.

 

The only thing that can be said and which has been said is that unfortunately, the law in this case in this country does not allow for this to happen.

 

End of story.

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but don't want to reconsider cutting a contract short for a White American Christian family.

from Bosnia

 

 

My life is a little complicated, mostly because I used to live in Germany 10 years ago as a Fluechtling from war-torn Bosnia. My family and I had the Aufenthaltsgenaehmigung, but after the war ended, Germany sent us home, so we decided to go to the US as our third country.

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As an American I must say that it’s almost impossible to find an apartment here in Germany. First and foremost, I’m self employed (web writer, publisher). I have enough money to rent the place, no criminal record, speak German… yet the Germans seem like the coldest people when it comes to picking a foreigner to rent an apartment. I cant call it racism because I suppose as a White American it’s useless to call it that, but it seems more of a cultural pick. My personal impression and I hope no one misunderstands me, is that they prefer Germans over any foreigner, color plays no role. That is my wholehearted experience. So, while I’m ranting I am also trying to find an apartment to look for at the same time. I wont give up, but it’s a real damn hard mission. Mission le impossible.

 

 

hmmm...

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from Bosnia

 

As far as I can tell from her profile and posts, she's a Bosnian Croat (= most likely Catholic, ergo Christian) who recently obtained US citizenship.

So, at least on the face of it, it does seem to be a case of white + Christian + American.

 

 

What about the fact that I'm a US citizen wishing to relocate to Munich
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I wonder if I, as a European, would find it 'easy' to find a flat in Alabama...

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This is my favourite TT thread ever.

 

You've only been a member 3 months. "ever" is a very short time in your case.

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I want to stress that I am stationed here to spread freedom, like the rest of my unit, and any time I see that a customer (whether domestic or international) is not given options to keep customer satisfaction, I feel that freedom is being overrun.

 

Ah yes, the brave lads of the 201st Consumer Protection Division.

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I can't believe it is real.

 

 

 

Either it's Friday wind-up or they were both dropped on the head as babies :)

 

 

Very good professional trolling, I'd say. If they were for real, I doubt if they'd have had sufficient active brain-cells to stray beyond Spunk Creek, Tennessee.

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I feel like instead of giving them knowledge, they're destroying my brain cells.

 

If you have a computer, why wouldn't you just use skype to call??? Why am I even trying to ask a logical question at this point?

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You've only been a member 3 months. "ever" is a very short time in your case.

 

 

True, if I were talking about threads I've participated in. But I meant one of the best threads I've read, including those that were retrospectively.

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As a soldier I will write to my governor who happens to be Austrian by ethnicity, and maybe he will look into Germany's socialist (quasi-democratic) dictatorship. They allow Turks to suck off on the welfare system and tons of punjabis, blacks, and asians (aka schlitzaugen), but don't want to reconsider cutting a contract short for a White American Christian family. This is why Germany is going down hill. They are nesting the 3rd world immigrants and making taxes unbearable for working class (at almost 20% tax rate), while they can't offer a termination option with a penalty cost for White Americans. I say to Germany; fine, let the Indians and the rest of the jungle bunnies eat your country from the inside out.

 

Are you for real? Why the hell should your governor look into Germany´s " socialist etc " dictatorship? You are really deranged.

Funnily enough, on the German Phoenix TV channel this morning, there was an interesting documentary about Harlem in the 1930s/1940s and the rise of "black" jazz music. I learned that calling someone " man " ( as I did/do from hippy days onwards ) came from a protest(reaction at being called " boy " by white supremacists. Didn´t realise the connection before. I do, however, realise that people like you are an embarrassment to liberal America/USA - in fact, an embarrassment to anywhere.

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As for all of you who are judging Lidi, I say to you that you should not say anything if you don't have positive feedback to leave.

 

Yeah, if you can't say anything nice that conforms with Miss Lidi's reality don't say anything at all. After all, she's American and doesn't have to deal with any negative input!

 

 

I am now in Munich, serving in the U.S. military and have my cousin who is visiting. I want to stress that I am stationed here to spread freedom, like the rest of my unit, and any time I see that a customer (whether domestic or international) is not given options to keep customer satisfaction, I feel that freedom is being overrun. I understand that Lidi signed the contract, and I understand that she is willing to pay the bill. However, she is not willing to continue being on their contract and is offering to pay a cancellation fee. This is where the dilemma starts. The fact that she is WILLING to pay a penalty speaks volumes of her character. The fact that they are rejecting this, speaks volumes of German business relations. This is socialism, and our unit is here to fight this system and to teach Germans the values of liberty and freedom.

 

 

I agree with Darkknight's view of the situation.

 

 

Some thick skulls do not comprehend the difference between paying a bill and terminating a contract.

 

 

Some thick skulls do not comprehend the difference between honoring a contract and denying all responsibility for their own actions.

 

 

Unfortunately, Germans still live under the strong hand of socialism and it is in my interest to destroy this with the injection of a purely free society, like LA.

 

 

Oh lord! LA! What a role model for Germany to follow.

 

 

I own ATT international, iphone 4 32GB, white color

 

 

You know, that sounds kinda ...

 

 

As a soldier I will write to my governor who happens to be Austrian by ethnicity, and maybe he will look into Germany's socialist (quasi-democratic) dictatorship. They allow Turks to suck off on the welfare system and tons of punjabis, blacks, and asians (aka schlitzaugen), but don't want to reconsider cutting a contract short for a White American Christian family. This is why Germany is going down hill. They are nesting the 3rd world immigrants and making taxes unbearable for working class (at almost 20% tax rate), while they can't offer a termination option with a penalty cost for White Americans. I say to Germany; fine, let the Indians and the rest of the jungle bunnies eat your country from the inside out.

 

 

... racist.

 

P.S. Hitler was Austrian by ethnicity. Gratuitous trivia.

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I'm actually quite surprised that the selfproclaimed USA, who is plainly an otherwise uncivilised time-warped troll, can for the most part, construct orthographically and grammatically correct sentences.

 

Compared to the usual dirtbags that spout such moronic drivel anywhere on the net that has me a bit confused. Even the ones who apparantly have bluffed their way through to obtaining some academic degree or other can rarely master their own mother tongue above the grade school level.

 

It also confuses me that anyone can actually reach the age of majority, travel to a foreign country, and still remain so ignorant of the fact that certain basic principles like personal responsibility and basic good manners are universally expected of them, no matter from whence they came.

 

AI is usually the acronym for Artificial Intelligence although after this thread AI may aquire a new definition in TT.

 

Personally I always find it better not to advertise ones total and Absolute Ignorance, where it applies, of any aspects of world affairs, military or business practice or international politics, but in the case of Miss L idi & USA it seems they are proud to demonstrate precisely that.

 

Thankfully I do know from decades of working with US service men and women and civillians that neither these two, nor a handful of the other less salubrious TT members, are typical representatives of the USA. Sadly, for people reading their garbage without such personal experience, they certainly cast a dark shadow on their country's reputation.

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A very wise post, 2B, very wise. Well said. It SHOULDN´T be the case that an individual´s behaviour from country X should determine what citizens from country Y should think of you but that´s not the way the world works. Whether you like it or not, you represent where you come from. Shouldn´t be ( because collective guilt is a stupid concept ) but it is.

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Yawn... before signing a contract in Germany... read the AGB (Algemeine Geschäfts Bedingungen)

 

Wish you well !

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Yawn... before signing a contract in Germany... read the AGB (Algemeine Geschäfts Bedingungen)

 

Bedtime already? AGB Allgemeine Geschäftsbedingungen translates as General terms and conditions.

 

I’m not aiming this at adutchy in particular, but I see far too often posters quoting German without any English translation. I’m sure adutchy’s German is as good as mine, but newcomers (or those who struggle with German) might welcome the odd explanation. There are some forum guidelines somewhere.

 

http://www.toytowngermany.com/wiki/Forum_usage_guidelines

 

Forum usage guidelines

English language only

Only write in English.

 

So, it would be nice to spend a few seconds to translate any German phrases, abbreviations, etc.

 

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To try and get this now humorous thread back on topic….

 

The Opening Poster has not covered herself in glory here. However, ten years ago, I lost DM1800 Kaution (deposit) on a German apartment, as I didn’t know three months notice before moving out was required. I didn’t write to my MP, join the Air Force or brand Germany as a socialist state. Instead, I acknowledged I was naïve and learned from my mistake.

 

Miss Lidi will learn from her mistake. Her anti-Germany pro-American rant is bizarre/inexcusable and hopefully, when she calms down, she will realise things could have been handled better.

 

But what about the few veteran TT members here who’ve piled on the criticism? Look again in a fortnight at your contributions. You’ve ganged up on her from the safety of your keyboards. There was some good advice at the start, but sorry some of the comments made later on make you no better than Miss Lidi. Let’s be a bit nicer and understanding.

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It's a fact of expatriate life - you will mostly lose money, but often quite simply face when dealing with the local population, business, life in general or culture. It's not just being in Germany but the same to some extent wherever one re-locates to. I reckon that every individual (including me) will have wasted thousands of Euros from ignorance, naivety, misunderstanding or lack of language. It's annoying, frustrating and wasteful, but it's a fact of expatriate life, and a fact that should be taken into account when moving to a foreign land.

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That's more like it. We've all fallen foul of some law we didn't know about.

 

I hope that in time Miss Lidi will put this behind her.

 

Pay the 400 Euros, keep the Vodafone phone and most importantly cancel that contract in good time (minimum three months before the end) in writing with recorded delivery. It might seem painful now, but it's not a big problem to get stressed over.

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