Violent crime in Germany

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Well done Marc!

All too often it is the case that people turn the other way, rather than confronting the aggressorsfor fear of becoming a target themselves - which, of course, can happen!

 

Personally, I feel safer in Germany than in the UK, although I am aware that not everything is reported in the press here, whereas in the UK it is.

As John mentioned, in post 32, a victim NEVER forgets, so yes, I spend time looking over my shoulder when out and about, but so far have been lucky here!

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While I feel safer here than in the UK and definitely than when I lived in France where I was harrassed and followed home or groped on a daily basis, to be honest as a woman I don't really feel safe anywhere at night. I always carry a rape alarm and if I'm walking home at night I never take short cuts or wear a walkman, but I think that's just common sense. It might sound a bit paranoid but I'd rather take a few precautions than put myself at risk. I think a major problem in Germany is the street lighting, it's just not bright enough. I know it's probably to stop wasting energy or lower light pollution but it certainly makes me feel a bit vulnerable - I did actually get followed in Germany this year for the first time, I had met a friend for a drink and decided to walk home cos it was only about 9pm. Some guy started following me and unfortunately all pathways home were next to parks with lots of bushes and the street lighting is so terrible, I just legged it and luckily my boyfriend was able to come and pick me up. That's the only time I have actually been in such a situation though in 3 years of living here. But I definitely won't risk walking home from there again when it's getting dark!

 

Within the past 2 or 3 weeks, my flatmate has had a guy follow her home twice. (Both times were about 2am) The most recent time, the guy actually tried to get in the door with her. She has been completely freaked out about it since then, which I think is understandable.

 

It's just strange because I would never expect such things to happen here, not in this town and especially not in this neighbourhood. But hey, never say never right? Since that happened to her, I feel only slightly less safe, but really because I would never consider it especially safe to walk home in the dark at 2am anyway. What can I say? I'm just a well-lit nightbus kind of person.

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From the sounds of it, Germany is certainly better than many places I know, and sounds like it's better than California in general. I live in a decent neighborhood, but I can walk down the street and be in a city we like to joke about for its crime. You can practically smell the gangs there, and no one takes any chances with regards to any of their belongings because theft runs high there. Of course, I'm a guy, I can't account for that much of the story (just about every girl I know has dealt with stalking, some have dealt with molesters and would-be molesters, and a couple have been assaulted), but I can see quite a bit of the ugliness. Hey, at least in the richer cities, crime went down. Of course, that was probably in conjunction with the increase in police activity: they're facing layoffs too, and they choose who stays and who goes based on who gives the most tickets, makes the most arrests, etc. I was once walking the dog and a police car parked right in the middle of my culdesack and the cop just stared at me, watching me go up as I signaled "Hey, just walking the dog, I've just got out of the shower." Not to mention they're now placing cops on the driveways on the main road occasionally during rush-hour.

 

How does that description measure up with your areas, residents of Germany?

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Most developed countries, inluding Germany, have experienced rapid declines in violent crime, particularly sexual crimes, in the last few decades. The USA has seen something like a 70% drop in violent crime since the 1970s, when violent crime hit its peak.

 

I live in Indiana, a state in the midwest of the United States. I think its important to be very specific when speaking of crime in the United States, because of its size and diversity. I grew up in relatively rough poverty, and lived in "trouble areas", but there were never any serious crimes. I've never even witnessed a theft, let alone an assault, and I've certainly never been followed home. I'm a person of considerable pigmentation as well, and Indiana is something like 90% white, but with a noticeable community of Hispanic immigrants. Never experienced even the threat of violence. Its rare to even see someone being rude. I don't have any problems walking around late at night, alone.

 

Most of Indiana is rural though. I don't know if rural areas in Germany are generally considered safer than the cities?

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Most of Indiana is rural though. I don't know if rural areas in Germany are generally considered safer than the cities?

 

I think that he is asking a question to people here, bluedave.

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Honestly, I've been out at any hour of the day and night here in Dresden, even in quite isolated areas, and I feel perfectly safe... Also, I haven't heard (yet) of any unpleasant episode from anyone I know.

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LOL you guys are funny try Mexico City where all the members of my family have been robbed or LA I lived there many many years including Hollywood and never had an incident, here is like super safe to me,I don't feel I have to watch my car, my house,or my back at all times.

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What is creepier to me is seeing native thugs strutting around and singing, "Shah-la-lah" to sike themselves up like I saw on New Years.

 

It was like West Side Story in a different language and I couldn't help but remember this:

 

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How safe do women here feel driving alone at night? It is so dark and there are no phones on the highways. I know everyone has cell phones now, but I think of how it was a decade back. What did people do when they had a flat tire? Just walk to get help in the snow, I guess. But do women drive here alone at night, on highways? I wonder.

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There are and were lots of emergency phones along the highways. And yes, women dare to drive alone at night. And they are safe.Just avoid lone parking areas, while "Raststätten" are safe.

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Just avoid lone parking areas

those are great for the extra garbage after Christmas. ;)

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LOL you guys are funny try Mexico City where all the members of my family have been robbed or LA I lived there many many years including Hollywood and never had an incident, here is like super safe to me,I don't feel I have to watch my car, my house,or my back at all times.

 

I know a guy in L.A. that carries five knives on various parts of his body for protection and as a deterrent. He's found himself in plenty of situations where he's glad for that.

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How safe do women here feel driving alone at night? It is so dark and there are no phones on the highways. I know everyone has cell phones now, but I think of how it was a decade back. What did people do when they had a flat tire? Just walk to get help in the snow, I guess. But do women drive here alone at night, on highways? I wonder.

 

Is that a serious question? I've never thought twice about driving at night, why would I? I make sure that I have warm clothes and something to eat and drink in the car and I keep a working torch with me. If I broke down on the Autobahn I'd call for help and wait away from my vehicle and the traffic. When I had a problem once driving on a main road and stopped to check something 2 other people stopped within the space of 10 minutes to see if I was ok or if they could help.

 

I find this whole *potential victim* attitude hugely depressing. Whilst women are more likely to be victims of sexual crime we're also more likely to know the perpetrator. Using common sense when out and about will do us far more good than fretting about an unlikely opportunistic attempt of being attacked if we have car troubles on a dark road.

 

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Do women drive alone here at night? Sheeesh, what a question. Of course they do. What century do you live in MiNi?

 

As to those flat tires, no one should be allowed to get a drivers license unless they know how to change a tire. If you don't know how to change a tire MiNi, then it is time you learned.

 

There are phones all over the autobahn, if you don't have a handy with you.

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As to those flat tires, no one should be allowed to get a drivers license unless they know how to change a tire. If you don't know how to do change a tire MiNi, then it is time you learned.

 

I learnt to change a tyre when I learnt to drive - 30 years ago. Nowadays, courtesy of the tools they use to tighten the nuts, I find it nigh on impossible to get the wheel off. I actually don't think I'd even try - off the Autobahn I'd put the hazards on and pootle along till I got to a garage, on the Autobahn I'd call ADAC.

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ADAC is a driver's best friend! I have driven at night and feel perfectly fine...I always check to make sure that my cell is fully charged before heading out though.

 

And last night I walked home from the bar at 4AM all by myself and felt perfectly safe...granted I live in a small town (Pop: ~25K) but I've never felt threatened or scared at any time here.

 

Would I do that in the US? HELL F**KING NO! :blink:

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As many have said"commensense "is the key.Dont take un-necessary risks in any country.After living in many countries and visiting various others I have had no trouble to date (touch wood),but have come to the conclusion that no matter how safe an area might seem dont assume it is.Again as many have said ,keep to lighted zones where possible,there is always safety in numbers,carry a mobile and know the emergency numbers,any item such as keys,pen,bags,umbrella's,walking sticks etc make formidable weapons at any time and for the girls(and maybe some men)High Heels are a killer tool so never believe yourself to be unarmed or an easy target. Again every country has certain areas it is just not wise to visit at any time so avoid and if you dont know where they are "ASK" a local who will be well in the know.Probably saying the basics again for those who already know but maybe it will ensure that in a tight spot you will remember and be able to get out without injury

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I live in a rural area outside Hassfurt. No serious crime here, but houses have been broken into in the area, always by Romainians, Bulgarians or Russians. Twice I had a suspicious old begger at the door with a note. I threw him off the property quite unpolitely. The same old man wrote in chalk on the fencepost of my 83 yr. old neighbor, who has a noisy, agressive German Shepard behind a fence, some cryptic symbol. I figured he was casing the neighborhood for house robberies. Unlike the U.S. where your home is your castle, you are not allowed to touch anyone who illegially breaks into your home. You will be arrested & charged for assult. Welcome to socialism!

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