Medical misbehaviour - who can we report it to?

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Hi,

My friend experienced a personal examination technique 'too far' from a medical doctor. She was on her own with the physician and he made an entirely inappropriate fondle, three passes in quick succession. He is a locum and not her regular doctor who she has seen maybe three times. She would not have attended had she known it was not her regular doctor. Is there a reporting procedure, a General Medical Council equivalent as in the UK here, and might anyone be able to help with where to seek advice?

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Sorry she had to deal with that. Her first stop would be the Ärztekammer Berlin. The next stop would be her local police station. In fact, go to the police first and then the Ärztekammer.

 

She should take someone who speaks German and her language fluently, to make sure there are no communication breakdowns.

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Depending on when it happened/what the "fondle" was, she should go to the police as soon as possible. I work in a Control Room back in the UK (currently doing a year's study here) and the standard advice is not to wash and preserve any clothing she was wearing at the time.

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Too little (second hand) information for me to jump on the hang'em high bandwagon.

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I really appreciate the quick replies and they are spot-on. I have passed all suggestions on - heartfelt thanks.

The police are such an obvious place for officialdom and I am so cross for my friend, I hadn't thought of it. Another friend suggested a larger police station / 'Scotland Yard' version where there might be more specialised staff, particularly with the medical slant.

Describing an incident as anything more than common assault (by a medical professional) on this forum is just a bit odd in this case, eurovol.

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I have just found this. There is a telephone number at the side. I would suggest you find someone who speaks German and get in contact with that office.

 

It must be a horrible feeling to be treated like that.

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uefacup81

 

Considering you were the one who started the ciggy smuggling thread http://www.toytowngermany.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=157346&st=0 , perhaps promoting yourself on matters legal is rather out of your jurisdiction. And nobody mentioned bodily fluids either.

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This was the reason for the thread:

 

 

Is there a reporting procedure, a General Medical Council equivalent as in the UK here, and might anyone be able to help with where to seek advice?

Oh Mister Male, maybe let her report the situation to the relevant authorities and let THEM decide, instead of you conjuring titillating (no pun intended) graphic what ifs ... here.

 

Her friend seems to be taking what she has said seriously, that is enough for me.

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However, remarkably you are using third hand information in order for there to be 'enough' evidence to satisfy your armchair vigilantism.

Thank you for the armchair perspective from the other side.

 

Police first, if there is anything behind the allegations they will inform the DA who de jure has to inform the Ärztekammer. Even if the DA doesn't prosecute you can contact the Ärztekammer yourself to lodge a complaint.

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Is she overly coy/ prudish? Has she accused innocent people before? Is she the sort of woman that would 'cry rape'? Is she misandric?

Ok, seriously?

 

 

Frankly, your comments smack of sexism from the Marilyn French school of believing that 'all men are rapists'.

Well, Mister Male, your comment smacks of a man who dismisses all women who cry foul as "coy". As in the people who say, "Oh, she deserved it, she was asking for it."

 

As the OP said, she has a regular doctor that she goes to. She is probably used to the "intimate examinations" that go along with visiting an OBGYN. So, she'd know if something was a little more intimate than usual. How about you give this woman a little credit and don't slag her off as a stupid "coy" girl who just wants to fuck up someone's life cause she can?

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You should always report it to the authorities. If they investigate and you overreacted then lesson learned. However, if the individual in question has several complaints then it's a different story. You'll never know if you don't report. The fear of speaking up is what people in authority who are prone to misbehavior bank on.

 

How would you feel if at some future date you read in the news about this individual and how his/her behavior has been going on for years after your encounter?

 

Besides, any male doctor who performs examinations on females without someone present in the room is just asking for potential problems. Wether this is required legally or not. In some professions sometimes CYA is better than doing the minimum legal requirement.

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Mister Male-

 

considering how uncomfortable it can be to have to recount an incident to total strangers at a police station or otherwise I would think most coy/prudish (really?really?) girls would think twice about doing so. therefore your argument falls apart. only if something quite severe happened I would expect the kind of girl you describe to go through with filing a complaint.

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Does anyone know if German regulations require a third party be present for exams? This seems to me the natural first point of inquiry. If this physician broke a regulation by going it alone...

My hope is that anyone reading this thread will learn a valuable lesson. NEVER allow yourself to be examined without a same sex third party present.

...and NO, I am not saying that the original post's friend was "asking" for it or is in way to blame for what happened. I'm only talking about how to prevent this moving forward.

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that is enough for me.

 

Well, it isn't for me. Sorry, but I seem to remember you jumping to conclusions and insinuating perversions onto others not too long ago. :angry:

 

Just look at this thread. There is a second hand claim of "alleged inappropriate behavior" and several of you have already convicted and are forming a lynch mob.

 

If this turns out to be a false claim, how many of you mobbers would accept that and go to him for medical care? And how many would assume he just got off on a technicality?

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That depends on your relationship with the doctor. My GYN and I would laugh outloud at the proposal, but we've known each other for almost 30 years and hug each other good-bye.

 

When you call to make an appointment you will want to inform the doctor's assistant that you will be bringing a friend who will be present during the exam, it is not customary in Germany to do so. It might even be seen as a breach of doctor/patient confidentiality.

 

eurovol, show me the lynch mob. Except for one call for castration this topic is full of advice on where to turn with any complaints.

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