Will you get immunized against the swine flu?

[cinzia 2,643]

Swine flu parties are generally frowned upon, since previously healthy kids have died from H1N1.

 

Anyone throwing a "swine flu party" is leaving themselves wide open for a lawsuit, so that idea seems extremely stupid to me. Good on you for politely declining the invitation!

 

 

Well, I think I have something right now. Whole body is soar (like being run over by a truck). upset stomach, headache, no appetite, and can't get comfortable. Still I won't be getting jabbed and I also don't medicate. Just going to let it run its course. So, if you don't hear from me or see me logged in....send a mobile refridgerator.

 

NBJ, you might have stomach flu, but you don't have H1N1, which is a primarily respiratory-based illness.

[marie-claire 2,091]

There is an interesting article in the New York Times: Many Swine Flu Cases Have No Fever

[cinzia 2,643]

I myself had hardly any fever. Around 99 degrees every afternoon for awhile, but never higher than 99.7.

[Mariposa 1,281]

 

There is an interesting article in the New York Times: Many Swine Flu Cases Have No Fever

 

Interesting indeed considering that fever is apparently considered a main factor in deciding whether a person may have swine flu or not. My best friend is sick at the moment and she was only let into the waiting area of the practice after making sure she had no fever. If people can have the swine flu but don't have a fever, that means it'll only spread that much faster.

[cinzia 2,643]

The other complication of people having H1N1 with no fever is that clinicians don't know what to tell these patients about when they can return to work or school. The guideline is that you are cleared after you've gone 24 hours with no fever (and no fever-reducing medications.)

 

If you had no fever to begin with, there's no guidance.

[Jimbo 1,269]

A law suit??? Christ, only in America can you catch a cold from someone and then sue them.

[cinzia 2,643]

I suppose that as the host of an H1N1 party, you could ask your guests to sign some sort of release that if your child has to be hospitalized or buried due to the virus you knowingly transmitted to the child, you won't hold the host legally responsible, but it probably wouldn't hold up in court.

 

I wouldn't be at all surprised if such a scenario develops.

[perdido 6,083]

Was in two doctor offices yesterday with the phone ringing off the hook concerning the swine flu. Since I was not there for swine flu when I left the receptionist gave me handi wipes to wash my hands since there had been people in the waiting room who suspected they had swine flu.

[7sins 51]

 

A friend suggested washing the mouth and nose with salt water twice a day to kill the bugs. Any ideas?

 

This a typical method used by people suffering from Sinusitis or other nose infections, it does relieve the symptoms, however this may help bacteria infections of the nose and mouth but definitely will not help with viruses. Flu is a virus, not a bacteria so I doubt that you may get any benefit except that by maybe having a clear nose for few hours and therefore feeling a bit better...

 

Also as Andy mentioned, it is possible if you use this procedure too frequently you may kill normal flora from nose and mouth hence allowing yourself to other opportunistic infections. So not a good idea.

 

If you go to the chemist they sell saline for this purpose, however it is only recommended to be used when sinusitis symptoms develop. I think you will waste your money if you buy it for the flu. purpose.

 

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[sparkling 132]

Thanks 7sins.

Btw, my doctor recommends the vaccine, I am still considering.

[Jimbo 1,269]

 

I suppose that as the host of an H1N1 party, you could ask your guests to sign some sort of release that if your child has to be hospitalized or buried due to the virus you knowingly transmitted to the child, you won't hold the host legally responsible, but it probably wouldn't hold up in court.I wouldn't be at all surprised if such a scenario develops.

 

I would because if you hold an H1N1 party, it's pretty much a given that your guests accept a degree of risk when they attend. There is very little case law anywhere in the world for maliciously infecting people with an illness, and I would have thought none at all where the 'victim' knew and accepted the risk.

[westvan 9,706]

 

This a typical method used by people suffering from Sinusitis or other nose infections, it does relieve the symptoms, however this may help bacteria infections of the nose and mouth but definitely will not help with viruses. Flu is a virus, not a bacteria

Nasal irrigation once or twice a day is fine if you suffer from sinus problems. My husband and I do it all the time. Although there's no direct evidence I've just been reading that the practice could possibly help in *preventing* H1N1 in the first place by improving the mobility of the mucus membranes and by (supposedly) washing out the airborne virus before it can take hold since it needs about 3 days to start its attack. I doubt it would do any good if you already have the virus other than relieving some symptoms.

 

I still haven't decided if I'm going to get the shot since I have a chronic autoimmune condition.

[andyandy 1,120]

 

Nonsense nonsense nonsense nonsense nonsense.

Nonsense nonsense nonsense nonsense nonsense.

Oh yea, and nonsense nonsense nonsense nonsense nonsense.

 

Where to start, where to start...firstly, how would you do this? Put your head in a bucket of brine and sniff? Salt water...

 

 

 

Nasal irrigation once or twice a day is fine if you suffer from sinus problems. My husband and I do it all the time...

 

I stand corrected - learn something new every day! Still doubt it would actually kill viruses, but dislodging them before they infect the cells sounds a bit more plausible. Still sounds icky though... :blink:

[westvan 9,706]

It is kind of icky at first but once you get used to it you never want to stop!

 

As I said, there's no concrete evidence that you can actually wash a virus away but it might be worth a try.

[sparkling 132]

How about the good bacteria in nose?

How often do you do nasal irrigation?

[westvan 9,706]

Usually once a day or a few times a week does it for us. The Wikipedia article is really informative if you want to know more. No serious side effects. You need to get the correct balance for the saline solution though.

[cinzia 2,643]

I use saline nasal spray once or twice a day all winter long, because the air is so cold and dry here.

 

Supposedly, keeping your nasal passages moist helps your mucous stay sticky, the way it's supposed to be to trap foreign substances from making it into your respiratory tract.

 

The MN state epidemiologist was asked about flu prevention via saline spray on a radio program I heard last week. She is of the opinion that nasal spray is helpful because of the above, but is not a guaranteed preventive technique against colds or flu.

[sarabyrd 18,767]

I just got flu-ge-jabbed (against the regular stuff) an hour ago and don't feel so good. Not nauseous but my throat keeps constricting.

Anyway, I spoke to the doc (of course) and she was skeptical, saying that she would wait two more weeks before offering the vaccination in her office. She does refer patients who want the jab to a colleague with a larger practice who has ordered the vaccine. We discussed the case of the 15-year-old who died of the New Flu within hours of contracting it, cause of death being acute myocarditis. That's what makes me so worried about Cat (she has a heart condition) and so determined to get both of us vaccinated.

[mlovett 8,681]

Vaccines are being hoarded here (Calif.). I am "high risk", so would definitely get one, but haven't yet. Jr is home sick today, and swine flu is going around his school. fingers crossed that it's just a cold...

[cinzia 2,643]

sarabyrd, you'll probably feel better tomorrow. I usually have throat issues the same day as I get the seasonal flu vaccine, too. Mostly, the back of my throat feels like it's made of straw.

 

Anyway, best wishes for the briefest period of discomfort possible!