Prague can still be dangerous

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That's horrible, hope you feel better soon. My fiance is going to Prague in the summer for his stag weekend, and now i'm worried. I might try to convince him to go somewhere else.

 

Wow, I was thinking of going to Prague for a weekend next time i'm in Dresden on business but I think I may give it a body swerve now.

You have to keep this incident in perspective. Millions of visitors go to Prague every year and never encounter any problems. Some people go to Munich and also run into trouble. However, the Czech Republic remains significantly poorer than Germany and the crime rate is undoubtedly higher, as the numerous warnings on Toytown about taking your car into the Czech Republic testify (most German car-rental companies do not allow it).

 

Prague is not inherently dangerous, but there are two things you should avoid in any major city: 1) stumbling around drunk in a city you don't know, and 2) doing this in the dodgiest part of town, which in the case of Prague is Wenceslas Square and the area around the main train station (Hlavní Nádraží). The prostitutes, drug dealers, thieves and muggers are all targeting the same people: drunks.

 

Every week someone gets stabbed in London, but no-one ever says don't go to London, it's too dangerous.

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absolutely STB. To put it all into perspective, here is a ranking based on the murder rate per 100,000 people in major cities in North America and in Europe calculated in the late 90's by the BBC

 

(1) Washington, D.C., USA 69.3

(2) Philadelphia, USA 27.4

(3) Dallas, USA 24.8

(4) Los Angeles, USA 22.8

(5) Chicago, USA 20.5

(6) Phoenix, USA 19.1

(7) Moscow, Russia 18.1

(8) Houston, USA 18.0

(9) New York City, USA 16.8

(10) Helsinki, Finland 12.5

(11) Lisbon, Portugal 9.7

(12) San Diego, USA 8.0

(13) Amsterdam, Netherlands 7.7

(14) Belfast, N.Ireland, UK 4.4

(15) Geneva, Switzerland 4.2

(16) Copenhagen, Denmark 4.0

(17) Berlin, Germany 3.8

(18) Paris, France 3.3

(19) Stockholm, Sweden 3.0

(20) Prague, Czechoslovakia 2.9

 

You will see that the top six are in the USA and the 9 largest connurbations in the USA all rank ahead of Prague, as do Helsinki, Moscow, Lisbon, Amsterdam, Belfast, Geneva, Copenhagen, Stockholm, Paris, Berlin and Dublin. Kind of surprised that London isn't in there tho.

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Absolutely, but you can get beat up so severely that you have a permanent disability.

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Well, I'm not staying out of Prague because of the incident that's related here. But I will stay off the south side of Chicago this summer. :lol:

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you can get beat up so severely that you have a permanent disability.

permanent disability, and dead are totally different...

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You have to keep this incident in perspective. Millions of visitors go to Prague every year and never encounter any problems. Some people go to Munich and also run into trouble. However, the Czech Republic remains significantly poorer than Germany and the crime rate is undoubtedly higher, as the numerous warnings on Toytown about taking your car into the Czech Republic testify (most German car-rental companies do not allow it).

 

Prague is not inherently dangerous, but there are two things you should avoid in any major city: 1) stumbling around drunk in a city you don't know, and 2) doing this in the dodgiest part of town, which in the case of Prague is Wenceslas Square and the area around the main train station (Hlavní Nádraží). The prostitutes, drug dealers, thieves and muggers are all targeting the same people: drunks.

 

Every week someone gets stabbed in London, but no-one ever says don't go to London, it's too dangerous.

When I was in the Czech republic, I definitely wasn't drunk and I definitely didn't do anything stupid. I took a train, that's it. The two American girls who were also in the same train did the same. That was our crime. We were from Western countries and we took a train through the Czech republic to Prague.

 

I think that the people in the Czech republic are no more criminal than anywhere else in the world, despite their poverty. The problem is their police. That makes it different to travelling through a Western European country. In my own case I was taken off the train in the middle of the night by a group of border police for no bloody reason. They took me off the train, onto the platform, into a small room, no windows, lightbulb dangling from the ceiling, no other furniture, no plaster on the walls, formed a circle around me (single young woman), tried to intimidate me and only let me back onto the waiting train after I gave them all the money in my wallet. I have travelled all continents (but for Australia/New Zealand) and this has never happened to me anywhere. I have visited Budapest and had no problems there either. My brother-in-law and his daughter (South African/British citizens) had bad experiences in the Czech Republic too, once again with the border police. I complained at their embassy in person, was shrugged off. I then wrote a letter to their embassy, never got an answer. There are other places you can visit.

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Well, I'm not staying out of Prague because of the incident that's related here.

Neither am I and I never said I was (not that you said that I said that I said I was - just wanted to clarify that).

 

Look, shit happens everywhere. I know this. I think most of us do. I put my story up just to relate a bad incident that happened to me and hopefully it will make people a little more aware of their surroundings and actions when they are traveling. My brother and I were not stumbling drunk as Small Town Asswipe insinuates - we were just randomly attacked for whatever reason. I think, as some have said, I probably was a little too comfortable with the city after having visited many times and let my guard down a bit. My bad. It won't happen again. I'm not going to let this incident ruin traveling for me in any way, shape or form. I've just now become a smarter traveler because of it.

 

All I want right now is a little love, peace and harmony - and a big f'ing slice of pizza! God I miss real food! Only 4-5 more weeks... :angry:

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God I miss real food!

hmm, so transport, healthcare and crime rates in Europe have all been rubbished by you in comparison with your delusional ideas of your home nation and now you seek to rubbish food here too and imply an Italian dish is actually better made by Americans. The USA is a fantastic country I love very much but I, and I presume quite a few other Europeans on this board, find this level of biggotry from a (very small) number of USAns very irritating indeed.

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The USA is a fantastic country I love very much but I, and I presume quite a few other Europeans on this board, find this level of biggotry from a (very small) number of USAns very irritating indeed.

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Erm, no, he's got a busted jaw, hence can't eat stuff like pizza.

 

 

My jaw is wired shut and will be for at least another 5 weeks. I have 9 screws and 5 plates in my face now.

You can't blame it all on Beaver...

 

(Did you see what I did there? Did you see?! A-ha!)

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BtC, PAY CLOSE ATTENTION: his jaw is wired shut.

 

He is on a liquid diet for MONTHS. He could care less where his pizza comes from, as long as it's not from a blender.

 

Jeezuz!! :lol:

 

 

All I want right now is a little love, peace and harmony

sending you a big smooch!

 

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BTC I think Beaver would LOVE ANY kind of food at the moment? Have you ever had a broken jaw? Mouth wired shut that you couldn't chew? Only drinking things thru a straw?

 

Beaver- really sorry this happened to you, hope you do heal well, and are still able to maintain a positive outlook. I was severly hurt last year in a rush crowd, and nobody helped me, it really tarnishes your outlook on humankind.

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And speaking of Beaver, he won't be able to do this for a while, either: :P

 

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hmm, so transport, healthcare and crime rates in Europe have all been rubbished by you in comparison with your delusional ideas of your home nation and now you seek to rubbish food here too and imply an Italian dish is actually better made by Americans. The USA is a fantastic country I love very much but I, and I presume quite a few other Europeans on this board, find this level of biggotry from a (very small) number of USAns very irritating indeed.

What? I'm actually smiling right now and that is tough for me to do. Where in the hell did you get any of the ideas that you just wrote???

 

I CAN'T EAT ANY FOOD RIGHT NOW. I would KILL for a slice of pie from the Italian joint down the street from my house right now. Or a big Schnitzel or some Spargel which has just come in to season.

 

What is wrong with some of you people? Jeezus...

 

I LOVE EUROPE AND CHOOSE TO BE HERE. Read some of the posts above before commenting in the future. Dang...

 

Did you have a rough night Cat? If so, I'll forgive you. Better yet, are you drinking a beer right now? If so, I'll join you. I need the levity and something to do. I'm bored.

 

Thanks everyone for posting before I could get back in here. I've been busy updating my blog that trashes Europe and the rest of the world and proclaims the dominance of America. USA! USA! USA! ;)

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Bohemka:

 

 

We do. This is true. My suburb (which was a suburb of a suburb's suburb) had two airports. Honestly though, theatregrouppretentiousasshole, if you had just simply visited the United States, just once, you wouldn't have had to ask such an incredibly stupid question, you inferiority-complex-afflicted muppet.

I was just incensed at another person who blames his exeperience in a particular hospital on "socialised medicine". Also the suggestion that the cops in CZ weren't helpful and that hospital care in Germany was substandard was particularly enraging. There is a constant stream of such comments from some Americans on this site criticising Europe for things which are just as prevelant, if not more, in the States. one gets the feeling that those who make these statements are people of privalege who have never experienced what many Americans have to deal with on a regular basis (shit healthcare, no welfare, unfriendly cops, sub standard education etc); hence the gated enclosure barb.

 

I truly feel sorry for Beaver, but his comments seem indicative of one of these Suburbion Seppos we all love to hate in Europe. I wouldn't be surprised if he was spouting some New World vitriol in the bar before his attackers pounced. "Dumplings, you call these dumplings? Back in Utah our dumplings have got gears on them" or "Wow, this beer taste like shit" or "I think soccer is for assholes" or "why do all the men have girls hair" etc etc

 

BTW Ireland has a higher wanker/rock ape density than most countries, i know this, that's why i dont live there. Dont change the subject...we are talking about Beaver (an American) describing Europe as Mordor and getting clocked by a pair of Orks in the process (allegedly).

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I thought the big tongue might perk you up a bit. [Laughter IS the best medicine, even if it hurts to smile! :D]

 

Something similar to your story happened to me years ago in San Francisco (in the rough part, but I did not know that at the time because I was a newbie in town), when I left a nightclub. Big gang emerged from the shadows and attacked my friends and I with bats. They were kind enough not to hit us in the face. We were bruised, cut, and my friend's car was totalled while we were trying to escape. Somehow, I managed to hold on to my purse... I should have just let him take it, and maybe the bats wouldn't have started swinging. sigh. I was a wreck for a while... convinced that humanity was truly evil. All the cops could say was: what the hell were you doing in this part of town?? :rolleyes:

 

Cars drove right on by while it was happening... no one stopped to help. :( At the least the locals helped you; keep that in mind.

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