Killing and rape of white girls in India

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@ Keydeck - you take the point shelly was making, but if it really has to be rephrased so that we all can understand what she means, then here ya go:

 

women - without male escorts - coming out of night clubs at large hotels or bars are getting attacked more often than would be expected in Western countries.

I'm not saying it is so, but c'mon - we all know what she means. Talk about straw men...

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You are assuming to know what she actually meant. You might be right but then lets see some credible numbers to back that up. far be it from me to defend any people or country but throwing around unsubstantiated claims is bullshit.

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Oh, and if you give some barefoot little street urchins some spare change, then it is a bit like sunset in "I am Legend" with Will 'wicky wicky wild wild wicky wicky scratch yo yo bang bang' Smith - MILLIONS of them come screaming out of nowhere at you. It's mental, and since it is not run by the glorious British Empire anymore, it is apparently now frowned upon to pull out a blunderbuss and start shooting at them. I dunno, you teach people cricket, and they show no gratitude atall.

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Haha, JOB had some interesting experiences with some real Creepin' Jesus characters!

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@ Keydeck, I googled it and the first hit I got (http://www.legalserviceindia.com/articles/etea.htm) had this to offer:

 

 

Eve Teasing In India - Some Facts And Figures

I goggled eve teasing and found many hits. Some thought provoking and shocking facts and figures about eve teasing in India are as follows:

 

# The expression eveteasing is Indian in origin. You wont find it in most of the dictionaries. Native speakers of English do not use it.

 

# Studies show that 32 percent of the eve teasers are students, 35 percent are anti socials while the remaining 33 percent are middle aged men.

 

# The number of registered cases of sexual crimes against women in India increases from 67 ,072 in 1988 to 84000 in 1993.In 1995 alone , more than 25000 cases of molestation and 12000 cases of rape were reported in the capital city of New Delhi. It is estimated that well over 80 percent of the sexual crimes go unreported. For example , 7643 of the 50000 estimated instances of violence against women were reported to the police even in Kerala , a south Indian state with the highest women?s literacy rate.

 

# An increasingly large number of college going women taking public transportation in Delhi have resorted to carrying pins, pen knives , and even daggers as a deterrent . Others have taken self defence classes.

 

# A recent survey revealed that approximately 90 percent of college women in New Delhi have experienced sexual harassment in some shape or form. Yet , it is estimated that only about 1 in 10000 eve teasing occurrences are reported to the police.

# 98 percent of the women have stated that sexual harassment on roads has affected their personal or academic development in one way or the other.

These facts may appear untrue and horrifying but they clearly show the plight of women in India. The condition is deteriorating everyday. It is high time , therefore , that we include eve teasing as a Tort under a new head of liability and curb this heinous practice.

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Again, it may well be true, but "I goggled eve teasing and found many hits." is hardly indicative of substantive research into the subject.

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It's certainly reprehensible, but "heinous practice"? What adjective would they use to describe rape or murder?

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it includes rape and murder (of women by men) Kay :rolleyes:

 

 

hardly indicative of substantive research into the subject.

...as opposed to the research you've been doing you mean?

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I've travelled a fair amount and felt much safer in Dehli than I have in many other places. I walked around the city center myself durung the day and had no probs except for people wanting to practise their english with me, and of course sell me stuff, but nothing aggressive. At night I walked around as well with a girlfriend and it still felt OK but I followed the usual rules of sticking to well lit places etc..Use common sense and it's fine. One tip is to cover you're shoulders up so perhaps avoid the vest tops. Other than that it's not super conservative.

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...as opposed to the research you've been doing you mean?

I'm not the one making the claims. All I'm saying is that your link was to an article written by a 4th year student who doesn't back up what he states with any actual research other than saying that he "goggled" it.

 

Again, I'm not saying there isn't a problem and I'm not saying whether or not the problem is worse in India than elsewhere, as I am not qualified to do so. If you make such statements as are on this thread then it is best if you can back them up with some actual facts. Otherwise it's just sensationalist tabloid bullshit and scaremongering.

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Arrrrrggggghhhhhh! Creepin' Jesus!!!

 

OP, have you been speaking to my friend Mandys grandmother perchance? She is extremely knowledgeable in India bullshit.

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it includes rape and murder (of women by men)

Not in the excerpt you quoted.

 

(And if it did, wouldn't you find it shocking to see rape and murder qualified as "eveteasing"?)

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well I didn't fancy spending my morning doing the research to come up with the facts and figures you requested. The first hit came up with facts and figures (though admittedly without naming the source) so I thought - it can't be all that difficult to find some more, and left you to it.

I would think that the fact that there are so many websites relating to eve teasing, and that India's national newspaper and a parenting site all say that eve teasing is a big problem would kind of suggest it is. Like you said, I'm not the one making the claims - I'm just passing on the info I've come across on it.

 

You judged pretty quickly (i.e. your first post) that there couldn't possibly be any truth in it (presumably without researching it)- I think that was a tad hasty that's all.

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Not in the excerpt you quoted.

if you click into the links, you will find that it does.

 

 

wouldn't you find it shocking to see rape and murder qualified as "eveteasing"

No, because my understanding of 'eve teasing' is that it is essentially the male practice of harassing women and committing acts of gender violence against them in India

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I have had many female friends visit India and all of them loved being there with no mentions of being targeted. Yes they were white , affluent but Trustafarians. The main complaint I always heard from them was concerning the trains being over loaded. I will admit I have never been there but would not think it to be bad based on my friends experiences. OP if your this worried then dont go plain and simple. I want to go so I will go plain and simple.

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The simple point to the OP is that India is very safe considering everything so really there's nothing to worry about, but keep your eyes open as you always should when abroad.

 

And Smilin Eyes, just piss off.

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It's still safer in Goa than in London, more English tourists get raped in Spain. How many of you have ever been to India? Or have any idea how to accurately judge risk?

 

Edit: And BigEnglish2009 your edited post makes much more sense than the original. It still proves precious little.

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BigEnglish, what's the point you're making? That can and does happen everywhere.

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I was doing my usual reporting of FACTS to aid Chelle63...she wanted FACTS and now has it!

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