Life in the Moabit area of Berlin

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Hi,

 

I'm moving to Berlin at the end of next week and will be trying to sort out a houseshare. I've located an advert which looks promising, but the flat is in Moabit just next to the Krankenhaus. What's this area like to live in? I've only really been investigating Prenzlberg and Mitte and possibilities, but this looks like a pretty good place.

 

Has anyone got any advice?

 

Thanks,

 

Jep

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I work near this area and I like the kiez between Alt Moabit, Bundesrat ufer and Elberfelderstrasse.

Nothing to compare with Prenzlauer Berg anyway

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I don't know what you expect, but Moabit is, like said above, not really comparable with Prenzlauer Berg and Mitte. It is mainly a rather poor residential district with a high rate of unemployed people and lot of immigrants. That said, it is not a ghetto, and the infrastructure regarding supermarkets, snack-bars, streets and public transport is relatively good and the area (old buildings and stuff) around Birkenstraße are nice.

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Thanks!

 

I'm not really sure what I'm expecting to be honest. My main priority is to find some housemates I get along well with, the area itself is less important. I've decided to go and have a look at a selection of places and see which one strikes a chord with me (and hope that the flatmates in that one don't mind me too much either!)

 

Jep

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I think frederichshain or kreuzberg are best parts! Those are the funky parts of town. Prenzlberg and mitte are ok too. Mitte nice espcialy around where the tacheles kunst haus is. Stick to the east i would say, alot of the west side is really commerical, and more expencive.

 

If your coming by yourself, then you could look into moving into a WG- a comminuty of people livivng together in an apartment.

 

Good luck :-) If you come with an open mind, you will have some of the most fun in your life in this city!

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I live in that area. For me it ticks all the right boxes: cheap and close to work.

 

The nightlife, however, it rubbish. There's lots of Germanish bars for quiet drinks, but for nights out, or another other cultural experience, you have to go elsewhere. Although, seeing as the transport connections are so good, this is never a problem. The shops are good here though - lots of reasonable and interesting Turkish shops.

 

I like it here, though.

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west berlin is of course less expensive, at least regarding flat rents.

What?

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Should I repeat just for you?

The cheapest flats are always located in Wedding, Moabit or Neukölln (at least if you're looking for something not that far outside). All in West Berlin. Most expensive area is Mitte, East Berlin.

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right, Neukolln was part of the former west berlin and mitte of the former east.

Anyway I bet that cheapest flats are instead located in the East, especially Lichtenberg, Marzahn and Hohenschonausen...

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Oh, believe me, I searched a lot and moved five times in Berlin the last 5 years. Well, Lichtenberg rivals the three, but most flats in Marzahn and Hohenschönhausen are in newer buildings (which are, at least compared with unrenovated old buildings, per se more expensive), most with elevator and thus (even if it is not much) more expensive. At least when we're talking about Warmmiete. Spandau and Reinickendorf can also be very cheap, but that's why I talked about flats not that far away outside...

 

And well, one could argue what West Berlin and East Berlin means. Don't know about you, but when I talk about West/East Berlin it's always the historical thing. Otherwise, Neukölln would be in East Berlin.

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same for me... I can only think West/East in Berlin in "wall" perspective...

and defintely, I'd never move to Licht/Marzhan/ hohenschonausen, while Neukolln may have a certain flair...

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I have lived in Moabit last year for a couple of months while looking for a long term rent. I don't find it particularly nice and, except for some cheap shopping options, it is not interesting either. Although we lived in a residential street, a few steps from a big church and an elementary school, I found it very lonely. My neighbours were either very old or unemployed. All the shops closed at 5pm and there were no bars/cafes so I didn't like walking back home at night from Turmstrasse U-bahn station. My husband says he always felt safe...but he's a 2m tall man...

I wouldn't move there and I did not find the apartments - at least the ones in very good conditions - particularly cheap.

just my opinion, of course!

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I live in Moabit and quite enjoy it here. It is not posh but I find it cleaner than P`berg and it has it`s own charm. A huge benefit is that it is very central and extremely well connected with public transport lines to all major parts of the city. The area around the Turmstraße ubahn station is plainly not nice but south of Alt Moabit toward the river can be quite beautiful with a lot of alt bau apartments and there is a nice kiez around the Birkenstraße ubahnhof station as well. It borders onto the posher part of Tiergarten and of course the Tiergarten park and zoo are within walking distance, as is Ku`damm. In my opion there are two Moabits , the poor, unemployed, migrant filled Moabit and the middle class German Moabit. You have to venture off the Turmstraße - Alt Moabit strip to see the better parts of the place. In terms of shopping there is nothing here but I think that has a lot to do with the fact that Ku´damm is only two ubahn stops away. As for entertainment, there are a few bars around the place that are usually buzzing thanks to the TU student population and there are also quite a few good restaurants that aren`t too pricey. If you are after P`berg style excitement, it is 12 minutes from Sbahnhof Beusselstraße to SchonhauserAllee on the Ringbahn. The rents are also generally cheaper than other parts of the city from what I hear.

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Can anyone give me an update on life in moabit area? I'm looking for a new wg and there are a few around Turmstrasse and Birkenstrasse. I, however, know nothing about the area and the reviews have been mixed among my friends. They say it's boring, a really nice area, a ghetto area... Let's just say I'm confused and would like to hear from someone who actually lives/lived there. My priority is that it's safe, I don't want to worry when I go home late at night. So. Anyone?

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To be honest, I love where I live in Moabit. I'm south of Alt-Moabit around the Bundesratufer /Elberfelder Str. Kiez and I can't believe we can afford it. In Chicago this would definitely be 'Riverfront' Property that would cost a fortune. It's pretty clean, full of trees, and while it is not super full of night life, it has it's share of rather nice bars and restaurants. And being a block from a beautiful part of the Spree is great, you can jog, walk, bike, whatever. While there are parts of Moabit, north of Turmstr. that are more Middle Eastern immigrant areas with casinos, etc, it does mean that there are lots of cheap places to eat and shop nearby.

 

It's no Kreuzberg or Prenzlauerberg, but I think it's so very 'European' with nice alt-bau buildings that aren't overly graffiti-ed and I can still get amazing stuffed vine leaves and 40 kinds of olives at the Turkish stores. Come have a look and see for yourself though. You'll probably see a bunch of stickers on buildings saying 'Moabit ist beste,' so there is definitely a campaign by the business owners to keep it going in a good direction. But if you are just looking for the Hipster Nightlife, this wouldn't be the area for you. But our alt-bau flat is in better condition and cheaper than almost identical flats we looked at in Kreuzberg so it just depends on what you want! good luck!

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Also, I think it is a relatively safe area of Berlin. Doesn't seem like a lot of crime happening and I don't have a problem walking around late at night or early in the morning as a female. Of course, use common sense; however I have forgotten to lock my bike properly in the past and I luckily still have it if that means anything!

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Moabit is great. But it's not at all like other places in Berlin and it's not a place full of excitment. I've found the area safe, though I actually lived right on the edge on the Spree. Technically it is considered a "social problem area", but I think its mostly overblown. The Birkenstraße area is developing into a nice student area and the Stephens Keiz is fully of Altbau, etc.

 

As for the Moabit ist Beste campaign, I believe it is the initiative of Frank Wolf and doa21 thing. I don't think it's business led, though I'm willing to be proven wrong.

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