Germany produces the best TV in the world

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Jörg Pilawa gave an interview today in the Hamburger Abendblatt. He states:

 

Ich bin viel international unterwegs, kein anderes Land macht so tolles Fernsehen wie wir.

 

(I travel a lot internationally, no other country produces such great TV as we do).

 

Well, what do you think?

 

I too travel globally, and with the possible exception of Namibian TV (also German language), German TV is the worst on the planet.

 

But rules are rules, so I'm probably not allowed to say that. Is this, once again, a case of the Germans saying 'well its German, so of course its the best'?

 

Maybe Pilawa should have been called palaver.

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Germany TV is crap.. Haven't watched it in ages... All the good/semi-good shows are Dubbed US Imports

Usually about 3 season off whats being shown in the US.

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Germany TV is crap.. Haven't watched it in over 10 years..

Maybe it's changed in that time! ;) . I doubt it though. The only thing I watch on German tv is the F1 and that's only when I can't get it on ITV because of bad weather, and their coverage is dire, massive ad breaks and two of the dullest commentators around.

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I watch a lot of German TV and Jörg Pilawa is one of the worst on the box. What a wanker to declare German TV best (not to forget he works for the public TV stations so no need to "earn " money because of GEZ)

 

I agree with Darknight that the best is dubbed US or BBC. Watch a lot of History channel and Discovery stuff in German.

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When I say watch, I mean sit down and watch for 1-2 or more hrs.. I do occasional glance/watch it for 10-15 min, while checking out the latest TVs in the stores, but that's it..

There are only 5 groups of shows Germany makes for TV. News, Kids Shows,Cooking, Traveling and Soap opera/Drama. Everything else is US Imported/Dubbed..

If your into any of those then its fine. I prefer to get my US TV in English the day after it comes out in the US. Un-dubbed and not 2-3 seasons old..

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Yep, German TV is pretty rubbish. Now we have the choice of English or German TV, pretty much all we watch on German TV is the news and maybe some other informational stuff like Wiso, just so we don't forget what country we live in. If it weren't for Mrs Guy I would hardly speak & hear German at all.

 

Nice of him to admit that the BBC have a couple of good documentaries. But the comment that no other country has 3Sat (it's produced by 3 countries' broadcasters, funnily enough), Arte (two), Phoenix or n-tv is rubbish on several levels, and to dismiss Italian TV as nothing but tutti frutti only shows more of his ignorance. Clearly he has never experienced the digital TV revolution in both countries (whether it's seen as good or bad) that has brought a plethora of channels to let people choose what they want to see, and with PVRs watch it when they want to watch it. Germany is behind the curve.

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To be fair, he did suggest that the programmes that are on das Erste, das Zweite, RTL and Sat.1 are mostly rubbish (which they are), despite his own programme appearing on das Erste. His point was that there is good programming on the smaller channels, which I'm inclined to agree with. This, however, is the case in other countries as well, so it's not really fair of him to compare the specialist channels in Germany with the populist channels in other countries.

 

Another police drama, anyone?

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By "best" does he mean that it encourages people to go find other things to do with their time, ie study, read a book, or talk to the family more than television does in other parts of the world?

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Tatort rules and this week's episode was gold. I do not care what you say, you all just hate German TV only because it is German. It is not the best TV in the world, but it is not that bad.

 

PS. Watching TV Reportage right now.

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So you enjoy shows like:

die 90er show/80show etc.

 

...die western show

(actually all Hugo Egon Balder shows suck)

 

heim im beet

 

oh and munichs own 9live

 

german tv in general is not very innovative and they have a hard time taking a good concept from someone else and building on that.

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What kind of logic are you using? Because I like some German TV it does not mean I like everything.

 

PS. And to be honest. many foreigners hate German TV because they can't speak German, or at least not enough to follow it.

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Not in my case - I speak and understand German perfectly well. It takes however, more than an understanding of the language to comprehend such wits as Helga von Sinnen, Dirk Bach, Hugo Egon Balder et al. And as for following it, what is there to follow? It just goes round in one big circle.

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It's all about what you grow up with. There are people here saying that the best stuff on German TV are the American sitcoms and dramas, but I for one don't think that monotonous weekly episodes of House or CSI add anything to the quality of the television here or anywhere else.

 

I enjoy watching programmes like Newsnight in the UK; I have no doubt that a similar programme exists here, but because I don't follow German politics closely, I'm likely to watch a bit of it and then describe it as "rubbish" or "boring". Even in the UK, you have to sort out the disappearing wheat from the mountains of chaff.

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I speak and understand German perfectly.

Very few people can do that, including all the Germans who speak German as mother language.

 

PS. We agree in the rest of your post, because many many times I understand all the words buy I do not get the real meaning. But that applies more to comedy, I think so.

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I agree with the general consensus here, i.e. that Mr Pilawa is fooling himself, although German televison does occasionally produce something worthwhile like "Neues aus der Anstalt", which can itself be a little sporadic. Like Matilda, when it's good it's very good, and when it's bad ...

When it's good it's bold, provocative, incisive, displays insight, and is a well argued argument case against the belief that Germans have no sense of humour.

 

A couple of asides:

 

The quality of acting (in the face of an endless flow of pastiche charachters) is OK, the scriptwriting is generally superficial, not very credible and childlike in the way it handles complex issues, "You Fascist, me verstehe nur Bahnhof"

The obsession with series about controllers of public order, in all their guises, is somewhat disturbing, and the country manages to produce the least likely detectives since Frank Cannon rolled over one cliff too many and Raymond Burr got stuck in his chair lift. Most detectives, especially the Bavarian ones, are at least 40 kilos overweight and are thus forced to solve their cases by permanent occupancy of the window seat in the local Gaststube and the insertion into the lower face of an unlikely number of Weisswurst and a couple of Schweinshaxe. A Mass or two seems to help the thinking process. The unworldly uniformed colleagues usually display a degree of naivety that would surprise me in the local Kindergarten, and are in any event pre-occupied with the inaccesible contents of the female officer's shirt. The "boss" cop is always a deskbound captive of his own vanity. The detective speaks perpetually with his mouth full, in an unintelligble, lazy mumble that everybody except the viewers can understand. We are given to believe this is "Bayrisch", but the reality is simply that the actor is unable to move his lips or jowels because of the volume of flesh weighing his face down. Despite all of this the solution to the case occurs to him just as he clears the last morsel from the Haxe, and the criminals wander past the Stube window as the unwordly colleague steps in. "Grab them" says the detective reaching for the desert card and another episode comes to a successful conclusion. For Bavarian detective you can also substitue Schwabian, Berliner or simply pensioner.

 

Last aside: in all series the quality of the scriptwriting is inversely proportional to the attractiveness of the location. It follows that there is absolutely no point in switching on if the subject is a German vet who's settled in the Maldives.

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It's all about what you grow up with.

I guess you are right. One might have to be a local to recognize and treasure the programs worthwhile. I for example love the german "Presseclub" on sundays. Ive seen some american political discussions on tv and for me they cant compete. Yes the german show is not very entertaining, but it lets you keep an opinion on your own. It lacks the participation of all those bullshit artists that CNN, ABC or MSNBC are offering, but if you are looking for some food for thought and stuff to discuss over lunch, "Presseclub is great.

 

For a few weeks I also had the chance to watch british tv through tvcatchup and I was completely baffled. I couldnt understand why brits on TT seriously claim that that shit was anyway better than the shit on german tv. Home improvement shows and soap operas and some weird type of sports that I couldnt identify because i switched to a different channel as fast as possible. *Yawn* In the end I didnt feel any need to waste more time with it and went back to german tv instead. ;)

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