Manners in Germany, making way for people

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Kevin: by the way, it´s not illegal to cross the street here! :D I did it myself only last Thursday.

You´re young and probably from a puritanical background and your monicker (kevinusaforever ) suggests you haven´t been around the world that much. But there´s time - become a terrier and a warrior!

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Drinking in public is only a problem for prudish, new to Europe, Americans. America seems to think that drinking is a sin, people here tend to look at it as something to do.

Again, with the nudity, prudish American thinking. There's nothing wrong with the human body. Your outdated, OMG there's a person with no clothes on my children will be scarred for life, attitude is laughable. It's you that is the wierdo, not the locals. You're not in Kansas now, grow up.

 

according to u, humanity should just forget millions of years of building a society, why covering urself up so people don't have to watch ur naked body, let's just get back to caveman time, oh wait, even they covered their private parts.

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Drinking in public is only a problem for prudish, new to Europe, Americans. America seems to think that drinking is a sin, people here tend to look at it as something to do.

Again, with the nudity, prudish American thinking. There's nothing wrong with the human body. Your outdated, OMG there's a person with no clothes on my children will be scarred for life, attitude is laughable. It's you that is the wierdo, not the locals. You're not in Kansas now, grow up.

 

They're his opinions. No point jumping down his throat because you don't agree and calling him a weirdo. How about trying to state your point without insulting him (or Americans, who you seem to have a problem with)?

 

And besides, it's all about what you're used to, and how you were brought up, isn't it? I'm not used to people drinking openly in public or nudity. Does that make me some kind of immature weirdo? Or is it more likely I was bought up elsewhere with a different culture?

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according to u, humanity should just forget millions of years of building a society, why covering urself up so people don't have to watch ur naked body, let's just get back to caveman time, oh wait, even they covered their private parts.

 

Your keyboard appears to be having trouble typing the letters y and o, whilst you're getting it fixed, maybe you could learn a little more about the country you seem know so little about.

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kevin: did cavemen cover their private parts? Dunno! Did your parents when you were conceived?

 

Well , to be honest , you may be on to a winner with your opinions here...most people do actually look revoltin

 

B) g in the nude! Yours truly included!!!

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And besides, it's all about what you're used to, and how you were brought up, isn't it? I'm not used to people drinking openly in public or nudity. Does that make me some kind of immature weirdo? Or is it more likely I was bought up elsewhere with a different culture?

 

It does if you turn up in a country and immediately start criticising it because it's not what you're used to. I have nothing against Americans, just the opposite usually, but there are some who come over here and think that just because it's not what they think is normal, it must be wrong.

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kevin: did cavemen cover their private parts? Dunno! Did your parents when you were conceived?

 

Well , to be honest , you may be on to a winner with your opinions here...most people do actually look revoltin

 

g in the nude! Yours truly included!!!

 

I propose that it be made highly illegal for thin people or those with great bodies to wear scanty clothes or go nude in public. They make the rest of us look bad. :ph34r:

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I second that, Bipa! As a thinny, I need to wear winter coats to look human even in summer! This young Kevin may be right after all! :D

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Maybe I'm going through a happy phase - I arrived here last August from South Africa, so this is my first spring since September/October 2010 and I think it's put me in an unusually good mood - but I just don't find the majority of Germans I meet to be particularly cold, unfriendly or rude.

 

Most people seem normal in their levels of friendliness, some people are very friendly (particularly when I'm walking my dog) and others are super helpful and nice. There is, however, a visible minority of people who are Kalvin cold, stone faced and just generally abhorrent. In other countries that I've lived in, those people exist... but they're few and far between (I think) and generally considered odd-balls. Here I find it much more common place and accepted that there's a group of people who are known to be stern, moany, cold, standoffish, massively unhelpful and outwardly mean. I ignore them, which I think they probably appreciate as igorance is clearly their thing!

 

My dad, who recently visited, noticed this within about two days in the country. He does have a slightly... erm British sense of humour, and may have brought some of the coldness upon himself by asking me (in an unnecessarily loud voice) if I'd reserved a table, in pretty much every restaurant we visited, by dropping by there at 6am and hanging towels over the back of a few chairs :unsure:

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Ah, MrsD..dads are embarrassing you know! I know - I´m one! When my daughter visited the other week, we went to a restaurant, weren´t sure what to order..I saw someone´s meal arrive at another table and I said " Oh, I´ll ask him what he´s having "... " Dad, NO!! ". :lol:

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My dad has this story: In a restaurant one evening, during a skiing holiday, he asked politely: "Sind diese Plätze frei?". The person at the table snapped: "NEIN" - you know the way...

 

My father then turned to a German, who was in the group, and asked, in a loud voice: "Ist das typisch deutsch?". The friend told him to shhhhhh, but that unfortun,ately, it was.

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Funny about Kevin and the nude drunks thing...

 

We notice a huge difference in drunken behaviour between here and the UK.

 

We have seen absolutely newt-ed football hooligans being firmly asked to leave a train because they were inappropriate - and been gobsmacked when they got off - no hassle - one moonie at the train (rude boy!). We have seen irate tiddly parents with roaring drunk reveller at Rosenmontag successfully negotiating addresses and insurance details over a tripped over and broken pram (baby was fine - phew!). We have seen a drunk being told to tidy up his dropped beer bottle by a pissed-off Oma, and he apologised (kind of) and got on with it. Other TTers must have seen masses of these situations.

 

In the UK we would expect to be thanked for holding the door open, we would expect a basic understanding of customer relations in even crappy shops, BUT, we would know to keep clear of crowds of drunken people, we expect public disorder and violence in many situations, and there are loads of things we simply wouldn't even attempt personal safety-wise in the UK that we wouldn't think twice about here.

 

My Dad on a visit here was amazed watching the 'Bad Kids' from the sonderschule down the road waiting for the green man and walking on the pavement down the street, making room for him as he (purposely) got in the way.

 

He would love your Dad's trick, MrsD, but thankfully he is in Durban, otherwise he'd be over here in a shot to try it out himself...

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And the mentioned nudity, sometimes there are people lying naked on the banks of the rhine, or now in Cologne there is an advertising campaign, where they have poster with naked people running into the lake, they are shown from the back, completely naked, including butt, men and women. Why don't they just replace children's tv with porn.

So....naked humans are porn for you?

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The only thing I agree about here is that the customer service here is HORRENDOUS compared to the US and im not even trying to hate on the Germans at all but they really need to do something about that.

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The only thing I agree about here is that the customer service here is HORRENDOUS compared to the US and ...

 

...the washing machine takes 3 hours and ...

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The only thing I agree about here is that the customer service here is HORRENDOUS compared to the US and im not even trying to hate on the Germans at all but they really need to do something about that.

Depends. In Supermarkets, big electronic market and stuff, you are absolutely right.

It's just that the people go there because of the price, not for the customer service.

 

In the "Fachhandel" the customer service is much better. ;)

 

 

...the washing machine takes 3 hours and ...

Lol. Guilty.

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I'll toss in my two pence.

 

On one hand, I do find the Germans to often be inconsiderate and impolite, even rude at times, but unlike the Swiss, German personality doesn't seem nearly as rooted in snobbiness as the Swiss. I sense that the Germans are generally a bit more self-confident and less concerned about whether you like them or not. Perhaps a bit self-centered and even narcissistic. Many Swiss we know just seem to believe they are better.

 

In all fairness, having lived abroad for many years, I've discovered we Brits are often "over the top" with our "politeness" (and our expectation of it) and are sometimes too quick to look down upon those who may not subscribe to the same etiquette. I've come to suspect this may be one reason why we are oft considered "snobby" by other cultures.

 

But that doesn't keep me from being rude to Germans (or Swiss) who are too self-indulged to be just a little bit considerate. For me, it's a universally desirable character trait.

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Hmm... which Swiss are you talking about? There's quite a bit of difference between the Italian, French and German Swiss, not to mention the folks who speak Romansh.

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