Manners in Germany, making way for people

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I will never ask you for anything, Casalupus. You lack the basics in human communication. You are a sad person. Anyway, one day you may change your mind: when all is sad and lonely in your life and everyone has turned their backs on you. You may think back.

 

Ask your heart whether your attitude is right.

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In my building it's quite normal to hold the door open if someone is right behind - and to say thank you. Germans do have manners.

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Am I the only one who thinks Casalupus is another member of TT using a different account just trolling everyone for shits and giggles? :ph34r:

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[T]hats an entirely different thing than such a minor thing as opening a damn door.

 

So shut up already instead of complaining about "such a minor thing".

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Wow just wow, Frieda and Casalopus,you two just don't get it huh? and to think I always wanted to visit and learn the European culture for their education,manners and consideration for others hum.

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Amazed, astounded and alarmed by those comments, especially coming from Germans. Of all European nations...

 

"All things truly wicked start from an innocence."

Ernest Hemingway

 

That includes a disregard for others, combined with a complete lack of empathy or understanding.

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I mean come on we all know that the real wars are fought on the Autobahn

 

Hell no...

 

On my local train RE train to Berlin last summer, I was heading off to Tegel for a flight with approx 60kg of baggage - get on the train and all lower carriages are full of bicycles and I do mean full, you could´nt get past at all - complained to the conductress and she just shrugged - after three stops with me lugging 60kg to the next carriage I´d had enough.

Coming up to the fourth stop, I asked the two cyclists in the corner if the bicycle nearest the door was theirs - they replied no, so when the train stopped I opened the door and placed the bicycle outside - someone came haring down from above and grabbed it and managed to get it into the carriage just as I sat down in the seat made available by moving the bike - my comment to the person who remonstrated with me went along the lines of " frankly my dear, go take a flying fuck " and or other choice epithets ( can´t remember exactly, it was hot, I was sweating like a bugger and not in the mood to stand for over an hour because some tossers have no compunction about completly blocking seats and passageways - safety hazard in itself FFS )

 

Autobahns are for wusses - sweaty in your face on public transport wins hands down every time

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Wow just wow, Frieda and Casalopus,you two just don't get it huh? and to think I always wanted to visit and learn the European culture for their education,manners and consideration for others hum.

 

European culture, sipapito? It´s difficult to generalise about a whole Continent. I used to be married to a Spanish woman and when we lived in London her/our Spanish friends couldn´t understand how people there said " please " and " thank you " so much. Yes, I know we all start Spanish classes with " por favor " and " gracias " but her/our friends often found it superficial. " They don´t mean it "....na ja, what´s superficial?

But maybe things have changed anyway..that was over 20 years ago. No idea..but I still have in my English mindset a please or thank you cannot do any harm. Opening a door cannot do any harm, can it? Closing it may take more effort, though!! ( Especially if you are ignored by a grumpy old sod ). :(

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Bitte and Danke are for things I have asked for.

 

How strange. You certainly asked for all those 'reddies' (-54 and counting) and haven't thanked anyone yet. :P

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I dont take it as chivalry. Its an intrusion to my private sphere, because someone is wanting appreciation for something I havent asked for...thats the odd part. When I wanted somebody to open the door for me because I am not able to I ask for it. Simples.

 

You haven't understood the concept of politeness.

 

Holding the door means acknowledging the other person's presence and making sure the door won't swing back into their face. It's a matter of being civilised.

 

You interpret this behaviour negatively by suggesting that the other person wants appreciation. Of course, any friendly/polite gesture could be interpreted in this way, and this might actually explain why many Germans have a - let's say: underdeveloped sense of politeness. The Brits are much further in this respect

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I don't use to write here, because I'm German, so I have nothing to say. It's just funny to read these theards, because I get a new view of the world, by you. Thank you. So please don't be a meany about my poor english and my barefacedness to write here.

I'm just really shocked how you react and replied Casalupus answers. He may be a troll or something like that, but talking about being polite and than not to tolerate his opinion made me shock. How can you judge about him?

It's not a big deal not to open the door for others, but mostly it's done by others if they are 1 m away from you.

I'm just stunned about your reactions and after that telling about politeness. Comparing something, what is not compareable (helping if someone is in a pinch or open the door).

Chivraly..Seriously?

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Yes, actually I'm his Mutti, 34 years old and so gutted of life that I became a bitter mother, tired of politeness.. :o jk, I'm not that old

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good that i found this thread, because i need to just get some stuff out.

 

What is it with germans and being so close all the time. I am waiting in line and the people are literally 2 inch away, they breathe straight down my neck. Then i step a little forward to get some space, and they just move right up. I am just thinking "hey i didn't move forwards so u can be a little closer to the register, i moved forward so i don't have to feel ur breath on my neck". Then they just bump into u while standing, and no apology. Same in subways, i stand in front of the door, the train hasn't even stopped yet and they are already pushing. I am getting out too, why do u think i went from the seat to the door?

 

Or why do germans just stop right in the middle of the street, just walk on the "hohe strasse" and people will just stop to look around, how about going to the side first?

 

It seems like Germany is one step away from a state where they just punch each other when they want to get pass someone, u want to pick something up in a store to look at it or get out of the subway but someone is in the way? Just punch him or her in the face.

 

And then there is the worst customer service ever, basically there are to types in Germany, the first is when they just answer like one word in a very bitchy way, like how does someone dare to ask a salesperson a question. Then the other where they just try to sell u the most expensive thing they have, nevermind if it's the device u actually need. And of course they have no training at all on their products. If u ask someone for example in the cell phone department about a phone, the only things they know are what is written on the label next to the device. If u ask anything more particular they fumble with the phone for a few seconds and then say they don't know.

 

And how about a cashier that smiles? How can the manager of the stores let people greed customers with a look on their face that basically says "F**k you, F**k this job"

 

And then there is the public drinking/nudity problem. There are basically drunks on every subway station in the city area, on the evening and weekends often teenagers run through the streets with liqupr in their hands and nobody seems to care, police walks right by, doing nothing.

 

And the mentioned nudity, sometimes there are people lying naked on the banks of the rhine, or now in Cologne there is an advertising campaign, where they have poster with naked people running into the lake, they are shown from the back, completely naked, including butt, men and women. Why don't they just replace children's tv with porn.

 

But it's illegal to cross the street.

 

Last thing the douchebags who run into u on the street, there is enough room to walk and and they have to walk in the middle, when someone comes towards them, they don't move, if u don't move to the right or left, u basically run into each other.

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Calm down, kevinusaforever! You´re 22 or so and you´re worried about public drinking and nudity??? :D

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And then there is the public drinking/nudity problem. There are basically drunks on every subway station in the city area, on the evening and weekends often teenagers run through the streets with liqupr in their hands and nobody seems to care, police walks right by, doing nothing.

 

And the mentioned nudity, sometimes there are people lying naked on the banks of the rhine, or now in Cologne there is an advertising campaign, where they have poster with naked people running into the lake, they are shown from the back, completely naked, including butt, men and women. Why don't they just replace children's tv with porn.

 

But it's illegal to cross the street.

 

Somehow I knew you were American, all this fear of nudity, and at such a young age, shame!

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And then there is the public drinking/nudity problem. There are basically drunks on every subway station in the city area, on the evening and weekends often teenagers run through the streets with liqupr in their hands and nobody seems to care, police walks right by, doing nothing.

 

And the mentioned nudity, sometimes there are people lying naked on the banks of the rhine, or now in Cologne there is an advertising campaign, where they have poster with naked people running into the lake, they are shown from the back, completely naked, including butt, men and women.

 

Drinking in public is only a problem for prudish, new to Europe, Americans. America seems to think that drinking is a sin, people here tend to look at it as something to do.

Again, with the nudity, prudish American thinking. There's nothing wrong with the human body. Your outdated, OMG there's a person with no clothes on my children will be scarred for life, attitude is laughable. It's you that is the wierdo, not the locals. You're not in Kansas now, grow up.

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