Jobs on U.S. Army bases in Germany

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Well im just mentioning AAFES because from what i have seen they have lot's of openings. But i would be open to look at other posibilities. I have seen on USAJobs that the person applying for the job is supposed to be living close to where he is applying for in this case the base. So if that is the case i would have to wait till im in Germany to apply. Thanks for all the recommendations.

 

Dude, I'd forget usajobs.gov. Unless you know the person hiring, getting a GS/GG job is like the hardest thing in the world. Try being a contractor. It's much easier.

 

 

The Buzz is that Mannheim PX, Commissary ect will be gone by the end of this year. Last person to tell me this was the cashier at the PX yesterday. Coleman barracks is also supposed to move elsewhere.

 

Wow there are still bases in Mannheim? What about Heidelberg?

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IMHO I disagree about USA Jobs although it is discouraging as it can take a long time (took me 10-months and I was a curent gov worker), but it IS a truism about hiring -the best chance to get hired is via networking and then being well qualified for the position. Get your resume in to USAJobs and the Army Jobs site [and the Navy, (USAF uses USAJobs), DISA, DIA, TSA, etc…]. Each one has different resume rules and requires a different resume, format and supporting data –pay close attention, it’s the 1st cut in selection (i.e. following directions). If you don’t apply you have 0% chance… If you have a vet pref -USE IT you earned it (yes, it requires even more paperwork, but points are points). There are preference points for widows, etc… also so do the paperwork and apply.

If you have never written a Gov resume before then buy a book and take a class in how to write a Gov resume –it is not like writing a normal resume. For DOD, the initial cut is via computer, so if your resume does not conform, then it goes to the bit bucket. For those that can, take the resume class offered by Army Community Services (or whoever) on the installation (or any installation, it’s all roughly the same), heck take it twice! Unfortunately, as w/any training, quality varies with the instructor.

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The Buzz is that Mannheim PX, Commissary ect will be gone by the end of this year. Last person to tell me this was the cashier at the PX yesterday. Coleman barracks is also supposed to move elsewhere.

 

Again, perhaps McCully Barracks in Wackernheim? I heard that they are renovating and building up the place to accomodate the move.

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Wow there are still bases in Mannheim? What about Heidelberg?

 

Heard the Heidelberg (Campbell Bks) will be moving to Wiesbaden AAF.

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A couple of bases in Mannheim will probably close, but the rest & Heidelberg will probably now stay until at least 2013. For jobs check out graffenwohr & that area as they seem to be expandding & there are quite a few jobs posted.

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My husband is currently working in the IT field at an Army base near Stuttgart. We just found out that the contract he is working under will not be renewed this year. We have been looking for jobs around the area and also in other parts of Germany; we do not mind moving. He is working as a Systems Administrator, has a TS-SCI and is TESA approved. You mentioned that you work for an IT firm. If you are aware of any open Sys Admin positions with your company, any info you can send me would be great. I hope I'm not overstepping my bounds here.

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ice2 ends this year, should be a fair amount of turnover then. of course, that would also tend to indicate the quality of the work environment too

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flint24 -

 

My husband is currently working in the IT field at an Army base near Stuttgart. We just found out that the contract he is working under will not be renewed this year. We have been looking for jobs around the area and also in other parts of Germany; we do not mind moving. He is working as a Systems Administrator, has a TS-SCI and is TESA approved. You mentioned that you work for an IT firm. If you are aware of any open Sys Admin positions with your company, any info you can send me would be great. I hope I'm not overstepping my bounds here.

 

He could apply for a GS job here in Grafenwoehr at the Regional Operations Center (ROC) as a IT Specialist (2210 series). Don't know if the position has closed or not.

http://www.cpol.army.mil

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He could apply for a GS job here in Grafenwoehr at the Regional Operations Center (ROC). Don't know if the position has closed or not.

If he applies in country though, he won't be entitled to housing allowance. Have you tried SAIC, they generally have a few contracts on the go.

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flint24 -

 

My husband is currently working in the IT field at an Army base near Stuttgart. We just found out that the contract he is working under will not be renewed this year. We have been looking for jobs around the area and also in other parts of Germany; we do not mind moving. He is working as a Systems Administrator, has a TS-SCI and is TESA approved. You mentioned that you work for an IT firm. If you are aware of any open Sys Admin positions with your company, any info you can send me would be great. I hope I'm not overstepping my bounds here.

 

Not at all, but I'm surprised he's not able to find jobs in Stuttgart. I use to work at Patch and Kelley and there are always more there than there are here in Hohenfels. Is he working for CSC? SRA? A friend of mine recently found a nice job in Stuttgart making 6 figures Euro, working off base and still TESA approved. It's a small company too, not too advertised.

 

Graf is a big base with some jobs. My company (Raytheon) is kinda known up there but CSC has a larger presence I think. We just lost a really good ADA and Java programmer here in Hohenfels too. I'd check out Kaiserslautern also. There's always lots of jobs there. Raytheon has a few positions open there, and also CACI and GD. I'd also check out clearancejobs.com, and do a search for Germany.

 

I've never had problems finding a job here, and with your husband having a TS/SCI he shouldn't either. Tailor your resume to what's exactly on the job description, keep it truthful, and when you've pushed it out give them a call to let them know you've sent it. I've always gotten jobs when I called them directly.

 

Anyway you can PM me.

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Thank you all for your much appreciated suggestions and advice. It seems like we haven't explored all the options we have! Thanks to the sites you have suggested, he has just applied for a few more jobs. We will have to wait and see what happens. Sounds like GS jobs are hard to get but once you are in you are set! Thank you again for your help!

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My experiences working on a Kaserne near Ansbach were bad. As stated before, it is an "Old Boys Club" or as I like to think of as "the Mafia". I worked as a wage grade cook after serving 22 years in the military. The job looked good and at that point anything would do.

 

I was faced with a work environment completely alien to my previous experiences. I worked at the CDC as a part time cook who was expected to work 36 hours a week. There was another cook in the kitchen that had been there over 15 years (Mr. T) Mr T on my very first day told me that I was to do all the cooking and cleaning and he would do everything else. Not knowing better I tried to do my best and was told I was a great cook and the management said they liked me a lot.

 

Well it turned out that Mr. T meant what he said. He slept 3 to 6 hours a day in the office behind the kitchen and did about 3 hours of work a week. If I said anything to him he told me that he has been here so long that he can do what he wants. He also went off to take care of business nearly everyday and came back smelling of burgerking...."aha, business". So I complained to management.

 

I did so often and was met with a mix of lies, half truths and complete ineptness... I was told many things such as "Nothing we can do really", "It can't be that bad", "what do you want me to do?" and at the top of my list "If you don't like it quit".

 

Following one of my "Private" meetings with the director of the CDC the stuff really hit the fan. My private meeting had been relayed to Mr. T and he took it on himself to threaten me. I was harrassed everyday! EVERYDAY! I was told I was stupid, and lazy. Threatened to "kick my ass" (his words) at least once a week nd threstened to get me fired.

 

I have children at home and needed a job, I put up with this for over 2 years. All the time I was searching for another job but was not able to find anything. Not even an interview. Nothing! My applications were not even answered. I found out from a friend that when I applied for jobs that when they checked my background at the CDC Mr. T would lie so I couldn't get employment.

 

So, I quit, I later heard from several of my my friends here that this kind of thing happens all the time here in Anbach.When applying to NAF jobs remember this. The people here are often here for a reason, they are often unemployable so they are taken on my other mafia members and hidden in the system.

 

I now know why Katterbach and surrounding kaserns are the worst in Germany.... Don't think I am telling the truth? well try yourself.

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If he applies in country though, he won't be entitled to housing allowance. Have you tried SAIC, they generally have a few contracts on the go.

 

That's not necessarily true. If he is covered by TESA and already receiving housing allowance as a contractor, he can continue to do so as a GS civilian. I know because that's what my husband did. He was a contractor for 3 years, and then was hired as a government civilian. We were able to continue to receive housing allowance and are eligible to receive all other benefits offered to state-side hired civilians (home leave, paid trip back to the States after 3 years, priority placement when our 5 year time limit is up, etc.).

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I was faced with a work environment completely alien to my previous experiences. I worked at the CDC as a part time cook who was expected to work 36 hours a week. There was another cook in the kitchen that had been there over 15 years (Mr. T) Mr T on my very first day told me that I was to do all the cooking and cleaning and he would do everything else. Not knowing better I tried to do my best and was told I was a great cook and the management said they liked me a lot.

 

Well it turned out that Mr. T meant what he said. He slept 3 to 6 hours a day in the office behind the kitchen and did about 3 hours of work a week. If I said anything to him he told me that he has been here so long that he can do what he wants. He also went off to take care of business nearly everyday and came back smelling of burgerking...."aha, business". So I complained to management.

 

I did so often and was met with a mix of lies, half truths and complete ineptness... I was told many things such as "Nothing we can do really", "It can't be that bad", "what do you want me to do?" and at the top of my list "If you don't like it quit".

 

Following one of my "Private" meetings with the director of the CDC the stuff really hit the fan. My private meeting had been relayed to Mr. T and he took it on himself to threaten me. I was harrassed everyday! EVERYDAY! I was told I was stupid, and lazy. Threatened to "kick my ass" (his words) at least once a week nd threstened to get me fired.

 

Forget being a cook, you should try being a comedian. I know it was your life, and I'm sorry you had such a rough time, but this part is hilarious. Mr. T meant what he said.. LOL LMAO That totally sounds like the typical lazy NAF worker (no offense to the hard working ones).

 

Seriously, start writing a blog. NOW!

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Flint24, Thanks for your comments they really warmed me... To blog or not to blog...hmmm. Might serve my crusade to write...

 

After reading your post I am happy to see that you are a typical lazy contractor worker (no offense to the nonself opinionated ones). I hope that cut backs don't burst your over inflated ego. I on the other hand am I enjoying the profits of working for a german firm.... oh, sorry you will never know what that is like as you, like most contracted workers, are not qualified to work in the real job market.

 

Ah, but I regress. This kind of post is exactly why people that give a damn about the work place should never have anything to do with Army Europe. Good luck to you.

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Man I wasn't being a smart ass, I was being serious. I had a long day yesterday and your post about your old boss really made me laugh. I had so many shitty bosses like that before. Sorry if you took it the wrong way. Calm down and go back and read my post again.

 

Cut backs or no cut backs, qualified or not, I've never had trouble finding a job anywhere in the world because I make myself marketable by being the best in the room. Remember that concept? Hope all these years working in the "superior" German workplace don't make you forget that. I agree with you, working in the Army Europe sucks. You're fighting the wrong guy here.

 

And about working on the German side, bro I think in the next couple years here i'm going to leave gov't contracting for good and go back to the states. I LOVE traveling, and there are plenty of jobs back home that'll allow me to travel to more than one place on the company's dime. You should look at that too... But I'd quit while I'm ahead before you find some offense in my suggestion ;)

 

Good luck to you :)

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No offense taken. I had hope for a response, like, "Wow, can this be true? let me foreward this to someone who can kick the CDCs A**". But Bro, I guess I was living a pipe dream.

 

I had such a hard time there that I thought I would go on this crusade and let everyone know that NAF isn't (in most cases) a place for anyone to work who has tallent and drive.

 

Blogging does sound cool.

Peace!

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I'd love to help, but I don't know if there's anyone who hates contractors more that the gov't. I couldn't help unfortunately.

 

Again, please don't take offense in this, but I was ex Air Force and I notice the NAF quality and customer service go downhill when I started working on Navy and Army bases. That may be the common denominator. Your old boss sounds like a lazy sack of shit, and if he worked for me I would have fired his ass. But you know the gov't (like the German workplace, I hear) is not in the business of firing people that don't work. As long as it looks good on paper, it's all good.

 

Livejournal is a pretty good online blog to get you started. I use it. They've even got an iPhone app. http://www.livejournal.com/

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That's not necessarily true. If he is covered by TESA and already receiving housing allowance as a contractor, he can continue to do so as a GS civilian. I know because that's what my husband did. He was a contractor for 3 years, and then was hired as a government civilian. We were able to continue to receive housing allowance and are eligible to receive all other benefits offered to state-side hired civilians (home leave, paid trip back to the States after 3 years, priority placement when our 5 year time limit is up, etc.).

 

Unfortunately, it well might be true - it depends a good deal on what kind of move-back option the employer has. Your husband probably had a "transportation agreement" not dissimilar to the ones active-duty and GS get. If it was a "moving bonus," PLEASE PM me - it would make a lot of difference to some current and former colleagues.

 

For my contract, it's a moving bonus, with the flat dollar amount dependent on the number of years worked on the contract - no connection to number of dependents or amount of stuff. Since it is not a transportation agreement, it's not valid for continuing housing once picked up as a GSer.

 

Several of my (former) colleagues have moved over or attempted to move over to GS. The ones who got housing were all very recent (>12 months) Army retirees. Their transportation agreements with the Army were still in force since they had been separated from the Army for less than a year - if they had wanted to move back to the States, the Army would have spent just as much at that point as they'd have been willing to had they decided to move back the day they got out. The one who didn't manage to get housing as a GSer after fighting for several months and the ones who decided not to take the GS positions because they were denied housing had been on the contract for awhile.

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Hey folks, was hoping someone might be able to help me figure out what or where I may be able to apply for work. My fiance just got a job working as a contractor at the U.S. Army base in Mannheim. He will be command sponsored. We are state side right now. We are not married, we're common law, but that leaves me out for any NAF jobs. I have worked NAF and AAEFS before years ago in the 1980's, but was a military dependent at that time. I am not anymore. I've been working on my masters degree in social work (Not finished yet, but more than half way through) and have a ba degree in another field. I was hoping I might find something as an entry level case worker on the base working with military families??? I've looked at USA jobs, but most of those jobs require the master's degree. Any ideas folks, I realize I am kind of limited as to where I can apply. No, I do not speak German :( Does anyone know of any contracting firms that use caseworkers at the Army base in Mannheim? I do have some experience working with homeless veterans....I enjoyed that a great deal!

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