Getting medical registration in Germany

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Hi I am a qualified medical doctor from Australia with specialisation in orthopaedic surgery. Once we get settled, child care, some german language skills etc. I would like to work. Are there any medicos out there with any experience in dealing with the German authorities in this? My husband is a german specialist doctor, and has many useful contacts, if anyone needs help in that direction also.

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J

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Hi, Jelly!

I´m a anaesthesist from Bonn and just dealing with the British GMC, so I have some experience with both the German and the British authorities. First you have to contact the "Deutsche Ärztekammer"; they will help you to find the right office for your registration (www.aekno.de for Düsseldorf).

Have a nice weekend!

Helmut

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Hi,

I am an Indian Doctor. Recently I got a job offer from German Hosptial to work. They told me to apply for Resident Visa & Medical Registration in German Medical Council. I would like to know what are the requirements to get the registration. Do i need to submit the German Language Certificate at that time? I m learning German, but it will take time to get the Certificate. Can we apply for Resident Visa & Medical Registration together? How much time it takes? Please guide me.

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Hi,

I have been here for about 6 months (Family Physician from SA) and what I have learned is the following:

 

1) Doctors who want to work clinically need to speak GOOD German. I believe the local Landratsampt sets the level. In Bavaria where I am, I think its level B2. Where A is Kindergarten level and C2 Native-like profficiency. One needs to obtain a certificate (Certifate Deutsch) before you will be registered for clinical work.

2) If one has a post-graduate degree/specialization then getting recognized is usually not a problem. Here again it differs from Bundesland to Bundesland. They each have individual requirements. (I have heard if one does not get accepted in your Bundesland, you could try again in another with a new residential address. Once registration is obtained you just "move" to the Bundesland where you actually live.)

3) All one's certificates and degrees (e.g. certificate of good standing from your home country etc) needs to be copied in its original language by a recognised commisioner of oaths and then they also need to be translated into German by a certified translator of German.

4) Anyone with an EU passport should get employment easily. If not, however, its a bit more complicated. Your future employer needs to prove that they have advertised the post for 3 months and that no suitable candidate with EU passport has been found. Only then can they appoint you.

5) Its all about contacts. If you get in touch with the right people they could motivate an appointment for you etc.

 

These are the requirements for Bavaria, but each other Bundesland is different. If anyone wants the links to get the official forms for Bavaria just PM me. Also I have a German relative (In South Africa) who is a qualified translator that could be used but I am sure there are plenty available locally.

Hope this helps!

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Many thanx for your replies.

Basically, I m from India.

I have got translated all my documents in German. Will it be okay if i get it attested from German Embassy?

My destination for Medical Registration would be Rostock (North Germany). Should I apply from India for Registration or I can get register after coming there too?

I m not a post graduate. Will be getting "Asst. Artz" position there. What are the required documents that I should enclose while applying for Registration?

My last query, My marriage certificate is attested by a local authority which is 'Marriage Registrar'. Do I need to authorize it from some other authority like Ministry of External Affairs?

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hi everyone

am just fishing up my internship in Libya ...and am interested in doing residency in Germany my fiancee is Spanish and living with me here in Libya ...

i dont know if its possible to get residency where i can work and get paid as well in germany

am sure that i need to speak german and i can do that i think in 5 months maybe or so but rather then that what is the requirements as my degree is from libyan university and its recognized by WHO.

 

thanks

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hi everyone,

I am completing my course of mbbs presently i am in my last year. I wanted to do my post graduation in germany. I wanted some info on this matter. And do i need to give any exam for this matter. I will be highly obliged by your help.

Thanks.

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hi everybody

i need help too.i am from india.please let me know the procedure to get registration and work in germany.do i have to pass any exam?please help me.what site do i visit to get all the info.

thnx a lot.waiting for reply

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Hey Rachael - There a German word you need to learn - "Ärzteschwemme". It means floods of doctors and indicates that there are actually more doctors in Germany at the moment than are needed (correction: More doctors than the medical care system can finance). About 50% of my (German) friends are doctors of various sorts and although they are all in work, getting a decent job can be hard for them, let alone someone coming in from outside. Be prepared for horribly long hours for bad pay (in a clinic) or major investment for setting up on your own. The upside of that is that the conidtzions for (German) doctors are so bad that lots are leaving, leaving empty spaces for foreigners to come in. Your absolute ebst chance is to set up as a specialist in a rural area where there isnt such a specialist yet, but whether thats a good life plan or not you will need to decided. As an example - Where I live (town) you can hardkly spit without hitting several orthopedic surgeries. Where my wife comes from (rural), youll have to wait weeks or even several months for an appointment with the orthopedic specialist in the area

 

If you want to work as a doctor in Germany you first need a job offer. Then you either need to get your qualification generally recognised ("Approbation") or you need a temporary permit ("Berufserlaubnis - Limited to 4 years) from your local Ärtzekammer. What exactly this entails will depend on where you come form and where (Bundesland) you want to work - Each "Land" in Germany has its own detailed rules. If you want to work as a specialist you will either need to get your specialist training recognised and/or do the training in Germany. The level of recognition of your currentz training could range from rubber stamp if youre from an EU country to "youre not a doctor here" if your training took place somewhere less stable.

 

Check out http://www.bundesaerztekammer.de/page.asp?his=1.109.112.3313.

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what a depressing picture!!what is the salary there?can u give me an idea?do i have to be fluent in german laguage cause right now i am abs.nil in it.do the folks out there not speak english at all?sorry for troubling you but please do enlighten me.thnx

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Hi,

 

I am a physician from Bangladesh. I have completed my MBBS degree and 1 year Interneeship from Bangladesh. Recently, i shifted in Baden-Würtemmberg, Germany. I am learning German. I want to know, how can I proceed further for doing a specialization? Or what should I do now to work in a Hospital?

 

Important information will be highly appreciable! waiting for reply.

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Check these links:

 

General information about medical registration in Germany: http://ec.europa.eu/health/ph_systems/docs/turantur_en.pdf

 

Contact information for the medical registration boards of all German bundeslaender: http://www.bundesaerztekammer.de/downloads/Behoerden20091030.pdf

 

 

Basically, you first need to send in your documents to the medical board of the Bundesland where you wish to work. These documents must first be translated into German by an official translator. You can find one here: http://www.bdue.de/indexen.php.

 

Also, you must provide proof that you have passed a Level B2 (Advanced) German language test. Here is some information about the test: http://www.goethe.de/lrn/prj/pba/bes/gb2/enindex.htm

 

The board will inform you if you education is recognized or not. If not, then you might have to study a few months/years/whatever more to reach the German level. If it is recognized, then you can start looking for jobs. Best place to look for jobs is here: http://www.aerzteblatt.de/v4/stellen/maske.asp The site is updated every Friday so keep checking for new positions.

 

Under "Fachgebeit" select the speciality you are interested in. Under "Funktion" select "Assistenzarzt" (That is the german word for "resident") You can also enter your postal code under "PLZ" if you wish. Then click "Suchen". This will give you a list of all the places that are looking for Assistenzaerzte. Contact them by phone or email. Don't expect a reply if you write in English.

 

 

Good luck.

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Yeah - I am pretty sure that Zertifikat Deutsch is at the end of C1 level. Having sat through B2 and C1 classes, I would be DAMN SCARED if my doctor could only speak to B2 level in a language because, when you go to get healthcare, you tend to expect your doctor should be relatively fluent and capable of expressing the fine details of his/her care to a patient.

 

Even C1 level isn't all that great...

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I have zertifikat deutsch it is what you get in the integration course and is only level b1.

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About learning German - in addition to your normal classes, you could also start learning specialised medical vocabulary early on. There are several textbooks for this, among others "Deutsch im Krankenhaus. Berufssprache für Ärzte und Pflegekräfte", Level A2-B2, by Langenscheidt.

 

Deutsch im Krankenhaus

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@ rachelmchang, surprisingly enough most Germans don't speak English and couldn't learn it even if they have English subject since grade 1. And Germany is not a good place for English-speaking doctors if you don't speak German fluently, regardless if you're highly skilled and more competent than some of the local ones. What's important in Germany for doctors is to speak fluent German, be sure you are white, and should have a boxed-type thinking.

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hi there,

i want to know how to get the medical registration in germany.

i am a british national but i have done my education in the field of medicine in Pakistan.

i have done MBBS and Post Graduate Diploma In Anaesthesia .

 

thanks

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