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  1. Has anyone recently applied for einburgerung at Burgeramt Pankow ? How long did it take to get Termin there, and how long did the process take. Currently it shows appointments only until 21. November, (all booked). Can anybody share their experience?
  2. Hello TT readers,   I am a EU national pondering whether or not to apply for German citizenship (naturalization).  I fulfill all the requirements but don’t really feel much will change for me in my everyday life in here whether I am a German national or a EU national.  However, the example of Brexit have made me think if I should use the opportunity that I fulfill all the requirements and apply for citizenship.   Should something crazy like the disolution of the EU or another “Brexit type” situation involving my home country ever happen, it would be nice to have the same rights as German citizens, but it also poses the question if there are any (seldom talked about) obligations that could eventually be seen as a drawback after becoming a German citizen.     Particularly, I am interested to know if there are any tax or financial implications (besides the application fees).  For instance, I think it is likely that at some point in the future I would like to live and work in another country before retirement, and also, most likely once retired, I would like to live in another EU country (other than Germany).  These potential future plans make me wonder if naturalization is the right thing for me...   1a) Do German citizens residing abroad need to fill out a tax declaration in Germany every year even if they don’t have any income, capital gains or property in Germany?   1b) Linked to 1a above, I will definitely have a pension associated to my years of contribution to the German social security system.  If I reside abroad after retirement, will that pension have a different tax treatment (in Germany) if I am a German citizen as opposed to a EU national?   2) Is there a difference in tax treatment for inheritance purposes between German citizens and EU nationals while residing in Germany?   3) Are German citizens required to pay any special taxes or contributions to the German system while residing abroad?   I appreciate your thoughts / advice with regards to these questions.  Much appreciated!            
  3. Hi All I am naturalized German citizen since 2020, originally from non EU country   I gave up my original citizenship, during process of receiving German citizenship because the person from citizenship office told it was a big chance that I would not get German citizenship if I would refuse to give up original citizenship   When I received citizenship certificate in 2020 I asked again if I could apply for double citizenship (beibehaltungsgenehmigung) to restore my original citizenship and have both, but the person there was also sceptical that this would work.   I am interested if someone here is naturalized German citizen , originally from Non EU country and received double citizenship (beibehaltungsgenehmigung) after applying it?  is it possible at all ? and what  are conditions of successful application? of course I know it is possible to get beibehaltungsgenehmigung, question is if it is possible for naturalized German citizens   p.s restoring citizenship in my country of origin is very easy and straightforward,  problem is German side because such action, getting another citizenship causes to lose German citizenship if no beibehaltungsgenehmigung was permitted. 
  4. There are plenty of threads about renunciation, but none that scratch my particular paranoid itch. I understand that if I renounce, I will have to apply for a visa or waiver like any other non-citizen, and legally, I'm guessing, upon entry I should be treated like any other non-citizen. Legally. But I have certain fixed and uncharitable ideas about the kind of people who work at border control--namely that they have certain fixed and uncharitable ideas about the kind of person who'd give up US citizenship. And so I'm wondering whether I could expect any particularly bad treatment when I go back "home" to visit. Do you have any personal experience with this? Have you heard any stories? And if I missed a thread that addresses this particular topic, I'd love to see a link. Thanks!
  5. Hello Everyone, I have a problem in getting German citizenship for my new born in Germany. I am an Indian, living and working in northern Germany for past 9 years. I had an apointment scheduled with ausländerbehörde in April 2020 for applying for my Permanent residence. Unfortunately the apointment was cancelled due to Corona lockdown. I tried seeking for new apointments the whole 2020 and I could not get one. Finally I had my apointment on 04.02.2021 and submitted my documents. My son was born here in Germany on 13.02.2021.  I asked Einbuergerung amt if my son is eligible for German citizenship. They replied saying he wont get German citizenship as I dont have a permanent residence permit. I asked my ausländerbehörde back from when my permanent residence would be valid and they replied it is valid from 19.02.2021. As my residence permit is granted 6 days later of my child birth, Einbuergerung amt refused German citizenship for my child stating I should have it at the date when my child was born. Can someone help me with my situtation what I can do next, so that I can try getting my son German citizenship? Regards, Yash
  6. New citizenship by descent rules

    Hi,    I'm aware that there's some similar posts regarding the changes to Article 116(2) but they don't deal with the particular circumstances I'm looking at (for instance, they commonly deal with loss of citizenship by virtue of religion, etc). My Omi was born in Berlin in 1921, and subsequently married a foreign man - my Grandfather - in 1948, in Berlin. I believe that as a result of this she would've had her citizenship revoked. My own mother was born in the UK in 1958, and I was born in the UK in 1982.   I believe that the recent changes allow citizenship to be restored to my Grandmother and that eligibility for citizenship would be provided to both my mother and myself, as per the following:   In some cases, German citizenship may have been lost by marriage German women who married a foreign citizen before 23 May 1949 lost their German citizenship even if they thereby became stateless. German women who married a foreign citizen between 23 May 1949 and 31 March 1953 lost their German citizenship only if they did not become stateless. They can be renaturalised subject to certain requirements. Please see Renaturalisation and discretionary naturalisation for more information. (Source:   Which descendants are entitled to claim restoration of German citizenship? A descendant born to a parent who was deprived of German citizenship and before the parent's citizenship was restored also has a claim under Article 116 II of the Basic Law. Each descendant has an individual claim, subject to eligibility. It is thus possible for grandchildren to apply, even if their parents decide not to. Please note however, that children younger than 16 require parental consent. (Source:   I'm looking to engage with lawyers in Germany to validate this but it seems like perhaps quite a niche case. I'd welcome any thoughts from those who have better knowledge/experience of this.   Thanks!
  7. Hi All,   Has anyone in the group successfully applied for German citizenship under the 2019 decrees regarding discretionary naturalization (14 StAG not covered under Article 116)?   As many of you may be aware, BVA now allows for applications for German citizenship to be made for those from a maternal line before 1953 who lost citizenship for a variety of reasons (including women losing German citizenship simply for marrying a non-German). This relates to children born in wedlock.   Curious as to whether anyone has practical experience, advice, and what processing times may be.   Thank you in advance for your feedback!          
  8. For example, let's say I have already been in Germany for 1 year, then I go to another EU country for ERASMUS program for 1 semester (6 months). Does it mean the years of residence required for naturalization will be reset because I left Germany for 6 months? In other words, does the 8 year residence requirement have to be 'continuous' or can I have gaps in my stay in Germany?