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  1. A follow-on from the recently closed (Dec 2016) topic on "Brexit: UK referendum on leaving the EU. How it affects British expats"... Let's see where this snow ball eventually ends up.
  2. Hi folks, I am writing a report about a possible Brexit and how it could affect british expats. What do you think about this? Did any of you ever consider applying for German citizenship? Susanne
  3. I am a British/German dual national living in Germany and I became eligible for a UK State Pension in July of this year. I received a letter from the DWP today which states that If you live in a EEA country you will continue to receive annual increases for 3 years up to and including 2022-23 even in the event of no deal. They go on to say that the government plans to negotiate an agreement to ensure the increases continue longer term.   So, to my questions: 1) Why does the UK need to negotiate this? Surely they can decide to pay the increases without involving any other country in the decision.   2) What are the chances of the UK coming to an agreement with either the EU or, in the case of no-deal, with Germany, for the UK State Pension annual increases to continue longer term?   Thanks in advance for any answers.
  4. In case this information is useful to others, here I share my experiences at the Ausländerbehörde last week, applying for permanent residency due to brexit. I was stressed by the lack of information before I went, and didn't find much information here. So maybe this will help those who haven't yet had their appointment.    it didn't take me long to find the right waiting room, although there are many in the building. I would allow approximately 10 minutes once at the building to climb the stairs and locate the room. It's also important to get off at the correct underground exit, assuming you arrived that way. The building is not obviously official, though it does have a plaque on the gate with the correct name.  it's opposite a beautiful garden with fountains, which is a nice place to go once you've finish there.    I think that at the at the moment they're only seeing people who have lived in Germany more than 5 years. I'm in that category. Everybody else in the waiting room with me at the Ausländerbehörde was too, and some of them had already been granted permanent residency, and were coming back for their children.    I prepared a lot of paperwork, including a letter signed by my employer which confirmed my employment, also previous tax returns, Anmeldungs,  health insurance certificate, bank statement, employment contracts past and present, and more. I had actually got new private health insurance, and finally settled old self-employed income taxes in preparation as well.    However none of this appeared to be necessary once at the Ausländerbehörde.  during my appointment last week the only thing which was requested was the completed residency application form, and my passport. I was called into the room twice within the space of about 15 minutes, and spent no more than 90 seconds in the room itself. First time in, my documents were requested. Second time in, I got my passport back with the permanent residency included. No questions asked. I had taken a native German friend to act as a translator, but this turned out to be unnecessary. The person I dealt with spoke English to me and had no problem or resistance doing so, though only a few words in total were ever exchanged. I suppose other workers there may not offer English, hard to say.   I do not know how much of the information and documents that I brought with me had already been checked online or with other relevant agencies before I arrived at the appointment. It's possible that the work I did with my taxes and new insurance plan had an influence, and that my residency and income had also been pre-checked. It's also possible that all the paperwork I brought was irrelevant, and that they would have given me permanent residency whether I had Anmeldung, insurance, etc or not.  I just can't say.  Maybe they just waved me through because I was the second appointment of the day and they were keen to avoid delays. My friend and I wore suits and were deliberately polite, which theoretically could also have had an influence. I just don't know.    overall the experience was Swift and efficient. The process went very well, there were no Surprises, and I was delighted to get my residency. There was no evidence of stress or chaos on the part of the authority, as has been suggested in the local Media. The impression I got was that this process was mostly a formality. There was no suggestion of an interview, and if you read the email or letter you got carefully, it refers to an invitation rather than any kind of examination.     I hope this account helps somebody, and wish anyone who is anxiously awaiting their appointment good luck.
  5. Can anyone offer any information about Hamburg offices. I will apply for my permit residency due to Brexit. Uk living in Germany since 2013. I am married to my husband who is Germany and we both live in Hamburg. I am self employed so my german skills in language are poor as i know the absolute basics. This worries me as it says you need adequate german skills to get the permit. I already have a permit got this when we got married in 2013 but i now need the permeant permit. I have private health insurance, i have a german driving licence , UK passport. Tax returns are join with my husband. Any info would help as i am really worried i wont be accepted.  
  6. Date And Time   Tue, 15 October 2019   18:00 – 20:30 CEST       Location   The Anglican Church of St Thomas Becket   Zeughausmarkt 22   20459 Hamburg     Ticket is mandatory - but no charge  
  7. Hi all,    Just for info: Just before brexit hits there are a slew of Q&A info events in cooperation with British embassy / German officials / British in Germany.   So if you've got a question, want to hold the CDU government or British govt to account, highlight and clarify process gaps, or just plain want further info on brexit uebergangsgesetz, or ueberleitungsgesetz, citizenship, resideny or anything brexit-related, this is probably the last organised chance to make your voice heard.   Berlin, 30 September. Düsseldorf, 1 October. Frankfurt, 10 October. Hamburg, 15 October. Munich, 24 October.
  8. Good day all,   I am a fellow British Citizen living and working in Berlin.   My reason for starting this topic will seem obvious and I was just wondering If anyone has the desire to enter a discussion and share thoughts, ideas, knowledge. I have spoken to the British Embassy in Berlin prior to Article 50 being signed but they had no idea what the next steps for "expats" until Article 50 would be signed. For example, what are the repercussions for British citizens that have been living and working in Berlin for several years in full time employment and have built a life here.   Before I moved abroad to Germany I was an avid watcher of the weekly TV program "Question Time" with David Dimbleby so I would say that has been my source of  staying tune with the goings on in the U.K politically.   Being honest I do not feel I have the most in depth knowledge of the reasons for the wanting to leave the EU.    I await your most welcome responses.   Kind regards   JA  
  9. I'm not sure if it's been commented on here, but the Bundestag has passed an amendment of the German Residence Act to take account of Brits living here in the (very likely) event of no-deal.    I believe the amendment still needs to go through the Bundesrat during September before it is all signed and sealed.    The original German text can be found here:   I read through it over the weekend and to get to grips with it a little deeper I ended up translating it, so I thought this might be of value to some people on here.    As stated, this is my own informal translation of the draft text and has no legal basis.   The relevant part is as follows:         Article 1   Amendment of the Residence Act [das Aufenthaltsgesetz] 1.    [...] A   After Section 101 the following Section 101a shall be inserted:       “101a   Transition of rights under the Freedom of Movement Act [das Freizügigkeitsgesetz]         (1)    British nationals and their family members who on the effective date of the exit of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland from the European Union have a right of permanent residence for the federal territory pursuant to Section 4a of the Act on the General Freedom of Movement for EU Citizens [das Gesetz über die allgemeine Freizügigkeit von Unionsbürgern] shall be granted a permanent settlement permit [Niederlassungserlaubnis] pursuant to Section 9. The prerequisites of Section 9 (2) numbers 1-3 as well as numbers 5-9 shall not apply.       (2)    British nationals and their family members who on the effective date of the exit of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland from the European Union have a right of residence for the federal territory pursuant to Section 2 or Section 3 of the Act on the General Freedom of Movement for EU Citizens and who fulfil the prerequisites for a residence title pursuant to Chapter 2, Part 3, 4 or 6 shall be granted a temporary residence permit [Aufenthaltserlaubnis] in accordance with these provisions.       (3)    British nationals and their family members who on the effective date of the exit of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland from the European Union have a right of residence for the federal territory pursuant to Section 2 or Section 3 of the Act on the General Freedom of Movement for EU Citizens, but who do not fulfil the prerequisites for a residence title pursuant to Chapter 2, Part 3, 4 or 6 or pursuant to (1), shall be granted a temporary residence permit pursuant to Section 7 (1) sentence 3. Section 5 (1) number 1 shall not apply. Section 5 (1) number 2 shall apply with the proviso that the prerequisites shall follow Section 2 (7) and Section 6 of the Act on the General Freedom of Movement for EU Citizens. The pursuance of an economic activity is to be allowed.       (4)    British nationals and their family members who on the effective date of the exit of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland from the European Union have a right of residence for the federal territory under the Act on the General Freedom of Movement for EU Citizens shall be issued upon applying for a residence title with a provisional residence document [Fiktionsbescheinigung] pursuant to Section 81 (4).       (5)  Section 7 (2) sentence 2 shall apply to the granting of residence titles pursuant to (1) and (3), while Section 7 (2) sentence 2 and Section 8 shall apply for the extending of residence permits pursuant to (3), with the proviso that the date of the granting or of the extension shall be the effective date of the exit of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland from the European Union.       (6)    British nationals are nationals of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland within the meaning of the New Declaration by the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland of 31 December 1982 on the definition of the term ‘nationals’ together with Declaration No. 63 annexed to the Final Act of the intergovernmental conference which adopted the Treaty of Lisbon.”       Article 2   Entry into force       (1)    This Act shall enter into force subject to paragraph 2 on the date on which the exit of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland from the European Union becomes effective, provided that no withdrawal agreement within the meaning of Article 50 (2) sentence 2 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union has entered into force by this date. The Federal Ministry of the Interior, Building and Community shall announce the date of the entry into force of this Act in the Federal Law Gazette. Should the exit have already have been implemented without a withdrawal agreement at the date of the promulgation of this Act, then this Act shall enter into force on the day after the promulgation.       (2)    Article 1 number 1 and number 2 shall enter into force on the day after the promulgation, though no earlier than [date of day following the day on which article 1 of the Skilled Workers Immigration Act enters into force].                
  10. Hi all,    fyi - Tomorrow there will be an online brexit Q&A direct with the British Embassy Germany (which is "meant" to represent Brits abroad...)   On Facebook at 13:00-14:00 tomorrow.   Start thinking up those questions :-)
  11. Some states and cities in Germany are now activating their brexit plans, updating their web pages, and sending out letters to those affected.   It doesn't make sense to make 1 thread per state. Nor does it make sense to mix this thread with the other brexit topics. So I started this thread to collect info on which states/cities are doing what - most info is pulled via and social media.   Berlin - website updated with info and FAQs.   Munich - website updated with info   Saxony - Landesamt sending out short questionnaire letters to brit residents. Website updated with info:   Feel free to update and I'll add to the list.
  12. Hello everyone,   I've asked on here before regarding S1 health insurance forms and eventually I was able to get mine sorted. However now that everything is up and running I expect the walls to come tumbling down again.   Firstly does anyone know if I am required to resubmit the S1 form annually? When I received the S1 certificate it did indeed have an expiry date for a year later, however I don't know if this is just an expiry to use the S1 form to sort out your insurance or if the subsequent insurance that you acquire will also expire on that date. For example I had an S1 certificate from the UK that expired at the beginning of April 2019. However I took that certificate to AOK and was issued with my AOK insurance card last year. The insurance card itself has no expiry date on it and instead has xxxxxx in the place where the expiry date would be (which to me implies no expiry). I was hoping someone here would know so I wouldn't have to go into AOK and ask or worse still find out I am not insured next time I am at the dentist.   The second part of my question relates to being a UK citizen living here in Germany and if anyone else is in a similar situation and knows the potential outcomes. I am married to a German citizen and have a freshly born German citizen son here. I've been here for just over four years and married for about one and a half. My work is still UK based (I am a sailor in the North Sea) and all my taxes are paid in the UK as I actually spend more time there per year than I do here. I have made absolutely no preparations, enquiries or precautions regarding Brexit whatsoever so was wondering if anyone had any knowledge on the following;   - What will happen to people like me with S1 health insurance after Brexit? - Is it possible that even with a wife and child here I could be deported? - Would I be eligible for German citizenship and what would that entail, could I get dual citizenship? - Is there anything I should be doing etc. in preparation for Brexit? - I fly in and out of the country on a monthly basis to the UK for work. Will I likely suddenly have visa issues?   Any help, advice or thoughts will be much appreciated! 
  13. Hello Toytowners,   As a Brit who arrived on 1 April 2014, I don’t qualify for 5 years’ residency till 2 days after Brexit. Luckily I have an appointment at the Ausländerbehörde in Kreis Viersen on 1 April.   I have loads of documentation prepared, in the hope that I can get a Niederlassungserlaubnis on that date.   My employer has offered to write me a letter saying that they have employed me for 3 years and that my job needs me as a native English speaker (a kind of Vorrangprüfung letter I guess). I said great, thanks, and then they asked me specifically what they should write.   I assumed just facts (employment dates, position, key responsibilities) and the need for English as well as German, but has anyone else had anything similar and should they include more information? What would an application letter to grant employment to a third-country national look like?   Thanks in advance!    Auntie Helen
  14. To everyone who has already become dual nationals, (DE + other country, or non-DE + non-DE) I have a quick question on how Germany determines this on paperwork:   On your rentenversicherung, sozialversicherung, taxes, jahresabrechnung, and many other items of paperwork from DE authorities, there is usually a listing of numbered codes / Kuerzel that correspond to nationality. E.g. 168  (British).   These codes are usually house-internal, so may not be the same for each authority/paperwork. The full listing of the codes is usually printed in fine-print on the reverse of the papers, or in accompanying explanation notes. There is usually only adequate space for holding a single code.   So how, and who gets to decide which of your nationality codes is listed on paperwork? Or is it just whichever nationality you held the earliest?    
  15. (copy/paste from FaceBook)   In cooperation with German partners and British in Germany e.V., the British Embassy Berlin will host an Open Afternoon on Tuesday 30th April 2019. This will be an opportunity for you to find out how the UK leaving the EU might affect your rights to live and work in Germany.    Economic Counsellor Rachel King will give an update on issues relating to citizens' rights and what this means for you after the UK leaves the EU. She will be joined by the Head of the Berlin Foreigners Authority (Ausländerbehörde) Engelhard Mazanke, who will explain the registration process in Berlin.   Following the introductions there will be an Info Fair, where you will be able to speak to representatives from key German authorities on pensions, health insurance, residency, naturalisation, studying and Erasmus, and working in Germany (participating organisations to be confirmed).    14:30 Doors open 15:00 Welcome addresses 15:30 Info Fair 17:00 Event closes   If you reserve a ticket but find yourself unable to attend, please let us know so that we can allocate the ticket to someone else. Please not that only registered guests can be permitted entry to the Embassy and photo ID is required.  Spaces are limited – please register on Eventbrite: