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About Ludwig13

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  1. I've had a very difficult time with my landlords for the three years living here. I can list the issues, but it's a mute point. Bottom line is, I've felt in the right in every situation but was always brushed off by them until they finally did fix the problems I was complaining about. Without a 100% guarantee that I could win anything against them, I chose not to battle. I am unable to work, my wife is the primary wage earner and we don't have the money to risk a loss. Therefore, for us, it was cheaper to pay the money then create an even more hostile environment with our landlords.  NO, I do not agree that we caved in to the demands and I had to discuss my frustrations to my wife, but we both decided that we would settle this as peacefully as possible and let the drama, irritation and hostility go. The camera is moved, the camera will never be in a visible position again and I have nothing to do with them unless it affects our apartment directly. As I said, there are still ongoing issues and concerns we have about things they are doing, but our voices fall on deaf ears. They will do nothing about the things they are doing for themselves at a non-monetary cost to us. (not going to discuss it here) We paid, it's over and I am looking forward to the day we can get moved and yes, it is in the works. We are just waiting. Thanks again and wow, this thread took some crazy turns at times, but it did help me with some direction and information.
  2. Both of our insurances said that I had intentionally broken the law by having my camera in the position it was in. By assumption, they did not want to pay for representation that I would lose the case and the costs would be deferred to them. It was irresponsible for me to have the camera where it was, but there was NO intention of using the camera where it was placed. I was rather pissed at the insurance for their denial.
  3. Court = €€€€€€€€€ Money I don't have to invest win or lose. Your words are appreciated, but I can't risk losing and having to pay fees and their fees should I lose. 600 bucks, lesson learned. As ridiculous as this is, I feel extremely violated, but again, I could have moved the camera when they came bitching. I didn't do that, so I blame myself. I'm not going to play victim when I played a substantial role in it's escalation and outcome. Thanks
  4. uh, after my wife talked to Frau Landlord, the agreement we came to was that we would pay the attorney fees to avoid court, the 1000 blackmail-hostage fee and keep the peace between us as renters and them as our landlord. She agreed to contact her atty and withdraw the complaint and the atty sent us the bill for services provided to FL. So yes, we will pay to keep the peace, but I question the amount. If you can tell me WHY I do not have to pay and can avoid further damages as well as a court appearance, feel free to represent me or provide evidence that I in fact will not be held liable by not paying. 
  5. Update #2 The bill from the attorney came today. The 1000 'fine' was dropped but the 5000 Gegenstandwert was still enforced and their request is we pay 1.6 of the 5000. Our bill is just over 585 Euros. CRAZY. My wife is going to talk to her attorney connection and see if this is reasonable or not.  I unprofessionally think this is an insane amount for receiving a ransom letter and then a completion letter.  I'll let you know how this goes. WOW....!!!
  6. Oh boy, do you know how much of a tease that is? jk...I'm eyeing a new camera for sure. Wife reminded me this morning that the fees will have to be paid and MAYBE in the fall next year we can consider it...but that means I have to be good and that's my struggle. Have a good rest of the week.
  7. My over all German Law Spidey Senses tell me this is not going to be an issue for the shops. Gray law standards are everywhere here. I am curious about what you hear from the shop owner how he/she avoids paranoid people from coming in and raging over having a recording device pointing at them. I'm also wondering how much drama was added to my experience since I am a tenant to the offended ones? Suppose my neighbor had a decorative camera in their window, would there have been such a stink or was I singled out because I'm more easily approachable? Anyway, DaringD, fill us in on what you find out about the shops and displays. I'm very curious about their answer. Feel free to share my experience if it becomes relevant. 
  8. Final Update: Wife went over to talk to Frau Landlord. Of course, FL had to rant on and on about how hard it is to make a decent wage at the beer garden and every customer counts...blah blah blah. My wife was quite tolerant and let the woman rant. When all was said and done, wife asks what FL is willing to settle for or should we pursue and atty and take this to court. FL said to pay for their lawyer visit and they'll drop everything else. So, maybe 2 to 3 hundred Euros for their atty's time.  Meanwhile, wife's boss' attorney calls us and says, ABSOLUTELY illegal to have a camera on display, functioning or not. If a person in any way feels their privacy is being violated, they have the right to complain. I'm too old for this crap. I'll pay the bill when it comes and be done with it.  I'm putting this experience behind me and I want to say a HUGE THANK YOU to everyone. If I had money to burn, I would take this to court just to see what a legal stand on something like this is. Since I'm an old unemployed hobby photographer, I have to settle with what the wife says since she earns the money.    Now would not be the time to ask Wife for a new camera 
  9. Hello readers, Last Saturday (4th July), I had been cleaning my DSLR camera at the kitchen table. Due to my disabling physical condition, sometimes a very simple task takes a couple of days. After completing the cleaning, I took the camera out to  our balcony and shot photos of the sky. I wanted a clear background to check the sensor cleanliness. I brought the camera  in and placed it on a tripod. Put a lens cover on it, removed the battery for charging and the SD card for viewing on the computer. The camera stayed in the dining room by the balcony door for the afternoon. Oh, btw, it was pointed toward the ground.  Our landlord happens to own a restaurant/beer garden across the street. Two of the daughters came to my door screaming at me to stop filming their guests. I was taken back by this...whoa. I said come in and look. The camera is off, has no battery or SD card and a lens cover. Besides, it's not even pointing toward your property. Two hours later, the police showed up. I showed them the camera and all the details of what  I had been doing. He told me it looked OK and left. They met the landlord below the balcony and I was listening to them talk. The police told them the camera was off, no card and not pointing at the property. Friday the 10th, I received a letter telling me to cease and desist my actions of filming. (The camera stayed there 7 days in the same position) I was told it is illegal to have a visible camera, working or not to be visibly pointed at another person or property. Not only did I get threatened to be evicted if I did not move the camera, but I was also fined 1,000 Euros and have to pay 1/3 of the attorney fees. Well, needless to say, I contacted our two insurance companies to get covered for attorney fees. Today, both insurance companies denied our claim. So, here we are. We have until the 25th  to send in a signed letter and payment or face court.  My question of you is, how is this possible when there was no intent of photographing people or property? I am quite aware of German law concerning the photography of people or places. I have over 4,000 photos of the town and area we live in, but not ONE single photo of any person.  What is my legal chance of putting this behind me with minimal costs? To me, this is absolutely ridiculous. It all started because I parked my car on the  street and they claimed I was taking business from them by not allowing a customer to park. They said I intimidated and cause angst in the  customers by having my camera where it was. Frau landlord told me she didn't even see the camera, but customers did. HELP!!